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[the]

Putin 'giving permission' is not necessarily positive.

Its highly likely he will want something in return - most likely areas south of Idlib e.g. Jisr al-Shughour and parts of the M4 highway, both of which are more strategically valuable to Assad than parts of the Syrian-Turkish border which the regime does not even control.

 

[the]

Unfortunately, under most circumstances the Syrian Regime (Assad) benefits from Turkish operations into Syria.

1. They usually recieve parts of 'rebel' territory as part of a deal.
2. Operations force PKK/YPG to work closer with Assad and Russia for political and military protection.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Putin 'giving permission' is not necessarily positive.

Its highly likely he will want something in return - most likely areas south of Idlib e.g. Jisr al-Shughour and parts of the M4 highway, both of which are more strategically valuable to Assad than parts of the Syrian-Turkish border which the regime does not even control.

Syria was played shockingly bad by AK party, but if they keep playing this game where they are waiting for permission or looking to cut deals with the enemy, nothing but failure in the long run will prevail.

Russia is already deep into their own Ukrainian disaster. If anything can be done, it has to be done now.

If it has to be all out war with Russia, then it has to be that way. Preparations should have been made as to how Turkey will also positively effect the Ukrainian war effort in such a situation.

If Russia looks to hit Turkish deployments, they should be removed from Syria, The caucuses and their entire black sea fleet should be sunk. Then every effort should be directed to join the conflict in Ukraine directly against Russia.

 

[Heartbang]

Syria was played shockingly bad by AK party, but if they keep playing this game where they are waiting for permission or looking to cut deals with the enemy, nothing but failure in the long run will prevail.

Russia is already deep into their own Ukrainian disaster. If anything can be done, it has to be done now.

If it has to be all out war with Russia, then it has to be that way. Preparations should have been made as to how Turkey will also positively effect the Ukrainian war effort in such a situation.

If Russia looks to hit Turkish deployments, they should be removed from Syria, The caucuses and their entire black sea fleet should be sunk. Then every effort should be directed to join the conflict in Ukraine directly against Russia.

i think that kind of harder response will come post-2023. rn there are too many joint endeavors to be jeopardized by that kind of hard-ball, guns-blazing approach.

 

[GoatsMilk]

i think that kind of harder response will come post-2023. rn there are too many joint endeavors to be jeopardized by that kind of hard-ball, guns-blazing approach.

If the Ukrainian situation gets settled, Erdogan will have yet again lost another opportunity and ones like this i doubt come around again.

 

[Ryder]

I dont want to sound like an ahole but.

I understand why women, children, disabled and elderly would flee a warzone.

But please tell me why do we have fully grown men fleeing even many leaving their own families behind.

This is awful humilation.

 

[GoatsMilk]

I dont want to sound like an ahole but.

I understand why women, children, disabled and elderly would flee a warzone.

But please tell me why do we have fully grown men fleeing even many leaving their own families behind.

This is awful humilation.

Its basically the opposite of Ukraine. The Ukrainians sent their families away but the men stayed to fight. In Syria the men left their families behind and fled to Turkey. Anyway it is what it is, the situation has to be resolved with the Turkish military.

 

[Ryder]

Its basically the opposite of Ukraine. The Ukrainians sent their families away but the men stayed to fight. In Syria the men left their families behind and fled to Turkey. Anyway it is what it is, the situation has to be resolved with the Turkish military.

In Islam anybody who flees the battle actually faces Allah's humiliation.

This mainly for men especially. Since men are the protectors.

Now it makes sense they left their families behind, drowning in the sea while the border guards and the police are beating them up and making them suffer awful humilation while keeping them in prison like conditions at the same time fighting for scraps even begging to be let inside the country. Many have also ended up as slaves or even their organs taken out.

Pretty sad and humiliating. I see it as tragic really.

 

[Glass🚬]

Unfortunately, under most circumstances the Syrian Regime (Assad) benefits from Turkish operations into Syria.

1. They usually recieve parts of 'rebel' territory as part of a deal.
2. Operations force PKK/YPG to work closer with Assad and Russia for political and military protection.

1. They received parts of territory diplomatically because everyone believed that the russians would be able to push it trough military means anyway. Judging by Libya,Syria and Karabakh and finally ukraine this is utter nonsense, they would be easily finished.
2. That would make Assad again a direct target for the TSK which he definitive doesnt want to. Its one thing to fight against rebels, another to fight against a state army and they have experienced, for a couple of days what it means to fight against a real army.

Quite frankly this is the golden opportunity and it wont be wasted, deal with it.

 

[Lool]

I dont want to sound like an ahole but.

I understand why women, children, disabled and elderly would flee a warzone.

But please tell me why do we have fully grown men fleeing even many leaving their own families behind.

This is awful humilation.

