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To the Arabs who critised this move.

Lets see if you guys have the balls to take back Cordoba Mosque.
 

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We had/have the greatest advantage of any majority Muslim country, and that was/is secularism. If we go back a few decades, I would say our soft power was greater than it is now. We were praised for being modern and secular. All these TV shows are good for nothing, and TRT World has turned into garbage lately. We saw what our TV shows have done with all the Pakistanis entering the nation.

Just to be clear, a lot of the Muslim world had followed our model. Including Afghanistan and Iran. These countries copied us. But it didn't last. Islamism had the last laugh.

Our government's obsession with the Muslim world is turning the country into a dumping ground. And don't speak of sticking the middle finger to the Europeans, when Erdoğan is keeping millions of refugees because Europe wants us to.
 

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Arabs, Kurds, Armenians and Greeks.

Destroy any kind of Turkic history then they come to us to lecture about respect.

Yerevan was once called the land of mosques. I wonder what happened to the mosques and the native Azerbaijanis who lived there for centuries.

I dont think any of our neighbours have the right to bitch and cry when they destroy a lot of our history.

Saudis destroyed a Ottoman fort to build some ugly ass clock tower.
 

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Recently the Houthis destroyed a memorial dedicated to Turkish soldiers in Yemen.

Nunerous accounts from The Balkans and the Middle East.

Most Turkic history has got wiped or destroyed. Regardless if its Seljuk, Zengid or Ottoman.

During the battle of Mosul. Isis and the Americans destroyed a old Zengid built mosque.

None would speak out against this because its racist or politically incorrect.
 

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Most of the stuff Sultan Baybars built in Egypt has fallen into disrepair because the Egyptians dont give a shit because Ancient Pharaoh bullshit over Turkic Mamluks any day for them.

Turkic history in Egypt does not sell either they leave the historical places to rot or bulldoze the place to build some shitty casino.

Fact of life.
 

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Instead of building mosques in other countries which we will be empty anyway.

Akp could actually spend money on restoring old ones and bring them back to their old self.

But nah they prefer building new ones at high costs.

What you get is some crappy copy of a Ottoman mosque.

So much shit to write. Scathing criticism really. Cant even preserve anything while wasting our money on building new ones 🤬

Bursa used to be all green now I see is a bunch high rise shitty apartments that are akin to depressing soviet times.

As much as im critical of modern architectiture.

How does Ankara of the 1940s with its modernist look of the 1930s and 1940s look better than the shit that we call modern 21st?
 

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Instead of building mosques in other countries which we will be empty anyway.

Akp could actually spend money on restoring old ones and bring them back to their old self.

But nah they prefer building new ones at high costs.

What you get is some crappy copy of a Ottoman mosque.

So much shit to write. Scathing criticism really. Cant even preserve anything while wasting our money on building new ones 🤬

Bursa used to be all green now I see is a bunch high rise shitty apartments that are akin to depressing soviet times.

As much as im critical of modern architectiture.

How does Ankara of the 1940s with its modernist look of the 1930s and 1940s look better than the shit that we call modern 21st?
Foreign policy in KKTC is a disaster. Literally pushing the Turks of the Island into the EUs laps. KKTC has long been a bastion of Turkish nationalism. But there is a rising amount of liberals because AKP is filling it with refugees and building mosques. No one wants either.

This government just wants to see the Turkic world burn while filling up their pockets and destroying our demographics. I've heard that central Asian Turkic countries are getting cautious because AKP is trying to Islamise them. Very dumb move. You know Pakistan tried that in the 90s? It made the central Asian Turk countries cut ties with Pakistan.
 

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Foreign policy in KKTC is a disaster. Literally pushing the Turks of the Island into the EUs laps. KKTC has long been a bastion of Turkish nationalism. But there is a rising amount of liberals because AKP is filling it with refugees and building mosques. No one wants either.

Why are refugees being settled in kktc?
 

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About Sweden and Finland.

Well Turkiye has never been hostile to either country. But guess what Sweden and Finland has ways been hostile to us by allowing.

-pkk terrorists live freely
-allowing its own citizens to join pkk
-government officials meeting with pkk scumbags
-supporting embargos and sanctions against Turkiye
-falsely accusing Turkiye of genocide
-turning a blind eye to pkk terrorist attacks even justifying it
-swedish weapons being used by pkk i wonder where the At4's come from?
 

