TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[I_Love_F16]

Why not putting L-UMTAS missile on TB2's for example ?

 

[TheInsider]

Why not putting L-UMTAS missile on TB2's for example ?

MAM-L does the same job and it is cheaper.

 

[comolokko]

on a british tv channel, they showed a unit price of about $10,000 for MAM ammunition. how close is this price to the actual cost price?

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[Yasar_TR]

on a british tv channel, they showed a unit price of about $10,000 for MAM ammunition. how close is this price to the actual cost price?

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Well, according to below site (I don’t know how dependable and accurate this site is) the selling price of a MAM-L missile is 25000 US dollars. MAM-C missile is 20000 US dollars. Cost price would be significantly lower. Also when weapons are sold as part of a package their price varies immensely.
A country in need of weapons will pay over the odds for a missile. Then again, if there is a political gain to be had, the same missiles can be sold for a very reasonable price, sometimes even at a loss.
As soon as guidance is involved, price of weapons start climbing up, in line with the level and quality of guidance involved. A couple of thousand dollar MK class aircraft bombs become 90thousand dollar bombs when they are attached to a JDAM kit. When we produce them as HGK, our cost price is around 27000 dollars. But the below site gives it’s list price as 55000 dollars.

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[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501115189365776385

The sinking of several hundred million dollar warships by guided artillery rocket. New roles for ROKETSAN's guided artillery rockets are now becoming a daily reality.

@Cabatli_53 @Test7 @Nilgiri @T-123456 @MisterLike @Zafer @TheInsider @Fuzuli NL @Yasar @Anmdt


What do you say guys

 

[Ryder]

Ukraine vs Russia have shown us once again the importance of precision guided bombs.

 

[Zafer]

It is all obvious how precision guidance is indispensable.
And we need longer and longer ranges.

 

[Yasar_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501115189365776385

The sinking of several hundred million dollar warships by guided artillery rocket. New roles for ROKETSAN's guided artillery rockets are now becoming a daily reality.

@Cabatli_53 @Test7 @Nilgiri @T-123456 @MisterLike @Zafer @TheInsider @Fuzuli NL @Yasar @Anmdt


What do you say guys

Although never confirmed officially, Bora 2 missile will be able to hit moving sea targets from a 4-500km range if the previous chatter on the subject is correct. @Cabatli_53 had shared a post in Pakistan Defence forum regarding this issue over a couple of years ago. Same type of seeker head applied to trg300 could do a similar job for smaller vessels. High supersonic terminal velocity of these missiles will have enough kinetic energy to devastate any sea vessel’s hull.

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[Merzifonlu]

What do you say guys

It is not certain that guided rockets were used. I think unguided rockets were used.

 

[Anmdt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501115189365776385

The sinking of several hundred million dollar warships by guided artillery rocket. New roles for ROKETSAN's guided artillery rockets are now becoming a daily reality.

@Cabatli_53 @Test7 @Nilgiri @T-123456 @MisterLike @Zafer @TheInsider @Fuzuli NL @Yasar @Anmdt


What do you say guys

They have managed to that with unguided legacy artillery rockets. Imagine what TR(L)G-230 with or without tactical drones would do.

Or Applies vice-versa, if Russians had a proper tactical drone up around their ships and monitoring the coastal area, they could easily use GPS or SAL guided artillery rockets from their amphibious ships and eliminating the possible threats even without risking the drone

 

[Bogeyman]

They have managed to that with unguided legacy artillery rockets. Imagine what TR(L)G-230 with or without tactical drones would do.

Or Applies vice-versa, if Russians had a proper tactical drone up around their ships and monitoring the coastal area, they could easily use GPS or SAL guided artillery rockets from their amphibious ships and eliminating the possible threats even without risking the drone

With TRG-300 Kaplan missiles + BIHAs or Bayraktar TB-2, we will take the entire Aegean Sea under control. We shoot down ships in Israeli territorial waters via Cyprus. I may be misremembering the range of the TRG-300 Kaplan missiles. I fixed it.

