Morocco Algerian millitary bases near Morocco

[Knowledgeseeker]

Algerian millitary bases have increased a lot in the last years, and it shows their hostility that they have towards Morocco. Morocco has for the first time in modern Moroccan history created an eastern military district only this year after 60+ years in Moroccan Sahara. The new military zone is largely seen as a statement of intent meant to indicate Morocco’s readiness to confront any military provocations from its eastern neighbor.


The algerian military sites have been registered to be more then 100, and most of them are centered in the regions of the Far North, Bechar, Umm al-Assal and Tindouf, in addition to central Algeria. Most of the most important Algerian military bases, which are located near Morocco, expose their double standards and official discourses.


In this thread i will publish pictures of different military sites that have appeared on satellite images lately.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1578901856948228096

Away from the media and cameras, Algeria opened a new air base a few months ago on the outskirts of the Moroccan border in Umm al-Assal in the third military region, and the newly received MIG29M2 fighters appear on the base.



Then we have a base in Tindouf that consist of:

-V-750 missile launchers
-Soviet P-15 monitoring radar
- SNR-75 Fansong engagement radar





Then in lotfi in the third military region we have photos of one of the algerian air bases near M'Hamid El Ghizlane, 96 kilometers from the border with morocco . it seems, the new base will be adopted as an advanced base for Algerian helicopters and interceptor




Algeria has 6 airports close to the Moroccan border, 5 of which are in the Bechar and Tindouf district ( South):
- Ras El-Maa Airport, northeast of bechar
- Houari Boumediene Airport, south of Bashar
-Umm Al-Asal Airport
- tindouf airport
- Al-Mashriah
- Lotfi


Military sites are not necessarily large bases. There are trenches, bases, scattered ammunition depots, small sites, etc., but they are clustered in the same area, and they are four areas, namely, Tindouf, Umm al-Assal, Bashar and Ras al-Maa.





Algeria's intensification of its bases near the Moroccan border is mainly due to the weakness of its logistical fleet and the delivery of supplies by air. The location of many of their bases and airfields near our borders is not a choice, but rather due to the difficulty and lack of regular logistical capabilities.



Accumulating forces and bases on the borders means programming a quick and lightning war that aims to quickly seize some points and areas for the sake of propaganda, and the most important thing is sabotage and inflicting the greatest damage to infrastructure, cities, houses, roads, dams, etc. The border between us is approximately 1,500 km, and the southwest of present-day Algeria is vast and very far from the main railways and roads. Therefore, they have no ability to supply their forces by land. For this reason, their airfields and weapons stores are spread along the borders


The proximity of their bases to the border is a positive thing for Morocco. Morocco's warning will not need long-range ballistic missiles or aircraft to destroy them, only artillery and launchers in a sufficient number, because of the close proximity of under 50 km. With the long-range air defense systems that mrooccohave, most of the airports will become within the Moroccan defense umbrella.





What if Algeria invades from the tindouf- bechar region where most of these bases are present?

In the Moroccan desert, we have more than 400 advanced military sites that are protected by mines and trenches. The sand berm has a first-line defense sand wall, which often reaches 3 defensive lines behind it. The soldiers are armed with anti-vehicle missiles and anti-aircraft guns. Behind many of the different defense lines, morocco has other military points with "Rapid" support forces equipped with various weapons. The only option Algeria would have is to intervene against the areas of the Moroccan army in the desert and try to penetrate the defensive wall, which they have been training on for a long time.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

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[Saithan]

Any chances those bases are meant to show presence thus retain claim on that land.

e.g. Denmark needs to have dogsled patrol units in Greenland to travel to the farthest point to show presence lest Canada extends her claim.

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[Chakib.Y]

Any chances those bases are meant to show presence thus retain claim on that land.

e.g. Denmark needs to have dogsled patrol units in Greenland to travel to the farthest point to show presence lest Canada extends her claim.

Why Canada Keeps Leaving Bottles of Whiskey on a Remote Island

There’s a tiny little island waaaay up north, between Canada and Greenland that’s creating a big headache for Denmark and Canada. No…

medium.com

Yeap there's that and there's an insane drugs smuggling operations to stop, Morocco's a leading poppy producer, that harvest needs to go somewhere afterall.

 

[Nilgiri]

Any chances those bases are meant to show presence thus retain claim on that land.

e.g. Denmark needs to have dogsled patrol units in Greenland to travel to the farthest point to show presence lest Canada extends her claim.

