India Coffee House

[Joe Shearer]

Instead of pointing out faults in our judiciary if they exist ,

Incidentally, in Indian law, you are allowed to criticise a judgement, but not the judge.

 

[Lonewolf]

Contribute how? Do you want to line them up and flog them? Stupid, isn't it?

So when you make a statement, you have to take the trouble of making it precise. Do you want them to contribute in the normal course, like every other citizen?

That will be by getting a fewer number of 'open' seats, for which they can compete happily; that will be by subsidising the education of the lower castes, and of needy Muslims, from the taxes collected,

Is there any other method you have in mind? If it is this, it is being done already.

Giving up all scholarship benefits and asking them to be shifted towards lower caste people

 

[Lonewolf]

Please don't be vague. How do you define radicalisation?

Again, calling someone a radical means nothing. What is it that is objectionable?

If he is arrested, arraigned and tried, and found guilty, he is a rapist. How can he not be guilty?

If he is somebody you believe is a rapist, before arrest, arraignment, trial or judgement, then it is your personal opinion, and if you utter it in public, you are guilty of a crime, and may be arrested, arraigned, tried and sentenced.

Two things - some parts of the constitution are beyond the power of the legislature to alter.

For other parts, the legislature can alter the constitution and has done so in the past. Until that amendment happens, what the constitution says IS the law.

Contribute how? Do you want to line them up and flog them? Stupid, isn't it?

So when you make a statement, you have to take the trouble of making it precise. Do you want them to contribute in the normal course, like every other citizen?

That will be by getting a fewer number of 'open' seats, for which they can compete happily; that will be by subsidising the education of the lower castes, and of needy Muslims, from the taxes collected,

Is there any other method you have in mind? If it is this, it is being done already.

All these blasphemy and taking law in hand should be removed , file FIR if you got issues , case in point mallapuram Christians , many hindus , etc .

Population is getting out of hand , stop polygamy or make it bi directional if you think it's associated with your religion . Making bi directional will ensure its downfall as society in majorly patriarchal and will chose to give up polygamy then giving women equal rights in this .

 

[Joe Shearer]

Giving up all scholarship benefits and asking them to be shifted towards lower caste people

You did not answer this the last time the question was asked, and again, you seem to be under the impression that there is a Muslim quota. Are you aware that the so-called Muslim quota in general institutions is a quota for poor Muslims?

Do you at all realise that lower caste people are generally poor? Or do you want to bring in one more layer of bureaucracy and certificates to be forged and bribes paid against those forgeries?

There is a Muslim-hating theme in your posts that is disturbing.

It has been converted into a hatred of radicalised international terrorists from the ISIS and other extremist organisations, but it is not clear why the less than a tiny handful who are convinced by the ISIS theology are being used to bully the rest.

 

[Joe Shearer]

All these blasphemy and taking law in hand should be removed , file FIR if you got issues , case in point mallapuram Christians , many hindus , etc .

Blasphemy laws are operative in Pakistan, and not in India.

 

[Lonewolf]

Blasphemy laws are operative in Pakistan, and not in India.

Legally no , but fatwa and all , yup pretty much working

 

[Joe Shearer]

stop polygamy

This is one of the illiterate tropes from the social media universe.

It is especially popular among particularly stupid non-Muslims, who believe that the Muslim population rises faster because of polygamy.

If they were educated and literate, they would know that birthrates are calculated on the basis of women; it is a woman's birthrate that is measured, not that of a family of a husband and several wives. Anybody who stops to think for a moment will realise that whether a woman is married to a man with several other spouses or just herself as a single spouse, the birthrate will continue to be the same; it will be measured on her. It is not possible to increase a community's birthrate through controlling polygamy.

It is also a good idea to look at the current demographic studies. It will come as a shock to those who think Hindus will soon become a minority.

