Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Fuzuli NL]

Russian chopper shot down right as it's about to do the pop-up maneuver to fire missiles ballistically:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1166995970805936

Ka-52?

 

[blackjack]

You're comparing apples and oranges, mate.

My point is, although Russians failed against weak Ukraine (before weapons flow); Your propagandists are talking about demilitarising the entire NATO!

I don't think any Russian knows what "demilitarise" really means.

What are you all smoking? Excess copium is not very good for your health. Mental health too, I heard.

How? Afghanistan, Iraq and Serbia are far less equipped than Ukraine and still took NATO longer than the current occupation in ukraine. The only one here is coping is you. Unless your saying it's apples and oranges because russias opponents are far better than NATOs opponents?(which your not denying) that's like saying turkey failed against Syria for having to sign a cease fire by the Saudis and ruskies which is same logic you are using.

 

[B.t.N]

You're comparing apples and oranges, mate.

My point is, although Russians failed against weak Ukraine (before weapons flow); Your propagandists are talking about demilitarising the entire NATO!

I don't think any Russian knows what "demilitarise" really means.

What are you all smoking? Excess copium is not very good for your health. Mental health too, I heard.

Good for the heart though, esp. cardiovascular disorders!

 

[Fuzuli NL]

OK, we all get it, you have got a bigger dick!

I really doubt it but let's not get into this.

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1532865617723785218

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533120591280189440

 

[Ecderha]

russians, you can ruuuuun, but you can NOT hide

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533097306999988224

 

[Fuzuli NL]

How? Afghanistan, Iraq and Serbia are far less equipped than Ukraine and still took NATO longer than the current occupation in ukraine. The only one here is coping is you. Unless your saying it's apples and oranges because russias opponents are far better than NATOs opponents?(which your not denying) that's like saying turkey failed against Syria for having to sign a cease fire by the Saudis and ruskies which is same logic you are using.

How are you going to demilitarise NATO?

Apples and oranges because Ukraine did let you march in and take Crimea and Donbas which you did, and then you got a big head so you decided that you're going for Kyiv. The rest is an epic military failure and incompetence of astronomic proportions that will be taught in military academies for decades to come on how not to do things in a battlefield.

When it comes to Afghanistan and Iraq, it seems that neither the US nor the Russians have taken lessons of how the occupier will never win.
Look at Israel, since 1948 they never had peace in the real sense, and I'm not talking about their PR campaigns, and they never will it seems.
The US bled in Afghanistan and they ended up sitting at the same table with the Taliban and shook hands with them.
Iraq was another fiasco after 2003 for both Iraq and the US.

However, you're adding Serbia to the two examples above. Serbia campaign and Desert Storm (Iraq 1991) were both very well orchestrated and successful NATO campaigns. Ended up "demilitarising" --in the real sense-- both Serbia and Iraq.

Russia on the other hand tried to do the shock and awe effect only to see it boomerang right back at the aggressor and bite hem in the arse. Really bad.

Apples, oranges. Orchard fruit, Citrus fruit. Not the same.

 

[Nilgiri]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1532946787140517889

 

[Ecderha]

Putin's puppet & Kremlin asset, does not appear to be very popular among the French population.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533145680629313537

 

[Gary]

Iraq and Serbia are far less equipped than Ukraine and still took NATO longer than the current occupation in ukraine.

The Iraqi army of 1991 is a very large, very well equipped army that got defeated in a very short period of time not only by technology but by superior operational mastery of the coalition . Operation Desert Storm is to this day a role model of what a modern war should look like, including by China and Russia.

Russia clearly failed at imitating what the US coalition did 31 years ago.

If anything, this war is a good reminder to all militaries that bling bling weapons doesn't win the war. Russia enters this war with the belief that their superior weaponry WILL dictate the outcome in their favor in a very short period of time. Facts meanwhile really hit Putin hard, turns out it took more than just equipment to try imitate what the coalition achieved in ODS, 31 years ago.

 

[Ecderha]

Corruption in russia: Just a few years ago, Ludmila Veryayeva became the head of a regional Migration Dept. under Internal Affairs.
That’s her in the uniform from that time. She used to drive an old Japanese car and was living paycheck-to-paycheck.

She able to become part of one of putin circles......... Next photo is her, now.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533135317804253184

Observe the transformation – on her lowly government salary, after just a few years, Plastic Surgeons & other specialists gave this Cop a complete makeover, she now owns a real Rolex & diamond jewelry, and drives a new Range Rover worth over 10 million rubles.

 

[Ecderha]

Today is raining of russian armor

Launch......Пуск...........

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533151625900089344

more....Пуск...........

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533140097016659968

and more......

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533153484236791809

 

[Kathirz]

Let's go

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1533173045761822722

 

[GoatsMilk]

This is not the topic but let me respond to your stupid comment. calling your self an expert with a goat profile picture What is your source of information? Some random ass articles you read on the web? That's the best you can do right?
You want to enlite your ignorant brain go chat with real experts like Jalel Harchaou or people on the ground like @TashfinLy who was nearly got killed on the first push to capture Al Wattia Air base.
You ignorant goat looking, Hafter even used Israeli drones and failed the GNA also failed to reach Sirte and Jafra because both sides started establishing multilayered air defences that's what my comment was about you ignorant, if i have to choose between loosing a TB2 or a Muhajer 6 i will pick Muhajer 6.

Your comment was absolute nonsense and to be fair nearly everything you post is nonsense.