The main reason is due to who is fighting whom in the war
Rn, majority of the refugees who are coming to Turkey are from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran..... in all of these nations, the only similarity is that their conflicts are INTERNAL; i-e, Syrians fighting syrians, iraqis figthing iraqis, poor pakistan against rich Pakistan military officials etc..... In such scenarios, the common man doesnt want or have the will to fight in such warfares (if he isnt one of the ideological believers of the fighting parties) thus, he leaves the country and goes to another nation to work and earn money for his family in their own homeland or even better to search for a stable country where he can settle in ajd take his family to live with him in the new country

As for Ukraine, the foe isnt internal but external! All Ukrainians can rally on the thought that Russians are evil and we need to fight to protect our land; thus, most men remain to fight while those who will just be deadweight (like old ppl and children) escapes so that the men can fight in ease

For other countries like Afghanistan or Syria, who is the fow exactly? No matter how much we hate Taliban, it is still composed of Afghanis who believe in a certain way of living and the same is in Syria

Those who compare the war in Ukraine with the war in countries like Syria and Afghanistan and consider them to be the same cant be more wrong

 

[Anastasius]

The main reason is due to who is fighting whom in the war
Rn, majority of the refugees who are coming to Turkey are from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran..... in all of these nations, the only similarity is that their conflicts are INTERNAL; i-e, Syrians fighting syrians, iraqis figthing iraqis, poor pakistan against rich Pakistan military officials etc..... In such scenarios, the common man doesnt want or have the will to fight in such warfares (if he isnt one of the ideological believers of the fighting parties) thus, he leaves the country and goes to another nation to work and earn money for his family in their own homeland or even better to search for a stable country where he can settle in ajd take his family to live with him in the new country

As for Ukraine, the foe isnt internal but external! All Ukrainians can rally on the thought that Russians are evil and we need to fight to protect our land; thus, most men remain to fight while those who will just be deadweight (like old ppl and children) escapes so that the men can fight in ease

For other countries like Afghanistan or Syria, who is the fow exactly? No matter how much we hate Taliban, it is still composed of Afghanis who believe in a certain way of living and the same is in Syria

Those who compare the war in Ukraine with the war in countries like Syria and Afghanistan and consider them to be the same cant be more wrong

There is no reason to leave for another country and leave your family behind. Especially since it's debatable if they actually are making money to send back or just living off the taxpayer's dime.

I have a very pessimistic view of illegal immigrants pretending to be refugees.

Not to mention that there are many countries experiencing internal instability yet their young men don't flee in as large numbers as these people do. When was the last time you saw a migrant from Myanmar?

 

[blackjack]

Are the Syrian militants better trained and armed than Ukrainians? This I would like to see.

I don't know why this is so fucking funny, but I hope the western media does not make the Turks look like the Russians and the Kurds look like the Ukrainians.

 

[Lool]

There is no reason to leave for another country and leave your family behind. Especially since it's debatable if they actually are making money to send back or just living off the taxpayer's dime.

I have a very pessimistic view of illegal immigrants pretending to be refugees.

Not to mention that there are many countries experiencing internal instability yet their young men don't flee in as large numbers as these people do. When was the last time you saw a migrant from Myanmar?

Firstly, when I said instability, I meant fighting and not an economic crisis.
As for Myanmar, the Muslim minority is currently being butchered and a vast majority of them have escaped to Bangladesh; just because Myanmar refugees havent come to Turkey doesnt mean there are no refugees from such countries mate

 

[Lool]

In Islam anybody who flees the battle actually faces Allah's humiliation.

This mainly for men especially. Since men are the protectors.

Now it makes sense they left their families behind, drowning in the sea while the border guards and the police are beating them up and making them suffer awful humilation while keeping them in prison like conditions at the same time fighting for scraps even begging to be let inside the country. Many have also ended up as slaves or even their organs taken out.

Pretty sad and humiliating. I see it as tragic really.

Agreed tbh
I personally believe that God is fair to all
Rn, I believe that God is punishing is muslims for being a bunch of idiots. They let internal strife take over and destroy their country, they didnt appreciate the blessings that their lands had from a plethora of oil to fertile lands and above all they allowed the idiotic Western nations to profit from such divisions and steal their resources. Till this day, US has been taking Syria's oil for free. Till this day, the Western powers like the US, France, Germany, Russia, and UK are dividing the Muslim nation as if it was pancakes for Gods sake

And then what do we do? We start following LGBT bullshit, liberal beliefs etc.... and what has this done to humanity? Nothing but screwing us over

I mean just today, a turkish couple had sex in the middle of the street and another one burned himself to death. Wtf is this? I honestly believe that we Muslims deserve to be punished for the idiocities that we are doing.

