Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

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Damaged and destroyed russian MBTs

two russians in the car filming ....This is Very important discussion.......this is reality when come to russian behavior

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- Where is you camera?
- Open the window, and start film this tank.
- But there are a lot of our equipment around...
- We will NOT tell them (russians)
- it is not our.
- Or we will not tell, and not upload it at all.
 

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what is going on with Germany.................... they, plan, lie .......repeat !?!?
Germany still support Russia! I think that’s clear here. They think on „after war era“. And maybe of some construction contracts in Ukraine. Devils will always be devils. No matter which robe they give themselves to hide their real nature.
 

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This war will kill the European economy.
Honestly, I dont care
All what I do know is that if the West kept nodding to bully Putin's demands, then Russia will probably be invading Germany in a decade

Putin needs to understand that there is a limit to his bullshit. Just because you have gas doesnt mean that you became a king
 

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This war will kill the European economy.
It's certainly going to be rough, but security comes before economy. I need to see the E.U. be all in here. The weapon's transfers are nice, but let's face it, the backlog of Soviet weaponry that many Eastern European nations are sending, needs to be replaced anyways, with Western weapons suppliers supplanting Russia as the new source.

On the financial front, the EU should be AT LEAST matching, dollar for dollar what the trio of USA, Canada and Britain donate to the war effort. If that trio of countries announces a combined $2.7 billion in new spending (like they did two weeks ago) the E.U. must continue to match their spending, showing a vested, European response, to a European conflict.

If a country as small as Canada (44 million people) is in for $2 billion in donations and loans to this point, with another $500 million on it's way, I expect the same out of the European countries that are similar, or even larger.

In terms of GDP, these are the 16 countries that fall into the top 25 globally, that are contributing to Ukraine's defense.

#1 USA: $20.89 Trillion
#3 Japan: $5.06 Trillion
#4 Germany: $3.85 Trillion
#5 UK: $2.76 Trillion
#7 France: $2.63 Trillion
#8 Italy: $1.89 Trillion
#9 Canada: $1.64 Trillion
#13 Australia: $1.33 Trillion
#14 Spain: $1.28 Trillion
#17 The Netherlands: $914 Billion
#18 Switzerland: $782 Billion
#19 Turkey: $720 Billion
#21 Poland: $597 Billion
#22 Sweden: $541 Billion
#23 Belgium: $522 Billion
#25 Austria: $433 Billion

Every single country ranked #1-#14 on that list (countries with GDPs in the trillions) should be in for a minimum of $2 billion dollars at this point, while countries ranked #17-#25 should be in for at least $1 billion dollars at this point.

That would represent approximately $25 Billion in funding and procurement for Ukraine at this point, not counting another $4-$5 billion that could be scraped together from the smaller, but still relatively wealthy economies in Europe. That also fails go take into account Ukraine's own spending and need to drain their own coffers in order to ensure their self-defense.
 
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At this point, NATO countries are sending everything but modern fighter jets. I worry that Russia is really considering an attack on one of the Western supply lines. I'm guessing that the Russian military is going to pick a convoy that is carrying Eastern European or Turkish equipments to avoid confrontation with Western Europeans and Americans.
 

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Let's go The Netherlands. You're on my list of the world's biggest economies. I want to see your investment rise to $1 Billion USD by the end of next week. Time to catch up.

25 Bushmaster troop carriers. 25 Boxer infantry fighting vehicles. 25 Fennek fitted with stinger anti-aircraft weapons. 15 FH70 Howitzers. Along with a hefty amount of ammunition, artillery rounds, nvgs and comms equipment, that should due for an initial shipment, with the expectation that you're willing to send another $1 Billion worth as soon as may be needed.
 

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At this point, NATO countries are sending everything but modern fighter jets. I worry that Russia is really considering an attack on one of the Western supply lines. I'm guessing that the Russian military is going to pick a convoy that is carrying Eastern European or Turkish equipments to avoid confrontation with Western Europeans and Americans.
They're going to at least match the U.S. shipment of 18, M777 howitzers, with several thousand rounds of ammunition. It's part of a $500 million dollar package that Trudeau announced recently. The rest of it will be procured from a wishlist of items that Ukraine has put forth. They'll be purchased direct from industry.
 

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