Why Canada Keeps Leaving Bottles of Whiskey on a Remote Island

There’s a tiny little island waaaay up north, between Canada and Greenland that’s creating a big headache for Denmark and Canada. No…

medium.com

There are similar incongruencies between US and Canada in certain areas of the maritime border (and islands they involve).

But showing presence/visitation between allied/friendly countries is whole different matter in general. US for example announces NW passage missions in the relevant (internal NATO) channels to Canada (US does not consider these as internal water of Canada, but Canada does not bring up this issue anywhere else given the close alliance). I mean there is entire shared air defence network as well (NORAD).

Algeria and Morocco have a real hostility underlying all of these things (with the more amenable context between them) that make this quite unique and intense thing to them in the end.

In the end the particular detailed matters are known in complete enough way (as to what are the designs and nuances of the objectives, real and perceived) by those high enough in their respective military command structures.

We are not privy to that stuff (at the resolution) as more laypeople.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Algerian millitary bases have increased a lot in the last years, and it shows their hostility that they have towards Morocco. Morocco has for the first time in modern Moroccan history created an eastern military district only this year after 60+ years in Moroccan Sahara. The new military zone is largely seen as a statement of intent meant to indicate Morocco’s readiness to confront any military provocations from its eastern neighbor.


The algerian military sites have been registered to be more then 100, and most of them are centered in the regions of the Far North, Bechar, Umm al-Assal and Tindouf, in addition to central Algeria. Most of the most important Algerian military bases, which are located near Morocco, expose their double standards and official discourses.


In this thread i will publish pictures of different military sites that have appeared on satellite images lately.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1578901856948228096

View attachment 48604

Away from the media and cameras, Algeria opened a new air base a few months ago on the outskirts of the Moroccan border in Umm al-Assal in the third military region, and the newly received MIG29M2 fighters appear on the base.



Then we have a base in Tindouf that consist of:

-V-750 missile launchers
-Soviet P-15 monitoring radar
- SNR-75 Fansong engagement radar

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Then in lotfi in the third military region we have photos of one of the algerian air bases near M'Hamid El Ghizlane, 96 kilometers from the border with morocco . it seems, the new base will be adopted as an advanced base for Algerian helicopters and interceptor

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Algeria has 6 airports close to the Moroccan border, 5 of which are in the Bechar and Tindouf district ( South):
- Ras El-Maa Airport, northeast of bechar
- Houari Boumediene Airport, south of Bashar
-Umm Al-Asal Airport
- tindouf airport
- Al-Mashriah
- Lotfi


Military sites are not necessarily large bases. There are trenches, bases, scattered ammunition depots, small sites, etc., but they are clustered in the same area, and they are four areas, namely, Tindouf, Umm al-Assal, Bashar and Ras al-Maa.
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Algeria's intensification of its bases near the Moroccan border is mainly due to the weakness of its logistical fleet and the delivery of supplies by air. The location of many of their bases and airfields near our borders is not a choice, but rather due to the difficulty and lack of regular logistical capabilities.



Accumulating forces and bases on the borders means programming a quick and lightning war that aims to quickly seize some points and areas for the sake of propaganda, and the most important thing is sabotage and inflicting the greatest damage to infrastructure, cities, houses, roads, dams, etc. The border between us is approximately 1,500 km, and the southwest of present-day Algeria is vast and very far from the main railways and roads. Therefore, they have no ability to supply their forces by land. For this reason, their airfields and weapons stores are spread along the borders


The proximity of their bases to the border is a positive thing for Morocco. Morocco's warning will not need long-range ballistic missiles or aircraft to destroy them, only artillery and launchers in a sufficient number, because of the close proximity of under 50 km. With the long-range air defense systems that mrooccohave, most of the airports will become within the Moroccan defense umbrella.





What if Algeria invades from the tindouf- bechar region where most of these bases are present?

In the Moroccan desert, we have more than 400 advanced military sites that are protected by mines and trenches. The sand berm has a first-line defense sand wall, which often reaches 3 defensive lines behind it. The soldiers are armed with anti-vehicle missiles and anti-aircraft guns. Behind many of the different defense lines, morocco has other military points with "Rapid" support forces equipped with various weapons. The only option Algeria would have is to intervene against the areas of the Moroccan army in the desert and try to penetrate the defensive wall, which they have been training on for a long time.