My parents and religious teacher in my school were really religious compared to me..... I barely manage to pray the 5 daily prayers tbh, I still do remember how my teacher used to say that the prophet said that one of the signs that the day of judgement is near and that our communities are broken and we will be further away from our religion is when ppl start to have sex on the streets without a care in the world....I still remember how I called my teacher insane and how that is impossible to happen and all what he did was laugh and say that you will live and see..... and here Iam seeing such bullshit

The current Western liberal world is similar to the last days of the Roman and Ottoman empires..... a period where corruption is rampant, ethics is down the drain, normal laws are just thrown in the dustbin, and prostitution was everywhere
That is why I believe that the Western hegemony is on its path to doom and whats even worse is that we are having them as a role model for us to follow..... Sad times I swear

That is why I believe that the new world order will be spearheaded by China! They have been crushing LGBT communities, crushing rotten western beliefs such as freedom and same sex marriage etc....and have been passing laws to ensure that men stay men and women stay as women since this is how we were created and how God and nature intended for us to be

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1531606176470904834

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1531604483578396673

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1531720535813591042

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1531693228218634242

And I just wanna portray that all of this insanity is happening in Istanbul..... the prime base for the PKK, LGBT, and liberal rotten communities and I really wonder why all of this started appearing now rather than before.... simply because they were oppresed not too long ago and now they are rampant to do whatever they want

 

[Anastasius]

Firstly, when I said instability, I meant fighting and not an economic crisis.
As for Myanmar, the Muslim minority is currently being butchered and a vast majority of them have escaped to Bangladesh; just because Myanmar refugees havent come to Turkey doesnt mean there are no refugees from such countries mate

Exactly, they are escaping to a neighbor.

What the hell is a young man from a country halfway across the world from Turkey doing there? And if they are escaping, where are their families?

 

[wolveray1]

There is no reason to leave for another country and leave your family behind. Especially since it's debatable if they actually are making money to send back or just living off the taxpayer's dime.

I have a very pessimistic view of illegal immigrants pretending to be refugees.

Not to mention that there are many countries experiencing internal instability yet their young men don't flee in as large numbers as these people do. When was the last time you saw a migrant from Myanmar?

A lot of myanmar refugees and myanmar foreign workers in malaysia,thailand and Singapore.

 

[Ryder]

Seriously fck the assholes who have sex in the public.

I cant stand these pieces of shit.

Seriously man

Honestly these kind of people should be whipped!!

 

[Tonyukuk]

Agreed tbh
I personally believe that God is fair to all
Rn, I believe that God is punishing is muslims for being a bunch of idiots. They let internal strife take over and destroy their country, they didnt appreciate the blessings that their lands had from a plethora of oil to fertile lands and above all they allowed the idiotic Western nations to profit from such divisions and steal their resources. Till this day, US has been taking Syria's oil for free. Till this day, the Western powers like the US, France, Germany, Russia, and UK are dividing the Muslim nation as if it was pancakes for Gods sake

And then what do we do? We start following LGBT bullshit, liberal beliefs etc.... and what has this done to humanity? Nothing but screwing us over

I mean just today, a turkish couple had sex in the middle of the street and another one burned himself to death. Wtf is this? I honestly believe that we Muslims deserve to be punished for the idiocities that we are doing.

My parents and religious teacher in my school were really religious compared to me..... I barely manage to pray the 5 daily prayers tbh, I still do remember how my teacher used to say that the prophet said that one of the signs that the day of judgement is near and that our communities are broken and we will be further away from our religion is when ppl start to have sex on the streets without a care in the world....I still remember how I called my teacher insane and how that is impossible to happen and all what he did was laugh and say that you will live and see..... and here Iam seeing such bullshit

The current Western liberal world is similar to the last days of the Roman and Ottoman empires..... a period where corruption is rampant, ethics is down the drain, normal laws are just thrown in the dustbin, and prostitution was everywhere
That is why I believe that the Western hegemony is on its path to doom and whats even worse is that we are having them as a role model for us to follow..... Sad times I swear

That is why I believe that the new world order will be spearheaded by China! They have been crushing LGBT communities, crushing rotten western beliefs such as freedom and same sex marriage etc....and have been passing laws to ensure that men stay men and women stay as women since this is how we were created and how God and nature intended for us to be

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1531606176470904834

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1531604483578396673

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1531720535813591042

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1531693228218634242

And I just wanna portray that all of this insanity is happening in Istanbul..... the prime base for the PKK, LGBT, and liberal rotten communities and I really wonder why all of this started appearing now rather than before.... simply because they were oppresed not too long ago and now they are rampant to do whatever they want

Ragip Soylu is lying out of his teeth. The man in the sex video is of Pakistani origin and was given citizenship. The woman is also not of Turkish origin.

 

[Ryder]

Ragip Soylu is lying out of his teeth. The man in the sex video is of Pakistani origin and was given citizenship. The woman is also not of Turkish origin.

Shouldnt be happening in the public at all.

Regardless of who does it.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Ragip Soylu is lying out of his teeth. The man in the sex video is of Pakistani origin and was given citizenship. The woman is also not of Turkish origin.

Political islamists at their core are fraudsters and deceivers. The whole intention is take all power and wealth for themselves while making everyone impoverished.