 

[Anmdt]

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With TRG-300 Kaplan missiles + BIHAs or Bayraktar TB-2, we will take the entire Aegean Sea under control. We shoot down ships in Israeli territorial waters via Cyprus.

That is Bora with 279.99 km range, Kaplan is less ~120 km. Although Kaplan doesn't have SAL guidance on paper but there were images of the integration.
The good feature these missile can be equipped with proximity fuse to detonate slightly above the surface, would damage the ship or equipment even if it is not a direct hit.

 

[Bogeyman]

That is Bora with 279.99 km range, Kaplan is less ~120 km. Although Kaplan doesn't have SAL guidance on paper but there were images of the integration.
The good feature these missile can be equipped with proximity fuse to detonate slightly above the surface, would damage the ship or equipment even if it is not a direct hit.

For TCG Anadolu, this projection creates a force multiplier effect.

 

[Yasar_TR]

That is Bora with 279.99 km range, Kaplan is less ~120 km. Although Kaplan doesn't have SAL guidance on paper but there were images of the integration.
The good feature these missile can be equipped with proximity fuse to detonate slightly above the surface, would damage the ship or equipment even if it is not a direct hit.

TRG300 missile if fired from air will have a much longer range. If the missile doesn’t have to overcome the gravity’s pull and initial speed gain, it will go much longer.
But you are correct , depending on the TRG300’s version, it’s range varies between 90km and 120km if fired from surface.

 

[Manomed]

TRG300 missile if fired from air will have a much longer range. If the missile doesn’t have to overcome the gravity’s pull and initial speed gain, it will go much longer.
But you are correct , depending on the TRG300’s version, it’s range varies between 90km and 120km if fired from surface.

Is there any plans for air launched TRG-300? @T-123456 @Yasar

 

[TR_123456]

Is there any plans for air launched TRG-300? @T-123456 @Yasar

How feasible would it be you think?
Dont we have better options already?

 

[Manomed]

How feasible would it be you think?
Dont we have better options already?

Idk just asking yasar was talking about air launched trg missiles.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Is there any plans for air launched TRG-300? @T-123456 @Yasar

Israel has got it. It is called “rampage” .
Artillery rockets are intrinsically cheap weapons. But as soon as you start adding guidance on them, their price start going up. Israel, uses a guidance for stationary land targets. That keeps prices at check to a certain degree. But if you want to hit moving targets, then you will need IIR or laser guidance which is expensive.
Israel uses 4 of these from f16 jets and fires them at high speed from 30-40000ft. You get a supersonic air to ground guided missile for a fairly cheap price that goes over 150km, most likely double this distance. Because of their high speed they are very difficult to intercept.
Currently we don’t have supersonic air to ground missiles. These would fill in that slot. I don’t know why we have not chosen to go this route? It beats me!

Israel Turns Artillery Rocket Into Supersonic 'Rampage' Air-Launched Stand-Off Weapon

The manufacturer says it's a cheaper alternative to other longer-range aerial weapons that will work with almost any jet combat aircraft.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Manomed]

Israel has got it. It is called “rampage” .
Artillery rockets are intrinsically cheap weapons. But as soon as you start adding guidance on them, their price start going up. Israel, uses a guidance for stationary land targets. That keeps prices at check to a certain degree. But if you want to hit moving targets, then you will need IIR or laser guidance which is expensive.
Israel uses 4 of these from f16 jets and fires them at high speed from 30-40000ft. You get a supersonic air to ground guided missile for a fairly cheap price that goes over 150km, most likely double this distance. Because of their high speed they are very difficult to intercept.
Currently we don’t have supersonic air to ground missiles. These would fill in that slot. I don’t know why we have not chosen to go this route? It beats me!

Israel Turns Artillery Rocket Into Supersonic 'Rampage' Air-Launched Stand-Off Weapon

The manufacturer says it's a cheaper alternative to other longer-range aerial weapons that will work with almost any jet combat aircraft.

www.thedrive.com

Thats smart @500

 

[Heartbang]

Is there any plans for air launched TRG-300? @T-123456 @Yasar

@TheInsider ?