Recent satellite images from google earth shows that construction work for the bases accommodating the Algerian S-300 air defense system has been completed, which means the missile batteries have entered service in the city of Tindouf. Construction work for the air defense bases began in 2019 and ended at the beginning of 2022.


Photo Before and after the first S-300 site

Before:

after:

The location of the S-300 launchers is known to be in the form of circles, and underground hangars to conceal them, an example of another site in Algiers:


Bechar and Tindouf regions have large military blocs, various air defense systems and electronic warfare systems. Algeria intensifies the military presence between Bechar and Tindouf because it knows very well that this region has no strategic depth, only hundreds of kilometers of empty deserts. In any war with them, the fall of this road between the two cities is inevitable and their leadership is aware of that.

 

[GoatsMilk]

So lets presume there was a war and the war was to conclude completely in favour of one nation over the other, what is either nation hoping to win from it?

And a separate question, does either nation anticipate in such a war how outside powers could manipulate the situation so that both sides lose?

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

So lets presume there was a war and the war was to conclude completely in favour of one nation over the other, what is either nation hoping to win from it?

And a separate question, does either nation anticipate in such a war how outside powers could manipulate the situation so that both sides lose?

Algeria always wanted to get access to the Sahara, and the Atlantic Ocean. Morocco would want to reclaim the land that they held pre-1880 colonization by France in the region of Tindouf, and bechar. Morocco actually captured the axis of tindouf-bechar in the 1963 war, but the french threatened us with war, while our supplier US did not want to supply us with weapons, because they taught we would be the losing side. ( according to CIA archives).

For your second question, I can't answer for the Algerians. The Moroccan monarchy is well aware of the hostility, and the tricks that the west plays with us, especially France. France is the main issue that causes instability in the north African region. When the former Moroccan king talked about Algeria he said we don't have an issue with them but the "Other" powers that control them. I don't see any war happening every time soon but it will when Morocco becomes much stronger militarily, and economically.

 

[Gary]

So lets presume there was a war and the war was to conclude completely in favour of one nation over the other, what is either nation hoping to win from it?

And a separate question, does either nation anticipate in such a war how outside powers could manipulate the situation so that both sides lose?

There are many reasons wars are opted than peace, but unless you're a global hegemon trying to keep the throneor a competing great power (eg. Germany in 1900s/Japan in the leading up to WW2) seeking to topple world order before it's too late, usually wars are pursued when one's political elite are threatened from the inside.

So they create external enemies to rally people around and deviate from the real problem. This is the case of Argentina in 1982, Iraq in 1990 and Indonesia in 1965-1967.

 

[Chakib.Y]

Algeria always wanted to get access to the Sahara, and the Atlantic Ocean. Morocco would want to reclaim the land that they held pre-1880 colonization by France in the region of Tindouf, and bechar. Morocco actually captured the axis of tindouf-bechar in the 1963 war, but the french threatened us with war, while our supplier US did not want to supply us with weapons, because they taught we would be the losing side. ( according to CIA archives).

For your second question, I can't answer for the Algerians. The Moroccan monarchy is well aware of the hostility, and the tricks that the west plays with us, especially France. France is the main issue that causes instability in the north African region. When the former Moroccan king talked about Algeria he said we don't have an issue with them but the "Other" powers that control them. I don't see any war happening every time soon but it will when Morocco becomes much stronger militarily, and economically.

1-algeria has no territorial claims over Western Sahara nor sovereignty related interest, Algeria has two principles guiding it's stance, first is idealistic concerning the backing of fair and just (and international law compliant) liberation movements and decolonialism, second would be strategic, since Morocco has a serious case of historical delusion mixed with irredentism it has a history of behaving like mad dog, attempting to Annex it's neighbours territories (whom they she'd blood and died for) whenever it had the chance, so they must be checked, and denied the exploitation and the precedence for pulling the same move again in the future, imho the backing of the SADR while it's lacking, is Algeria's best strategic defense policy so far because as far as we know Morocco never attempted to invade anyone (and reclaim it's claims) else eversince they got stuck there.
That being said. I'd appreciate (along with everyone here posting links or statements that backs your position regarding Algeria's interest in the annexation of Western Sahara's territories.

Side note: this is the chronology of events, just like with Algeria, Morocco waited for the people to die for their land then attempted to reclaim the benefits.

