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The majority of Greeks are Vlahians in reality. Most of the real Greeks become Muslims a long time ago. I think some of their so called national liberators hardly spoke Greek language. Serbs are nothing but western Bulgarians.
Most of the modern Greeks are just Bulgarians or slavs not related to Ancient greece at all
 
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Fun fact this war also has a racial component to it.

Belarus and Ukraine are seen as pure countries according to racist white supremacists while white supremacists usually saw Russians being tainted by Asian blood due to its Turkic and Mongol history.

Expansion into Asia brought lots of Asian peoples into Russia who mixed with local Russians.

Words like Horde or even Orcs are used against Russians. Figure out who used those words against somebody
Ukrainian historians considered Muscovy a legacy of the Golden Horde. Because the great-grandfather of the Moscow line of Rurikovich, Alexander Nevsky, voluntarily submitted to the grandson of Genghis Khan, Batu Khan. The heirs of Genghis Khan considered Moscow vassals for 300 years.
Ukrainian princes resisted. Kyiv was destroyed by the Mongols. Then the lands of Ukraine and Belarus were conquered by the Lithuanians, who created the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which laid claim to the whole of Russia. Then they entered into a dynastic union with Poland and united in the Commonwealth.
Then a movement arose in Ukraine, trying to secede from Poland, which was called the Zaporozhian Sich.

In the book of Tolkien, who wrote the book "The Lord of the Rings", the orcs are the creations of Sauron, who from normal people created monster slaves as a result of a cruel experiment, which turned into soldiers. Apparently they have a synonym for Russian-orc as the heirs of the Horde, the eternal slaves of the dictator, who do not love freedom, militarists, racists.
 

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Ukrainian historians considered Muscovy a legacy of the Golden Horde. Because the great-grandfather of the Moscow line of Rurikovich, Alexander Nevsky, voluntarily submitted to the grandson of Genghis Khan, Batu Khan. The heirs of Genghis Khan considered Moscow vassals for 300 years.
Ukrainian princes resisted. Kyiv was destroyed by the Mongols. Then the lands of Ukraine and Belarus were conquered by the Lithuanians, who created the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which laid claim to the whole of Russia. Then they entered into a dynastic union with Poland and united in the Commonwealth.
Then a movement arose in Ukraine, trying to secede from Poland, which was called the Zaporozhian Sich.

In the book of Tolkien, who wrote the book "The Lord of the Rings", the orcs are the creations of Sauron, who from normal people created monster slaves as a result of a cruel experiment, which turned into soldiers. Apparently they have a synonym for Russian-orc as the heirs of the Horde, the eternal slaves of the dictator, who do not love freedom, militarists, racists.

You had Tatars and Turks who lived in Belarus and Ukraine for centuries.

Whole racial thing is not black and white as nobody is pure.

Its interesting to see how Turkic history plays a role in the history of Russia.

In ww1 the Ottoman army even faced Turkic soldiers serving the Imperial Russian army. But Ottoman prisoners of war were also helped by the various Turkic peoples.

You had Tatars who helped Ottoman prisoners of war back to their lands. Some made it in time for the Turkish independance war some joined the Basmachi revolt while some fought in the white and red armies of the Russian civil war.
 
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You had Tatars and Turks who lived in Belarus and Ukraine for centuries.

Whole racial thing is not black and white as nobody is pure.

Its interesting to see how Turkic history plays a role in the history of Russia.

In ww1 the Ottoman army even faced Turkic soldiers serving the Imperial Russian army. But Ottoman prisoners of war were also helped by the various Turkic peoples.

You had Tatars who helped Ottoman prisoners of war back to their lands. Some made it in time for the Turkish independance war some joined the Basmachi revolt while some fought in the white and red armies of the Russian civil war.
nykus is a Saka Turk btw
 

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Everyone was in full shock that Putin will go full crazy invading Ukraine.
But not me.. As I heard Biden talks it was like inviting Putin to attack.. I thought wtf is that true what he is babbling... But I lacked some wisdom.. If you have all this technology and can observe from space

Than you will see how much troops there are what they do from support lines to training and preparing...

Nato or just USA wanted Russia to attack ukrain see how all bad talked turkey for sending weapons how Germans did only wanted to send helms and all going steps back and doing the scared cat moves..

A Nato trap for Putin.. I bet USA is and was aware long before Syria that Russian army is a joke.. Syria gave them only the evidence.. They took their opportunity and planed their plan well..

