Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Vergennes]

Damn a real massacre.

Spoiler: graphic

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1510284786002280451

 

[GoatsMilk]

And a few words to those so-called nationalist farts crying out for revenge (in Syria, etc.), and laughing their asses off to Russia’s humiliation;

Do not forget, that you have to live with Russia in this neighborhood, whether you like it or not. And your future is rather entangled by a messed up relationship. A humiliated, bitter Russia means only one thing for this country, and that is disaster. You will need to go ways before you expose your balls!

Go out, get a life

stop being a little baby.

 

[legionairre]

nah i'm just not going to buy this disaster/humiliation is all part of the plan. Only Russians seem to have an army that wants to show every failure as a success. I still remember all the Turkish drone excuses over Syria.

Before Syria Russians had the best air defence systems, the pantsir was hailed as best of its class. Each time Turkish drones out done it, whether it was syria, libya or azerbaijan an army of bots found excuses to defend its failure. Same will happen after this war too in Ukraine.

On balance on everything thats happened, this Ukraine adventure has been an absolute disaster that may just get worse for Russia yet.

You are right, it may get worse for Russia in this conflict, but I am trying to look from the outside, and I feel no obligation to convince anyone.
EDIT:Then again you are the man to decide!

 

[GoatsMilk]

Don’t you think these words are a little too strong for a lovely litle goat?

Its just when people make silly comments but then have the cheek to tell others "to get a life". It comes a cross as really dumb. Its ok for Putin and Russia to lose.

Also nothing outside the box as selling Russian failure as a success, they been doing that for a long time now.

 

[McCool]

Trying not to be premature but war is clearly tilting in Ukraine's favor.

-Kiev and Chernihiv are cleansed from Russian presence
-Odessa invasion cancelled
-Russian forces kicked out of Mykolaiv
-Russian forces are in retreat in Sumy
-Kharkiv also seen multiple advance by UA
-UA are closing in on Kherson

With the exception of maybe Mariupol, Russia are in setback almost eveywhere.

If this continues Ukraine might have the option to transfer bulk of their troops East towards Kharkiv or Donbass.

I say keep the weapons supplies steady while Ukraine demand the total retreat of Russians back to pre 23 Feb borders and if they reject war must endure until Russia is sufficiently demilitarized via battlefield losses.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Trying not to be premature but war is clearly tilting in Ukraine's favor.

-Kiev and Chernihiv are cleansed from Russian presence
-Odessa invasion cancelled
-Russian forces kicked out of Mykolaiv
-Russian forces are in retreat in Sumy
-Kharkiv also seen multiple advance by UA
-UA are closing in on Kherson

With the exception of maybe Mariupol, Russia are in setback almost eveywhere.

If this continues Ukraine might have the option to transfer bulk of their troops East towards Kharkiv or Donbass.

I say keep the weapons supplies steady while Ukraine demand the total retreat of Russians back to pre 23 Feb borders and if they reject war must endure until Russia is sufficiently demilitarized via battlefield losses.

Its very possible when all is said and done that Russia is removed from most if not all of Ukraine. The bar has been set so low by Russia that almost anything is possible now.

Once those anti ship missiles arrive in Ukraine, then it gets really interesting because those Russian navel units will be open targets.

 

[McCool]

Ukraine most advanced tank the Oplot T-84

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1510282214533124098

 

[Xenon54]

And a few words to those so-called nationalist farts crying out for revenge (in Syria, etc.), and laughing their asses off to Russia’s humiliation;

Do not forget, that you have to live with Russia in this neighborhood, whether you like it or not. And your future is rather entangled by a messed up relationship. A humiliated, bitter Russia means only one thing for this country, and that is disaster. You will need to go ways before you expose your balls!

Go out, get a life

Yeah because Turco-Russian relations were always amazing up until Ukraine right?

 

[legionairre]

Its just when people make silly comments but then have the cheek to tell others "to get a life". It comes a cross as really dumb. Its ok for Putin and Russia to lose.

Also nothing outside the box as selling Russian failure as a success, they been doing that for a long time now.

If you are looking for someone selling Russia’s failure as success, it is definitely not me. This is just a call for common sense, for those asking for an immediate payback. I am nowhere near supporting Russia’s claim, nor a believer in her cause. But I find it reckless to go for any action, at the moment, to bring the hell loose on our cause.

 

[Madokafc]

Trying not to be premature but war is clearly tilting in Ukraine's favor.

-Kiev and Chernihiv are cleansed from Russian presence
-Odessa invasion cancelled
-Russian forces kicked out of Mykolaiv
-Russian forces are in retreat in Sumy
-Kharkiv also seen multiple advance by UA
-UA are closing in on Kherson

With the exception of maybe Mariupol, Russia are in setback almost eveywhere.

If this continues Ukraine might have the option to transfer bulk of their troops East towards Kharkiv or Donbass.

I say keep the weapons supplies steady while Ukraine demand the total retreat of Russians back to pre 23 Feb borders and if they reject war must endure until Russia is sufficiently demilitarized via battlefield losses.