Chronology of Events

01 December 2017 The Secretary-General Appoints Colin Stewart of Canada Special Representative, Head, United Nations Mission for Referendum in Western Sahara 22 November 2017 The PESG Horst Kohler and the SRSG Kim Bolduc gave their berifing before the Security Council regarding the development...

minurso.unmissions.org

2-claiming that Algeria is the one who's strings are pulled by the French isn't only shameless it's blatant projection, it wasn't Algeria who had its flag and national anthem and pretty much its entire arsenal made by the French, that would be Morocco, unless you're trying to say that Algeria and Egypt (whom got bombed only 8 years prior by the French and neighboring an enemy who's also getting armed by the French) fighting on the same side. That being said, everyone here would appreciate it if you provided links and sources to back these claims, but I agree on your last point, Morocco always attempts to annex it's neighbors lands whenever it gets a comfortable edge over its neighbors (lack of a proper professional armies would be a start lol)

 

[Chakib.Y]

So lets presume there was a war and the war was to conclude completely in favour of one nation over the other, what is either nation hoping to win from it?

And a separate question, does either nation anticipate in such a war how outside powers could manipulate the situation so that both sides lose?

1-Algeria clearly lacks the population density to sustain an extended war effort towards the south without full mobilization of the northern population (where the majority is concentrated) which would seriously damage the economy, so an annexation attempt by Algeria is completely out of the question because it lacks the fundamentals for it (manpower density and proximity), imho Algeria would assume it's classical defensive role. Morocco on the other hand has a serious case of irredentism, having territorial claims over pretty half of west Africa.
You can check testimony here by John Bolton regarding this issue

Here you can find the full debate, pretty insightful and offers multiple POVs regarding the issue

2-the arms race clearly shows that both sides anticipates a war, how it would be exploited ? No one can tell, although there's potential for requesting concessions from Algeria regarding its foreign policy and alliances networks, energy sector related terms and policies favouring certain companies of certain countries etc... Regarding Morocco, can't honestly tell because m not versed with Moroccan strategic potentials.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

1-algeria has no territorial claims over Western Sahara nor sovereignty related interest, Algeria has two principles guiding it's stance, first is idealistic concerning the backing of fair and just (and international law compliant) liberation movements and decolonialism, second would be strategic, since Morocco has a serious case of historical delusion mixed with irredentism it has a history of behaving like mad dog, attempting to Annex it's neighbours territories (whom they she'd blood and died for) whenever it had the chance, so they must be checked, and denied the exploitation and the precedence for pulling the same move again in the future, imho the backing of the SADR while it's lacking, is Algeria's best strategic defense policy so far because as far as we know Morocco never attempted to invade anyone (and reclaim it's claims) else eversince they got stuck there.
That being said. I'd appreciate (along with everyone here posting links or statements that backs your position regarding Algeria's interest in the annexation of Western Sahara's territories.

Side note: this is the chronology of events, just like with Algeria, Morocco waited for the people to die for their land then attempted to reclaim the benefits.

Chronology of Events

01 December 2017 The Secretary-General Appoints Colin Stewart of Canada Special Representative, Head, United Nations Mission for Referendum in Western Sahara 22 November 2017 The PESG Horst Kohler and the SRSG Kim Bolduc gave their berifing before the Security Council regarding the development...

minurso.unmissions.org

2-claiming that Algeria is the one who's strings are pulled by the French isn't only shameless it's blatant projection, it wasn't Algeria who had its flag and national anthem and pretty much its entire arsenal made by the French, that would be Morocco, unless you're trying to say that Algeria and Egypt (whom got bombed only 8 years prior by the French and neighboring an enemy who's also getting armed by the French) fighting on the same side. That being said, everyone here would appreciate it if you provided links and sources to back these claims, but I agree on your last point, Morocco always attempts to annex it's neighbors lands whenever it gets a comfortable edge over its neighbors (lack of a proper professional armies would be a start lol)

The Algerian officials never made any claim publically that they want the Sahara but we all know the reason why Algeria have been backing the SADR for over 40+ years. I'm not even gonna respond to that point because it is useless but I will make a point so the majority of "Turkish" brothers understand me well. The Americans recognize pkk as a terrorist organization, but still, train them, and fund them with weapons until this day.