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I dont think opening it as a Orthodox church meant shit.

Orthodox Christians destroyed a lot of our history in the Balkans and Central Asia.

During thr Bosnian war the Serbs and Croats destroyed any kind of kind of Ottoman history that they can get their hands on.

While the Greeks turned a Ottoman mosque into a porno theater.

Respect my ass

You are missing the point, we are stupidly giving the enemy ammunition to use against us.

Its not about doing these people favours, its about working to counter their propaganda and preserve Turkish sovereignty.

Anyway its easy to talk a big game, what matters is the results. Erdogan talked a big game about Syria too, what a disaster and utter failure that turned out to be for Turkey.
 

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For someone who lives in England that was a dumb move. You basically made it easy for greeks and armenians as well as kurds to demonise Turks further to the English.

The best thing to have done was reopen it as a orthodox church. Positive press, increased tourism revenues, while Muslims are seen as less fanatical and intolerant.

Changing it to mosque benefited erdogans domestic image, but little else.

I'm not arguing with you people about how these nations behave, they behave as hostile enemies, but we cannot keep falling into their traps, we have to be smarter, wiser then them.

As for the west losing its dominance, yes the world is opening up but as it stands and it will stand for at least another hundred years the west will be the side that matters. The Russians fooled themselves into thinking the west was weak and backward, as a result they ended with the Ukrainian disaster and they are not even fighting a NATO nation.
You are wrong my friend
This isnt how Respect is earned btw

If you believe that bowing to the West and acting like the "good" boy will oet them respect you, then you cant be more wrong; in fact, it makes them even more arrogant towards you

The only way for another party to respect you is by either you being equal or greater than them and this is onky achieved when they know that if the Turks are insulted or threatened, the Turks will take matters into their own hands and will reply either by force or through acts like Haghia Sophia
How many Ottoman mosques have been turned to churches and porno theaters? Most of the Ottoman mosques within Europe, which are considered to be state of the art cultural sites have been vandalised just so that they can remove the Turkish legacy over Europe and somehow they expect the Turks to be obedient and keep their churches (which the OTTOMANS BOUGHT) after liberating Istanbul as a museum just so that they can still believe they are superior? Fq the West

Turkey needs to follow the Chinese path! Onky then will the West know to show some fqing respect
 

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Fqing West again I swear
Its like, we will support the PKK and yet still join NATO whether Turkey likes it or not; Erdogan really needs to reject their participation bids into NATO; maybe then they will realise that they dont have iron ladies but some filthy pkk-supporters. Even better, in case of a Russian invasion, they should ask their pkk allies for help, loool
 

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Fqing West again I swear
Its like, we will support the PKK and yet still join NATO whether Turkey likes it or not; Erdogan really needs to reject their participation bids into NATO; maybe then they will realise that they dont have iron ladies but some filthy pkk-supporters. Even better, in case of a Russian invasion, they should ask their pkk allies for help, loool
@Cow's Milk has a point. Besides, pay attention to who opposes Sweden and Finland‘s Nato membership in the tweet, that is Erdogan, not Turkey, nor Turkey’s institutions, just Erdogan. Target singled out, as in pretty much one of the oldest tactics in politics, to overcome opposition. Almost all expect hard bargain on Turkey’s behalf, I say I would not be as surprised if this turns out be yet another failure in the international arena!
 

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To the Arabs who critised this move.

Lets see if you guys have the balls to take back Cordoba Mosque.
Dont worry we have plenty of courage. We ruled the iberian peninsula for 800 years, and until this day they still fear us even though we weak economically, and Millitary equipment.

Anyway back to the point! Turkey should not make it easy for Sweden, and finland to join Nato!
 

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@Cow's Milk has a point. Besides, pay attention to who opposes Sweden and Finland‘s Nato membership in the tweet, that is Erdogan, not Turkey, nor Turkey’s institutions, just Erdogan. Target singled out, as in pretty much one of the oldest tactics in politics, to overcome opposition. Almost all expect hard bargain on Turkey’s behalf, I say I would not be as surprised if this turns out be yet another failure in the international arena!
Erdogan’s wilcard, and his opposition to Nato membership of the two Scandinavian countries (harboring terror groups) are already top news on international media!
 

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TBH this looks like a bargaining tactic. Erdogan is famous for his backsteps. He will get something in return probably the F-16 deal and some concessions in Syria.
 

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