Ukraine need a strong resolution to take back every inches of their land, including Crimea and Donbas. After that they can started to negotiated about peace condition against Russia, as Russia need to paid war reparations, send the war criminal to be tried at the Haag and so on.

 

[Xenon54]

Trench of russian was busted by Ukraine army.............
You can see what russian orcs looters bring there.........................after killing civilians and take thier home furniture and bring it to russian trench

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1510278827435597827

Why are they folowing the decades old doctrine? What use do trenches have when you have no air superiority?
Reminds me on pkk tactics in syria and iraq.

 

[legionairre]

Yeah because Turco-Russian relations were always amazing up until Ukraine right?

I have claimed just the opposite, and offered to refrain from any action that would break the hell loose!

 

[GoatsMilk]

If you are looking for someone selling Russia’s failure as success, it is definitely not me. This is just a call for common sense, for those asking for an immediate payback. I am nowhere near supporting Russia’s claim, nor a believer in her cause. But I find it reckless to go for any action, at the moment, to bring the hell loose on our cause.

Trying to sell this failure as Putins intention just comes across as nonsense considering everything that's transpired. As immediate payback, i've not seen it said. But technically sending drones and potentially operators to Ukraine is payback. Sending constant ammunition to those drones and reports of other equipment being sent is also technically payback. And if any nation deserves payback its Russia.

If you remember Russia even threatened Turkey not to sell Ukraine drones, the same Russia that even sent free weapons to all our enemies.

Nah its best kick a mad dog when its down, otherwise when its back to its feet it will bite you.

When dealing with the bully, you can't operate what if. You have to anticipate what he will do and actively counter it. If we are worried about Russia nuking Turkey, the solution isnt to bow our heads, the solution is to get our own nuclear deterrent.

 

[legionairre]

Trying to sell this failure as Putins intention just comes across as nonsense considering everything that's transpired. As immediate payback, i've not seen it said. But technically sending drones and potentially operators to Ukraine is payback. Sending constant ammunition to those drones and reports of other equipment being sent is also technically payback. And if any nation deserves payback its Russia.

If you remember Russia even threatened Turkey not to sell Ukraine drones, the same Russia that even sent free weapons to all our enemies.

Nah its best kick a mad dog when its down, otherwise when its back to its feet it will bite you.

When dealing with the bully, you can't operate what if. You have to anticipate what he will do and actively counter it. If we are worried about Russia nuking Turkey, the solution isnt to bow our hides down, the solution is to get our own nuclear deterrent.

I will be with you on this!

 

[Xenon54]

I have claimed just the opposite, and offered to refrain from any action that would break the hell loose!

Turkey is doing good in making the life harder for Russians, wherever you look you see Russians working against Turkish interests.

-Caucasus
-Central Asia
-Syria
-Libya
-Balkan
-Black sea

Basically everywhere, this is a golden opportunity for Turkey to really hurt Russia with minimal effort, I hope we will also send Artillery to Ukraine, would be a nice pair with the TB2's.
Be sure the Russians would also not show any mercy towards Turkey given the opportunity, the phrase ''sick man of europe'' was said by a Russian tsar btw.

 

[Ecderha]

Why are they folowing the decades old doctrine? What use do trenches have when you have no air superiority?
Reminds me on pkk tactics in syria and iraq.

do not look for any logic...............there is non...........russian orcs decide to go own way............ this is thier culture....... search for civilians ...... rape,kill,loot and then show this to outsider...........
If you do not understand this till now there is nothing more to be said............ This is russian reality.......
russian soldiers showed....... showing.......and you bet they will keep showing that they are savagers=orcs............
they still think that they are doing right thing!!!!

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1510311091712233476

 

[Ecderha]

During the liberation of the village in Chernihiv region...................Ukraine military visited his Parents.............His Parents who spent a month under russian occupation.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509950179822247940

 

[legionairre]

Turkey is doing good in making the life harder for Russians, wherever you look you see Russians working against Turkish interests.

-Caucasus
-Central Asia
-Syria
-Libya
-Balkan
-Black sea

Basically everywhere, this is a golden opportunity for Turkey to really hurt Russia with minimal effort, I hope we will also send Artillery to Ukraine, would be a nice pair with the TB2's.
Be sure the Russians would also not show any mercy towards Turkey given the opportunity, the phrase ''sick man of europe'' was said by a Russian tsar btw.

That is exactly the question; do we really want to hurt the Bear now, and she becomes all the more aggressive? Or do we simply sail out to our target avoiding any situation we face a wounded bear that could harm us real bad! It is not about whether or not we are willing to fight the Bear, if necessary…
EDIT: You know, as much as any of us, that we will take the fight to their doorsteps…

 

[goldsilver]

That is exactly the question; do we really want to hurt the Bear now, and she becomes all the more aggressive? Or do we simply sail out to our target avoiding any situation we face a wounded bear that could harm us real bad! It is not about whether or not we are willing to fight the Bear, if necessary…
EDIT: You know, as much as any of us, that we will take the fight to their doorsteps…

Kick the beast while it is on the ground