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Russian troops hit Kiev. A large-scale missile strike was carried out by six X-101 missiles fired by Russian strategic bombers. On the outskirts of Kiev, T-72 tanks supplied by Eastern European countries and other armored vehicles located in the buildings of the Darnitsky wagon repair company were destroyed.


The attack of the soldiers of the Russian special forces of Chechnya in Ukraine. The Ukrainian soldier ignored the offer to surrender, after which he was destroyed in battle by soldiers of the Russian special forces.


Servicemen of the 45th artillery brigade of Ukraine, published an episode of the video of the destruction of the Ukrainian UAV. The drone corrected the artillery fire of Ukraine but was destroyed by the Russian SAM.


The US Department of Defense has published footage showing M113 armored personnel carriers preparing to be sent to Ukraine. In total, Kiev will receive 200 armored personnel carriers, which have been in service with the United States since the 1960s. The American M113 APC turned out to be successful and became the most massive armored personnel carrier in history. The armored personnel carrier can carry 11 infantrymen. The body of the APC is made of aluminum armor, with the addition of manganese and magnesium. One of the unsuccessful decisions of the APC, the lack of loopholes for shooters. A large-caliber 12.7 mm Browning M2NV machine gun was installed as the main armament on the M113 APC. The range of the car is up to 480 kilometers, in new versions.



 

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Turkey should supply Ukrainians with M113T2 TOW carriers. We have shit ton of them and we are trying to replace them with either TUA or KAPLAN STA/PARS STA vehicles.
 

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Turkey should supply Ukrainians with M113T2 TOW carriers. We have shit ton of them and we are trying to replace them with either TUA or KAPLAN STA/PARS STA vehicles.
Not very likely to happen;
1. Turkey is playing the “neutral” country card. Therefore shouldn’t supply arms to either side.
2. M113 vehicles are being upgraded with hybrid power packs. If first 50 are successful, it could be useful to us.
3. Each one of these vehicles is around a million dollars. We are not that rich to give them away. Sell them. Yes!
4. We have over 3600 of these. Even if we don’t need to use all of them, after the hybrid upgrade, they could be a good export item and money earner.
 
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Not very likely to happen;
1. Turkey is playing the “neutral” country card. Therefore shouldn’t supply arms to either side.
2. M113 vehicles are being upgraded with hybrid power packs. If first 50 are successful, it could be useful to us.
3. Each one of these vehicles is around a million dollars. We are not that rich to give them away. Sell them. Yes!
4. We have over 3600 of these. Even if we don’t need to use all of them, after the hybrid upgrade, they could be a good export item and money earner.
I have seen those Hybrid ones but M113 isn't viable for modern combat good for logistics but These are death traps.

We already have a better version of it ACV-300 ACV-15 KAPLAN STA(Tank hunters.)

These M113T2s have literally no upgrades for Its armor sorry about my language but they are kinda shit.
 

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Turkey should supply Ukrainians with M113T2 TOW carriers. We have shit ton of them and we are trying to replace them with either TUA or KAPLAN STA/PARS STA vehicles.
Türkiye could have supplied but.... Bayraktars do great job than any others tank killers however currently Ukraine doesn't need tank killers, they have enough Tanks, IFVs, Gun carriers and ATGMs.
Currently the problem is enemy artillery and rockets.

İf Türkiye followed different policy, we should supply Hisars, Korkuts, SUNGUR platforms which have modern sensors since Russians terrorize Ukraine with missiles/ artillery rockets.
 
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I have seen those Hybrid ones but M113 isn't viable for modern combat good for logistics but These are death traps.

We already have a better version of it ACV-300 ACV-15 KAPLAN STA(Tank hunters.)

These M113T2s have literally no upgrades for Its armor sorry about my language but they are kinda shit.
I understand your point about them being death traps etc. But any armoured vehicle that has no APS and ERA fitted, will be a “death trap” in the battlefield against modern ATGMs.
However, when these vehicles undergo modernisation process, they become more agile with longer ranges and develop enough power to allow for more modern weapons and sensors to be fitted. (Old M113 with 480km range, new modernised one with 720km range) They can also be designed to be unmanned. That will bring a different angle for their modernisation. Instead of being used as simple personnel carriers they can become armoured fighting vehicles. And to be honest, any armoured vehicle carrying people should have at least Pulat APS fitted; Also it’s ballistic armour checked and upgraded for basic protection against explosives, RPG and heavy caliber gun fire.
The modernised M113 vehicles will go through 20 different tests that conforms to military standards for this type of AFV.
If Ukraine really needs them, then US can buy them from us and ship them to Ukraine after we modernise them. It would be a good test to see how they perform in the actual field.
 
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There are ongoing discussion that pictures are Photoshop-ed.
Old picture of russian fighter on the ground


Known german psudo-journalist for creating/ fabricating news against Ukraine WAR.
Also known for Troll

Facts, it is not the same airplane.............
 

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Russian artillery firing at Ukraine from Russian territory will be a justified target for destruction by HIMARS missile systems.

"If we are talking about Russian military units firing at the Ukrainian side, these are the targets. It doesn't matter where they are located - in Ukraine or Russia."
- US Ambassador to Ukraine William Taylor

 

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