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And a few words to those so-called nationalist farts crying out for revenge (in Syria, etc.), and laughing their asses off to Russia’s humiliation;
Do not forget, that you have to live with Russia in this neighborhood, whether you like it or not. And your future is rather entangled by a messed up relationship. A humiliated, bitter Russia means only one thing for this country, and that is disaster. You will need to go ways before you expose your balls!
Go out, get a life
You are right, it may get worse for Russia in this conflict, but I am trying to look from the outside, and I feel no obligation to convince anyone.nah i'm just not going to buy this disaster/humiliation is all part of the plan. Only Russians seem to have an army that wants to show every failure as a success. I still remember all the Turkish drone excuses over Syria.
Before Syria Russians had the best air defence systems, the pantsir was hailed as best of its class. Each time Turkish drones out done it, whether it was syria, libya or azerbaijan an army of bots found excuses to defend its failure. Same will happen after this war too in Ukraine.
On balance on everything thats happened, this Ukraine adventure has been an absolute disaster that may just get worse for Russia yet.
Don’t you think these words are a little too strong for a lovely litle goat?
Trying not to be premature but war is clearly tilting in Ukraine's favor.
-Kiev and Chernihiv are cleansed from Russian presence
-Odessa invasion cancelled
-Russian forces kicked out of Mykolaiv
-Russian forces are in retreat in Sumy
-Kharkiv also seen multiple advance by UA
-UA are closing in on Kherson
With the exception of maybe Mariupol, Russia are in setback almost eveywhere.
If this continues Ukraine might have the option to transfer bulk of their troops East towards Kharkiv or Donbass.
I say keep the weapons supplies steady while Ukraine demand the total retreat of Russians back to pre 23 Feb borders and if they reject war must endure until Russia is sufficiently demilitarized via battlefield losses.
Yeah because Turco-Russian relations were always amazing up until Ukraine right?And a few words to those so-called nationalist farts crying out for revenge (in Syria, etc.), and laughing their asses off to Russia’s humiliation;
Do not forget, that you have to live with Russia in this neighborhood, whether you like it or not. And your future is rather entangled by a messed up relationship. A humiliated, bitter Russia means only one thing for this country, and that is disaster. You will need to go ways before you expose your balls!
Go out, get a life
If you are looking for someone selling Russia’s failure as success, it is definitely not me. This is just a call for common sense, for those asking for an immediate payback. I am nowhere near supporting Russia’s claim, nor a believer in her cause. But I find it reckless to go for any action, at the moment, to bring the hell loose on our cause.Its just when people make silly comments but then have the cheek to tell others "to get a life". It comes a cross as really dumb. Its ok for Putin and Russia to lose.
Also nothing outside the box as selling Russian failure as a success, they been doing that for a long time now.
Trying not to be premature but war is clearly tilting in Ukraine's favor.
-Kiev and Chernihiv are cleansed from Russian presence
-Odessa invasion cancelled
-Russian forces kicked out of Mykolaiv
-Russian forces are in retreat in Sumy
-Kharkiv also seen multiple advance by UA
-UA are closing in on Kherson
With the exception of maybe Mariupol, Russia are in setback almost eveywhere.
If this continues Ukraine might have the option to transfer bulk of their troops East towards Kharkiv or Donbass.
I say keep the weapons supplies steady while Ukraine demand the total retreat of Russians back to pre 23 Feb borders and if they reject war must endure until Russia is sufficiently demilitarized via battlefield losses.
Why are they folowing the decades old doctrine? What use do trenches have when you have no air superiority?Trench of russian was busted by Ukraine army.............
You can see what russian orcs looters bring there.........................after killing civilians and take thier home furniture and bring it to russian trench
I have claimed just the opposite, and offered to refrain from any action that would break the hell loose!Yeah because Turco-Russian relations were always amazing up until Ukraine right?
If you are looking for someone selling Russia’s failure as success, it is definitely not me. This is just a call for common sense, for those asking for an immediate payback. I am nowhere near supporting Russia’s claim, nor a believer in her cause. But I find it reckless to go for any action, at the moment, to bring the hell loose on our cause.
I will be with you on this!Trying to sell this failure as Putins intention just comes across as nonsense considering everything that's transpired. As immediate payback, i've not seen it said. But technically sending drones and potentially operators to Ukraine is payback. Sending constant ammunition to those drones and reports of other equipment being sent is also technically payback. And if any nation deserves payback its Russia.
If you remember Russia even threatened Turkey not to sell Ukraine drones, the same Russia that even sent free weapons to all our enemies.
Nah its best kick a mad dog when its down, otherwise when its back to its feet it will bite you.
When dealing with the bully, you can't operate what if. You have to anticipate what he will do and actively counter it. If we are worried about Russia nuking Turkey, the solution isnt to bow our hides down, the solution is to get our own nuclear deterrent.
Turkey is doing good in making the life harder for Russians, wherever you look you see Russians working against Turkish interests.I have claimed just the opposite, and offered to refrain from any action that would break the hell loose!
do not look for any logic...............there is non...........russian orcs decide to go own way............ this is thier culture....... search for civilians ...... rape,kill,loot and then show this to outsider...........Why are they folowing the decades old doctrine? What use do trenches have when you have no air superiority?
Reminds me on pkk tactics in syria and iraq.
That is exactly the question; do we really want to hurt the Bear now, and she becomes all the more aggressive? Or do we simply sail out to our target avoiding any situation we face a wounded bear that could harm us real bad! It is not about whether or not we are willing to fight the Bear, if necessary…Turkey is doing good in making the life harder for Russians, wherever you look you see Russians working against Turkish interests.
-Caucasus
-Central Asia
-Syria
-Libya
-Balkan
-Black sea
Basically everywhere, this is a golden opportunity for Turkey to really hurt Russia with minimal effort, I hope we will also send Artillery to Ukraine, would be a nice pair with the TB2's.
Be sure the Russians would also not show any mercy towards Turkey given the opportunity, the phrase ''sick man of europe'' was said by a Russian tsar btw.
Kick the beast while it is on the groundThat is exactly the question; do we really want to hurt the Bear now, and she becomes all the more aggressive? Or do we simply sail out to our target avoiding any situation we face a wounded bear that could harm us real bad! It is not about whether or not we are willing to fight the Bear, if necessary…
EDIT: You know, as much as any of us, that we will take the fight to their doorsteps…