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[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1534488852286607361

 

[Huelague]

Syria is an independent and sovereign country - No outsider should be allowed to wage war and kill Syrian people in Syria.
So: Russia - out, USA - out, Iran - out, and Turkey - out. (excluding those troops invited by Damascus)

On the other hand - no joke - why isn't Turkey "liberating" e.g. 10%-15% of Syria and handing over that territory to an independent Kurdish state? any better way to make friends with a mortal enemy? - Kurdish friends for decades to come.!

Silly idea? - if so please don't hesitate to tell me why.

No?

 

[Huelague]

Isn't the primary goal of all Kurdish organizations to have an own country? they are not just asking for only Turkish territory.
If Turkey is in a position to do so e.g. via Syrian lands (after all you mentioned controlled by an illegitimate government) - then why not? and thus gain friends for the future!

Olaf Scholz (German chancellor). " We dont want revisionism." (about Ukraine).

When it comes to Western states of course...

 

[GoatsMilk]

yeah lets give land to YPG who is renamed PKK who has been waging war against the Turks and Turkish state since.
Don't talk about stuff you don't have any Idea Kurdish friends are just %10 percent of syria.

Also I doubt Syrian goverment is legitimate after what they did to themselves.
If ASSAD played his cards right there would be no civil war in Syria also half of the so Called Syrian Arab army is IRGC militias from Iran not even their army is syrian.

Plus Turkey has every right to Intervene against YPG they aren't the goverment there technically It is anarcyh plus there has been lots of weapon smugglings happened through border.

If ISIS or YPG didn't sheller Turkish border cities we wouldn't have Intervened but play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Why not give them part of the USA, Russia or Europe, they seem to be the biggest backers and supporters of PKKISTAN. Oh yeah, we all saw what happened at the polish border when 2000 iraqi Kurds tried to enter europe, beaten and pushed back.

the reality is the pkk kurds are mere pawns used by white powers from the east and west to destabilise the region.

 

[Manomed]

Kurds claim every land even there is only 2 kurds living there. Their plan is to take land from Iran turkey syria to form state As a Diyarbakır Turkmen before yavuz Sultan Selim there was no kurds here why should I gave up these places?

 

[GoatsMilk]

Kurds claim every land even there is only 2 kurds living there. Their plan is to take land from Iran turkey syria to form state As a Diyarbakır Turkmen before yavuz Sultan Selim there was no kurds here why should I gave up these places?

Its the same old trouble making nations though that keep promoting it. The biggest backers have been the USA and Russia, neither nation talks about giving lands to her minorities and unlike the Kurds her minorities actually owned and ruled the land before their European occupiers arrival.

meanwhile Turkish Cypriots cannot be internationally recognised. But the historically stateless Kurds "deserve" a country carved out from 4 surrounding states. Its a mad crazy idea that will only further destabilise the region. Even madder then the creation of Isreal.

to make matters worse these people have no means to do it whatsoever, without outsiders helping them its impossible. A bit like Isreal that only exists because of outside help.

 

[Lool]

Its the same old trouble making nations though that keep promoting it. The biggest backers have been the USA and Russia, neither nation talks about giving lands to her minorities and unlike the Kurds her minorities actually owned and ruled the land before their European occupiers arrival.

meanwhile Turkish Cypriots cannot be internationally recognised. But the historically stateless Kurds "deserve" a country carved out from 4 surrounding states. Its a mad crazy idea that will only further destabilise the region. Even madder then the creation of Isreal.

to make matters worse these people have no means to do it whatsoever, without outsiders helping them its impossible. A bit like Isreal that only exists because of outside help.

This is exactly what the west wants, a pseudo state that will plunge the region into chaos through which the US and the EU can be the only ones who profit from their despair

 

[Lool]

@TheInsider any new news about the operation? I have a feeling that Erdo will end up cancelling the operation just like in the past

 

[Jagdflieger]

Olaf Scholz (German chancellor). " We dont want revisionism." (about Ukraine).

When it comes to Western states of course...

Off course!!

 

[Ryder]

Isn't the primary goal of all Kurdish organizations to have an own country? they are not just asking for only Turkish territory.
If Turkey is in a position to do so e.g. via Syrian lands (after all you mentioned controlled by an illegitimate government) - then why not? and thus gain friends for the future!

Give the Tibetans and Uygurs a separate country.

Many of these hypocrites who support kurdish separatism will no way give a separate state to their minorities.

You want the kurds to have a state give them one in China since china is fcking big.

 

[Jagdflieger]

Its the same old trouble making nations though that keep promoting it. The biggest backers have been the USA and Russia, neither nation talks about giving lands to her minorities and unlike the Kurds her minorities actually owned and ruled the land before their European occupiers arrival.

meanwhile Turkish Cypriots cannot be internationally recognised. But the historically stateless Kurds "deserve" a country carved out from 4 surrounding states. Its a mad crazy idea that will only further destabilise the region. Even madder then the creation of Isreal.

to make matters worse these people have no means to do it whatsoever, without outsiders helping them its impossible. A bit like Isreal that only exists because of outside help.