 

[Barry]

This is not the topic but let me respond to your stupid comment. calling your self an expert with a goat profile picture What is your source of information? Some random ass articles you read on the web? That's the best you can do right?
You want to enlite your ignorant brain go chat with real experts like Jalel Harchaou or people on the ground like @TashfinLy who was nearly got killed on the first push to capture Al Wattia Air base.
You ignorant goat looking, Hafter even used Israeli drones and failed the GNA also failed to reach Sirte and Jafra because both sides started establishing multilayered air defences that's what my comment was about you ignorant, if i have to choose between loosing a TB2 or a Muhajer 6 i will pick Muhajer 6.

he didn't call himself an expert, he's merely listing a bunch of conflict zones where TB2's have been proven effective, whilst commenting at the lack of ability of Iranian and Chinese drones. All you're doing is taking everything personally, projecting and talking mad amounts of nonsense because you've been caught out in ignorance and your shame and arrogance won't let you learn anything from people trying to educate you.

 

[RogerRanger]

I must say that the Russians progress has been methodical, rather than rapid. Slowly, day by day wearing the Ukrainians down, maintaining a high-moderate operational tempo. Rather than the rapid encirclements and destruction of company and brigade sized forces. They are just destroying them with air and artillery fire, then moving into the ground with infantry. Not much use of MBT and IFV's, very interesting I think. Totally not how the Germans did it in WW2 or how the Americans did it. More like WW1 British doctrine and operational art, when the British were very successful. One thing that is clear for me is the Russians can clearly do both, the fast moving encirclement and firepower, as well as the slow advance using firepower. Both things work and have their place. I get caught up in there being one best way to fight a war, but there is more than one way or even 3-4 different ways to skin the cat in war. The Russians ability to change operationally in two weeks is very impressive. The Russians ability to logistically maintain the operational tempo is impressive too.

The Russians haven't suffered a single operational defeat, against the second best army in Europe. Also the Russians are only using 60-80,000 men throughout the war at any one time. Then rotating these forces in and out. This is very impressive too. Again this is stuff and a level of professionalism that the Russians need to be recognized for. The Ukrainian army and western support has been very disappointing, from my perspective I didn't think the Russians could have invaded Ukraine, destroyed its air defences and air force, encircled its army in the east and then systematically destroyed it. I expected the Ukrainians to pull back west of the big river, keeping 30,000 in the major urban centers and for them to slug it out, in an even contest, but the Russians bringing up the heavy weapons and more men. It hasn't gone like this at all.

 

[blackjack]

How are you going to demilitarise NATO?

Apples and oranges because Ukraine did let you march in and take Crimea and Donbas which you did, and then you got a big head so you decided that you're going for Kyiv. The rest is an epic military failure and incompetence of astronomic proportions that will be taught in military academies for decades to come on how not to do things in a battlefield.

When it comes to Afghanistan and Iraq, it seems that neither the US nor the Russians have taken lessons of how the occupier will never win.
Look at Israel, since 1948 they never had peace in the real sense, and I'm not talking about their PR campaigns, and they never will it seems.
The US bled in Afghanistan and they ended up sitting at the same table with the Taliban and shook hands with them.
Iraq was another fiasco after 2003 for both Iraq and the US.

However, you're adding Serbia to the two examples above. Serbia campaign and Desert Storm (Iraq 1991) were both very well orchestrated and successful NATO campaigns. Ended up "demilitarising" --in the real sense-- both Serbia and Iraq.

Russia on the other hand tried to do the shock and awe effect only to see it boomerang right back at the aggressor and bite hem in the arse. Really bad.

Apples, oranges. Orchard fruit, Citrus fruit. Not the same.

this is extreme cope, Serbia was a far smaller country and far less equipped than Ukraine and the timeframe took way fucking longer so I dont follow you unless your putting Russia into god tier status that they are suppose to take ukraine faster than Serbia.

Also since Donetsk finally got hit by Ukraine this is what happened next today. Also I am begging those HIMARS to have 500km missiles

 

[blackjack]

https://files.catbox.moe/7gwmj4.mp4

https://t.me/SergeyKolyasnikov/37621 Vitali Klitschko confirmed the explosions in the Darnitsky and Dneprovsky districts of Kiev.

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1654400917922.webm

 

[Anastasius]

How? Afghanistan, Iraq and Serbia are far less equipped than Ukraine and still took NATO longer than the current occupation in ukraine. The only one here is coping is you. Unless your saying it's apples and oranges because russias opponents are far better than NATOs opponents?(which your not denying) that's like saying turkey failed against Syria for having to sign a cease fire by the Saudis and ruskies which is same logic you are using.

Uh, no. NATO curbstomped all 3 (in Serbia's case it was literally just casual bombings) in a matter of weeks with far, FAR less losses than Russia and far less embarassing displays of incompetence. The rest of the time was a babysitting mission. And you know this.

 

[blackjack]

Uh, no. NATO curbstomped all 3 (in Serbia's case it was literally just casual bombings) in a matter of weeks with far, FAR less losses than Russia and far less embarassing displays of incompetence. The rest of the time was a babysitting mission. And you know this.

i see a 15 month war period with Serbs also its not just the ukrainians they are fighting.
Foreign legion getting rekt on arrival in Severodonetsk.

so technically Russia Vs NATO + ukraine > NATO vs Serbs. That video is not BS either unless you want to argue that the foreign allegiance doesnt work for NATO

I have a suspicion that one of the guys realized how fucked they are and quickly shot himself in the hand ASAP, before the evacuation vehicle left

I guess regular russian conscripts are not too shabby if they are giving these people high casaulties.