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Yes, there is but TRLG-230 is higher on the priority list.
Probably no maybe a teaser. The project is in an advanced phase and surely some info or demonstration can be released but 2023 will be a monumental year for the defense industry and companies want to press the hold button to release everything at once for a shock effect in 2023. "Dozens" of projects will be showcased in 2023 some of the projects that never confirmed officially some other projects we only saw a slight teaser or only mentioned verbally in some reviews.@TheInsider any news about Roketsan NLOS missile? Can we see it till the end of this year?
Mate there is new high tech trend.@Yasar, @TheInsider
- Any news when can we expect tripod mounted and shoulder fire sungur ?
- Can you clarify Umtas / Mızrak classification and whats are their direct US equivalent's ?
The plan is that the Sungur will be joining the inventory this year. (I thought ATAS is the acronym for Air To Air Stinger)@Yasar, @TheInsider
- Any news when can we expect tripod mounted and shoulder fire sungur ?
- Can you clarify Umtas / Mızrak classification and what are their direct US equivalent's ?
UMTAS should be subsonic. From a previous launch it’s more like 0.5 Mach.The plan is that the Sungur will be joining the inventory this year. (I thought ATAS is the acronym for Air To Air Stinger)
There is work being carried out to increase Sungur’s effective range and altitude. So there may be a Sungur-ER to come yet.
As per @TheInsider has explained Mizrak/Umtas is similar to Hellfire of US. But with recent modifications our Umtas now has a range of 16km.Turkey to Deploy SUNGUR Air Defence Missile in 2022
The SUNGUR Air Defence Missile developed by Turkey’s defence giant Roketsan will be made available to the Turkish Armed Forces this year.www.turkishdefencenews.com
Both missiles have speeds over 2mach. So they are difficult to intercept.
Umtas has RF two way data link guidance.
Sungur has IIR guidance for precision strikes.
My logic was that Umtas was produced as a Turkish replacement of US’s Hellfire, which is a 2 Mach missile, ours should be of the same ilk.UMTAS should be subsonic. From a previous launch it’s more like 0.5 Mach.
Yes, the UMTAS missile is on the slower side but it is intentional. It is done for the operator to assess the situation and switch targets if necessary with the 2-way datalink. The missile was advertised as an 8km missile but even in the earlier batches, it was able to hit a target 10.5km away(info comes directly from a person who hit the trigger of the missile in person). IMHO production development studies, further optimizations, and better gliding algorithms from the MAM-L probably applied to the UMTAS. That is how the range is possibly extended to 16km in a curved flying route.UMTAS should be subsonic. From a previous launch it’s more like 0.5 Mach.
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I wonder if they changed the missile for 16km or if it was already capable of that distance from the start with a curved trajectory.
They have introduced an improved propellant, this is obvious.UMTAS should be subsonic. From a previous launch it’s more like 0.5 Mach.
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On the left there is a time and distance counter.
I wonder if they changed the missile for 16km or if it was already capable of that distance from the start with a curved trajectory.
Nope. My guesstimate is 10k feet with a 6km glide path to the target.@TheInsider do you have any info the altitude of Umtas during curved flying?
It should be high-subsonic. (0.8 to 0.9 mach if i remember correctly from some open sources).My logic was that Umtas was produced as a Turkish replacement of US’s Hellfire, which is a 2 Mach missile, ours should be of the same ilk.
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Both UMTAS variants are analogous to the AGM-114 Hellfire whose use on fixed wing aircraft and helicopters shaped the Middle East’s history for three decades running.
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Turkish Anti-Tank Missiles Are Extremely Sophisticated
The OMTAS is an ATGM with alternating guidance options. Via Roketsan. With the exception of the United States no other NATO ally is advancing its military-industrial sector as fast as Turkey. At th…21stcenturyasianarmsrace.comBoth Umtas and Omtas use a dual thrust rocket engine. These engines are synonymous with carrying missiles with Mach speeds.OMTAS Anti-tank Guided Missile (ATGM) - MilitaryLeak.COM
The Roketsan OMTAS (Mizrak-O) manufactured by Roketsan is the first 160mm-calibre manportable/vehicle-mounted medium-range anti-tank guided missile (ATGM)militaryleak.com