Why bring in all those negative examples - maybe Turkey could do better? even set an example?

I see your avatar displaying the union jack - wasn't it a great idea to give Ireland it's independence after 500 years of occupation and injustice? besides some usual European animosity amongst each other, I don't see any hatred or miss-givings between Brits and Irish folks nowadays unlike some 100 years and more ago.

 

[Ryder]

Kurds claim every land even there is only 2 kurds living there. Their plan is to take land from Iran turkey syria to form state As a Diyarbakır Turkmen before yavuz Sultan Selim there was no kurds here why should I gave up these places?

They did live in eastern turkey albeit in small numbers. Kurds and their lands have always been in between Iraq and Iran. Kurdish exodus was caused by Shah Ismail and their welcoming by Yavuz Sultan Selim who used the Kurds as proxies against the Safavids and the Alevi Turkmens of Anatolia.

 

[Manomed]

They did live in eastern turkey albeit in small numbers. Kurds and their lands have always been in between Iraq and Iran. Kurdish exodus was caused by Shah Ismail and their welcoming by Yavuz Sultan Selim who used the Kurds as proxies against the Safavids and the Alevi Turkmens of Anatolia.

My Turkmen bretherns still there Albeit kurdified. Lots of Diyarbakır folk has %20(standart for Turkmen) Eastern Eurasian but they call themselves Kurdish.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Syria is an independent and sovereign country - No outsider should be allowed to wage war and kill Syrian people in Syria.
So: Russia - out, USA - out, Iran - out, and Turkey - out. (excluding those troops invited by Damascus)

On the other hand - no joke - why isn't Turkey "liberating" e.g. 10%-15% of Syria and handing over that territory to an independent Kurdish state? any better way to make friends with a mortal enemy? - Kurdish friends for decades to come.!

Silly idea? - if so please don't hesitate to tell me why.

It is a silly idea!
More than silly; It is a totally wrong idea!
Turkiye is formed by “people” who call themselves Turkish. Not necessarily ethnic Turks. As our great leader Ataturk stated; “The people that formed the Turkish Republic is called Turkish Nation.”
This includes people with ethnic origins as diverse as Kurds, Arabs, Bosnians, Circassians, Turks etc.
But due to the geopolitical importance of the region, be it hidden oil reserves, Jewish aspirations for a larger Israel or closeness to world’s majority of oil and energy reserves; there are many outside forces actively in play to change the demographic constitution of Turkey and break it apart to create a western puppet country in the east that will abide by the western rules. Big boys with clout are the supporters of this agenda so that they can take a slice of the cake.
Western countries and media manipulate their public accordingly by feeding the notion of, “poor Kurds need a country of their own, they are persecuted under the dictatorial regimes of Turkey, Iran, Syria and Iraq.“ They easily close an eye to the fact that, some of the founders of Turkish Republic and Presidents were of Kurdish descent.
I can never forget in the late 90’s when a British TV program was interviewing Kurdish immigrants in UK about why they came to UK and how the life was difficult in Turkey under Turkish rule, one of the interviewees said in Turkish “Us Turkish Women” ; But the TV channel translated it as “Us Kurdish Women”. My English partner who could speak fluent Turkish, couldn’t believe his ears about the two faced propaganda western media were conducting and was disgusted with the whole UK attitude towards Turkey.
Stop seeing everything through what your government and media is feeding you. Be more open to realities.

 

[Jagdflieger]

Give the Tibetans and Uygurs a separate country.

You can hold a vote - and I promise you the vast majority of people living there want to remain with China.

Many of these hypocrites who support kurdish separatism will no way give a separate state to their minorities.

True

You want the kurds to have a state give them one in China since china is fcking big.

Why? they are supposedly a Turkish, Syrian, Iraq and Iranian problem - and one shouldn't push ones own problem onto others.

 

[Jagdflieger]

....Stop seeing everything through what your government and media is feeding you. Be more open to realities.

Exactly, and be open to ideas that might solve a big problem peacefully.
I would certainly not agree to a separate Kurdish state within Turkey. But there is presently an opportunity to create such a place in Northern Syria.
Take it or leave it = literally.

 

[Manomed]

You can hold a vote - and I promise you the vast majority of people living there want to remain with China.

True

Why? they are supposedly a Turkish, Syrian, Iraq and Iranian problem - and one shouldn't push ones own problem onto others.

Also american and russian supplied YPG is responsible for cleansing those who wished not to support them These are being Turkmen and Arabs from Northern Syria. Kurds are having greater problems with their arab tribal population in n. Syria

 

[I_Love_F16]

So what is Erdogan waiting for ? Christmas ?

 

[Manomed]

So what is Erdogan waiting for ? Christmas ?

No for his alzheimer medication.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Why bring in all those negative examples - maybe Turkey could do better? even set an example?

I see your avatar displaying the union jack - wasn't it a great idea to give Ireland it's independence after 500 years of occupation and injustice? besides some usual European animosity amongst each other, I don't see any hatred or miss-givings between Brits and Irish folks nowadays unlike some 100 years and more ago.

Why not mind your own business?

Why keep involving yourselves in lands you have no business in?