TR U.S. says potential F-16 sale to Turkey would serve U.S. interests, NATO - letter

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I am afraid of TFX engine from US.
Since 12 years to now... present USA officials changed but OPENLY all of them SAID..................Turkiye should NOT be ALLOWED to be FREE and INDEPENDENT

Why people of Turkiye DO NOT UNDERSTAND the FACTS??!?!??!

Usa said many times Turkiye is Embargoed -> Politically, Economically, Military, Technological, Social (media keep creating false/lies stories for Turkiye)



I ask WHAT is CHANGED that Turk people here in forum Believe on LIES and BLA BLA WORDS which main source are usa Oficials SAYING of any meeting after they meet with Turkiye officials?

You saying you believe of this kind of Bullshits ??? if it is true I just Want to say "pity on poor and naive are such people. Nothing can be said or done for such people they are lost cause "
 

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It beggars belief that the US is set up in Incirlik like it’s their father’s house, yet we allow them to get away with these dirty lobbying games time and time again. Piss them off.
 

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"Very likely that Biden is gonna overrule "
Why he should?
When Biden OPENLY said that he is Against Turkiye and Erdogan
This is Perfect excuse for Biden to stretch........................F-16 deliver to many years (mean NOTHING for Turkiye)
Biden isn't the one running the show, pal.
 

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All of this stems from RTE immigrant policy with EU. Should have let them go to Greece and have used Greece as refugee camp country. They’d have more than enough to deal with that way.
 

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The other side of the coin is as follows in US.

I understand what this senator Saying.........But he is doing Logical speech and he is Asking....... It mean no power to change

Other party already DID it. Committee did NOT talk or ask.......... They Acted and that act is Official voted Document!
The document have POWER I mean it is legal enforcement by law
 

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Biden isn't the one running the show, pal.
Let me say it in other way

Biden + many senators + greece, armenian, israel lobbyist are against Turkyie. They ACT They have enough people to push Law enforcement documents against Turkiye.
I repeat in usa THERE ARE NO PARTY or ANY Opposition which have enough POWER to enforce support for Turkiye.


People here believe that miracle will happened
 

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Pappas Amendment Gives Biden Out to Sell Turkey F-16’s, Skirt Greece

WASHINGTON – A US Congressional amendment pushed by New Hampshire Democrat Chris Pappas aimed at preventing the sale of F-16 fighter jets to Turkey gives US President Joe Biden a way to get around it and get his way.

Biden wants the US to let Turkey buy the jets at the same time the US has said it supports Greece against provocations including Turkish fighter jets constantly violating Greek airspace.

Pappas and a team of other House members opposed to the sale got approval of the amendment barring it but Biden can get around any veto simply by stating it is in the US national interest.

That gives the President a chance to further swivel away from his alleged support of Greece as he did when he declared Saudi Arabia a “pariah” but went there despite the CIA saying Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud gave the order to slaughter Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi.

The other condition is that the jets couldn’t be used to violate Greek airspace but it wasn’t said how that could be enforced, although Congressional oversight is required and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan almost certain to rule that out. It would also have to pass the Senate.

The White House said that Turkey is a valuable ally despite buying Russian-made S-400 missile defense systems that undermine NATO – of which Turkey, Greece and the US are members – and could be used against Greece in a conflict.

The US also barred Turkey from buying more advanced F-35 fighter jets and didn’t explain the contradiction about why Turkey is an ally while buying defenses from a NATO enemy and would be rewarded with more F-16’s.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, who, in an address to the US Congress – without mentioning Turkey name – urged lawmakers to reject Biden’s plan has said he expects Turkey will get the F-16’s.


 

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Pappas Amendment Gives Biden Out to Sell Turkey F-16’s, Skirt Greece

WASHINGTON – A US Congressional amendment pushed by New Hampshire Democrat Chris Pappas aimed at preventing the sale of F-16 fighter jets to Turkey gives US President Joe Biden a way to get around it and get his way.

Biden wants the US to let Turkey buy the jets at the same time the US has said it supports Greece against provocations including Turkish fighter jets constantly violating Greek airspace.

Pappas and a team of other House members opposed to the sale got approval of the amendment barring it but Biden can get around any veto simply by stating it is in the US national interest.

That gives the President a chance to further swivel away from his alleged support of Greece as he did when he declared Saudi Arabia a “pariah” but went there despite the CIA saying Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud gave the order to slaughter Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi.

The other condition is that the jets couldn’t be used to violate Greek airspace but it wasn’t said how that could be enforced, although Congressional oversight is required and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan almost certain to rule that out. It would also have to pass the Senate.

The White House said that Turkey is a valuable ally despite buying Russian-made S-400 missile defense systems that undermine NATO – of which Turkey, Greece and the US are members – and could be used against Greece in a conflict.

The US also barred Turkey from buying more advanced F-35 fighter jets and didn’t explain the contradiction about why Turkey is an ally while buying defenses from a NATO enemy and would be rewarded with more F-16’s.

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, who, in an address to the US Congress – without mentioning Turkey name – urged lawmakers to reject Biden’s plan has said he expects Turkey will get the F-16’s.


sounds like its bound to pass, hence the tears.
 

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It is good that f16s selected for Viper were chosen from block-50+ and 40's. The Block-50s have been upgraded to CCIP and are equipped with a locally produced SPEWS-II EW. There are approximately ~73 Block-50s available and their MURAD AESA radar modernization may be in question with the remaining Block-40s in the future.
 

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