 

[Lonewolf]

You did not answer this the last time the question was asked, and again, you seem to be under the impression that there is a Muslim quota. Are you aware that the so-called Muslim quota in general institutions is a quota for poor Muslims?

Do you at all realise that lower caste people are generally poor? Or do you want to bring in one more layer of bureaucracy and certificates to be forged and bribes paid against those forgeries?

There is a Muslim-hating theme in your posts that is disturbing.

It has been converted into a hatred of radicalised international terrorists from the ISIS and other extremist organisations, but it is not clear why the less than a tiny handful who are convinced by the ISIS theology are being used to bully the rest.

Why even poor muslim get the quota , poor upper caste Hindus didn't got it for 70 years , atleast strip them of this quota for next 70 years

 

[Joe Shearer]

Legally no , but fatwa and all , yup pretty much working

So what do you do if you hear of a fatwa? File an FIR?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Why even poor muslim get the quota , poor upper caste Hindus didn't got it for 70 years , atleast strip them of this quota for next 70 years

It is because poor Muslims are behind the population averages due to lack of education. Please read the Rajinder Sachar Commission Report.

 

[Lonewolf]

This is one of the illiterate tropes from the social media universe.

It is especially popular among particularly stupid non-Muslims, who believe that the Muslim population rises faster because of polygamy.

If they were educated and literate, they would know that birthrates are calculated on the basis of women; it is a woman's birthrate that is measured, not that of a family of a husband and several wives. Anybody who stops to think for a moment will realise that whether a woman is married to a man with several other spouses or just herself as a single spouse, the birthrate will continue to be the same; it will be measured on her. It is not possible to increase a community's birthrate through controlling polygamy.

It is also a good idea to look at the current demographic studies. It will come as a shock to those who think Hindus will soon become a minority.

For your Little brain , this argument hold true only if muslim man marry muslim women , if this is to be hold true , you have to stop muslim men marrying in other communities , in turn you end up supporting those love -jihad laws . So joe do you support those love jihad laws ?? Answer that you should give in short

 

[Joe Shearer]

Why even poor muslim get the quota , poor upper caste Hindus didn't got it for 70 years , atleast strip them of this quota for next 70 years

Isn't it better to expand educational opportunities, rather than compete to decrease the opportunities for poor people?

 

[Lonewolf]

So what do you do if you hear of a fatwa? File an FIR?

If it's against the law then should be done and the culprit should be arrested if it's unlawful

 

[Joe Shearer]

For your Little brain , this argument hold true only if muslim man marry muslim women , if this is to be hold true , you have to stop muslim men marrying in other communities , in turn you end up supporting those love -jihad laws . So joe do you support those love jihad laws ?? Answer that you should give in short

Don't be a fool. A woman will remain the measure for reproductive rate. And forget about that Sanghi propaganda about love jihad.

 

[Lonewolf]

Isn't it better to expand educational opportunities, rather than compete to decrease the opportunities for poor people?

You need funds , explain where you will get it from ?

 

[Joe Shearer]

If it's against the law then should be done and the culprit should be arrested if it's unlawful

Right.

So can we get rid of this point of the master plan?

 

[Joe Shearer]

You need funds , explain where you will get it from ?

Where do governments get funds? From a heavenly chariot that comes down every Tuesday?

 

[Lonewolf]

Don't be a fool. A woman will remain the measure for reproductive rate. And forget about that Sanghi propaganda about love jihad.

Yes a woman will remain but if number of woman increase in community by religious conversion , won't it increase birth rate ?

And for your info , muslim women Do have more children compared to a Hindu women , isn't it a exploitation of females

 

[Lonewolf]

Right.

So can we get rid of this point of the master plan?

No why ? If you don't support those fatwa calling for murder of someone , it should be a issue to be raked up and you should also raise concern

 

[Lonewolf]

Where do governments get funds? From a heavenly chariot that comes down every Tuesday?

From taxes , but we are already in budget deficit , you want to increase our deficit ??? Are you that worse at economics