And that suddenly Ukrainians are well trained even if you count into the years of experience with separatists this cannot come from only them.. In the background Nato is heavily involved and I bet thousand of soilders have been trained by nato... Including all higher ranked soilders

Also I would say that there must be direkt nato planning in the defence with all the input from nato infrastructure


As said I without spying sattelites and without think tanks knew that something is wrong and coming up the talk was talked Biden litarally said if you attack we won't respond Putin..
 

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And that suddenly Ukrainians are well trained even if you count into the years of experience with separatists this cannot come from only them.. In the background Nato is heavily involved and I bet thousand of soilders have been trained by nato... Including all higher ranked soilders

Also I would say that there must be direkt nato planning in the defence with all the input from nato infrastructure


As said I without spying sattelites and without think tanks knew that something is wrong and coming up the talk was talked Biden litarally said if you attack we won't respond Putin..
This.

When I read that the Russian ship in Berdyansk was identified and destroyed as a result of appearing in a 'propaganda video', I thought, bull-shite. The timing and impact of the attack could have only been a result of good quality intelligence that was given to the Ukrainians.
 

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The destruction of the Buk air defense system of the armed forces of Ukraine by the Russian operational-tactical complex Iskander. The Iskander missile attack was carried out after receiving intelligence data from a Russian UAV patrolling an area in the Kiev region.


The army of Ukraine, actively withdrawing, mines fields and farmland, thereby endangering people's lives and jeopardizing the sowing campaign in Ukraine. More than 12,000 munitions have already been defused in the Kherson region alone. Everyday life of Russian sappers of engineering troops in Ukraine


 

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You had Tatars and Turks who lived in Belarus and Ukraine for centuries.

Whole racial thing is not black and white as nobody is pure.

Its interesting to see how Turkic history plays a role in the history of Russia.

In ww1 the Ottoman army even faced Turkic soldiers serving the Imperial Russian army. But Ottoman prisoners of war were also helped by the various Turkic peoples.

You had Tatars who helped Ottoman prisoners of war back to their lands. Some made it in time for the Turkish independance war some joined the Basmachi revolt while some fought in the white and red armies of the Russian civil war.
Russians have almost always been racists, with the exception of Soviet times, and even then because the Constitution of the USSR was written by Jewish revolutionaries. However, even in Soviet times it was forbidden to study Turkic history. I spoke about a historian who wrote Turkic history. His name is Gumilyov, in Kazakhstan the university bears his name. He was alone against the entire pro-government structure of racist historians, he was in prison for a long time, and his father was shot.
Now the political culture has degraded even more. 70% of Russians support the war in Ukraine. Those who are not supported by Putin were declared national traitors.

They are used to praising themselves and belittling other peoples, so the fact that they made a mistake in Ukraine is a regularity. They thought that it would be like in Afghanistan, that the pro-Western power structures would flee when they suddenly appeared. They did not take into account the national factor. Ukrainians are characterized by great love, a desire for freedom. This was expressed in the fact that the Zaporizhzhya Sich was not a tyranny, but their head was elected at a general meeting. Also during the Civil War in Ukraine, the anarchist Makhno was popular. What did the anarchists say? They said that any state is evil, that all people are equal.

27 years ago, the first president of Chechnya, Dzhokhar Dudayev, said that "Ukraine would go to war with Russia, and Russian pan-Slavism would reach a dead end. He said that now no one wants to be in an alliance with Russia, not only militarily, but also economically, politically and even commercially, because they have studied it well. Russia is essentially a racketeer. Here she is, with threats, tanks, armadas, knocking out money for herself. Now he is threatening to give nuclear technology to Iran".

 
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You had Tatars and Turks who lived in Belarus and Ukraine for centuries.

Whole racial thing is not black and white as nobody is pure.

Its interesting to see how Turkic history plays a role in the history of Russia.

In ww1 the Ottoman army even faced Turkic soldiers serving the Imperial Russian army. But Ottoman prisoners of war were also helped by the various Turkic peoples.

You had Tatars who helped Ottoman prisoners of war back to their lands. Some made it in time for the Turkish independance war some joined the Basmachi revolt while some fought in the white and red armies of the Russian civil war.

Turkic history in Crimea predates the Mongols.

5th/6th century Gokturks.
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Obviously Atilla predates this too.

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The Viking Rus came later and were soon kicked out by Cuman Turks.

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