2. We saw in the past how our monarchy balanced the relations between east and the west. We still see this day the Moroccan position, and the tension taken place between Morocco and France. We can also see how well the relations are between Algeria, and france. Don't get me wrong I don't think most of people support this, but unfortunately, the Algerian military still holds the power from the times of the civil car that killed over 350 000 innocent Algerians in the name of "Terrorism". Morocco won all the wars and skirmishes without having a "Comfortable edge", and the Algerian leadership knows this well.

 

[Chakib.Y]

The Algerian officials never made any claim publically that they want the Sahara but we all know the reason why Algeria have been backing the SADR for over 40+ years. I'm not even gonna respond to that point because it is useless but I will make a point so the majority of "Turkish" brothers understand me well. The Americans recognize pkk as a terrorist organization, but still, train them, and fund them with weapons until this day.

2. We saw in the past how our monarchy balanced the relations between east and the west. We still see this day the Moroccan position, and the tension taken place between Morocco and France. We can also see how well the relations are between Algeria, and france. Don't get me wrong I don't think most of people support this, but unfortunately, the Algerian military still holds the power from the times of the civil car that killed over 350 000 innocent Algerians in the name of "Terrorism". Morocco won all the wars and skirmishes without having a "Comfortable edge", and the Algerian leadership knows this well.

1-if no Algerian official made that claim nor did it show in any Algerian governing institutions literature, then what are you basing your claim on ? Fan-fic? Cmon. As for the backing of the SADR, yeah I've made if plenty clear above, to check Morocco and stop it from attempting to annex others lands (especially our lands). That being said American support for the PKK (who have no UN chartered claim) only commonality with the SADR case Is the fact that neither backers wants to annex lands for themselves.


2-good for Morocco balancing it's relations (30%+ of foreign direct investments, at the top of investing entities for supposedly a country that that tries undermine you https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2022/07/350406/france-is-moroccos-largest-fdi-destination ) , Algeria's on the same track with the US and Turks and Chinese but I expected the French to be at least in the top 3 since they're the ones pulling our strings, they'd have a vested interest in securing their local investments here no ?
As for the civil war, it was a tragic event in our history and a shameful stain in the security apparatus history (not the army, but the intelligence, since if you knew the first thing about this country's history you'd know that as soon as nezzar was sacked the army institution was doing everything it could to reach a settlement and a peaceful end to violence led by the president zeroual (whom was a general)) and that was shown in the 2019, since the intelligence services were dissolved and absorbed into the army not a single gun was fired towards the protestors alhamdullillah. That being said I don't particularly understand where the history of Algeria's internal politics* factors in an argument regarding Morocco's historical behaviour in the region.

And someone who wins a war/skirmish gains land my guy, not lose it to the supposed loser. I can name you all the positions and lands Morocco had to evacuate post sands war, name me one position Algeria had to Morocco much less a similar amount of lands or posts.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

1-if no Algerian official made that claim nor did it show in any Algerian governing institutions literature, then what are you basing your claim on ? Fan-fic? Cmon. As for the backing of the SADR, yeah I've made if plenty clear above, to check Morocco and stop it from attempting to annex others lands (especially our lands). That being said American support for the PKK (who have no UN chartered claim) only commonality with the SADR case Is the fact that neither backers wants to annex lands for themselves.


2-good for Morocco balancing it's relations (30%+ of foreign direct investments, at the top of investing entities for supposedly a country that that tries undermine you https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2022/07/350406/france-is-moroccos-largest-fdi-destination ) , Algeria's on the same track with the US and Turks and Chinese but I expected the French to be at least in the top 3 since they're the ones pulling our strings, they'd have a vested interest in securing their local investments here no ?
As for the civil war, it was a tragic event in our history and a shameful stain in the security apparatus (not the army, but the intelligence, since if you knew the first thing about this country's history you'd know that as soon as nezzar was sacked the army institution was doing everything it could to reach a settlement and a peaceful end to violence led by the president zeroual (whom was a general)) and that was shown in the 2019, since the intelligence services were dissolved and absorbed into the army not a single gun was fired towards the protestors alhamdullillah. That being said I don't particularly understand where the history of Algeria factors in an argument regarding Morocco's historical behaviour in the region.

And someone who wins a war/skirmish gains land my guy, not lose it to the supposed loser. I can name you all the positions and lands Morocco had to evacuate post sands war, name me one position Algeria had to Morocco much less a similar amount of lands or posts.

It's not very hard to base my claim on it when Algeria is the main supporter. Algeria continues to claim to be merely an observer in a dispute it says “exists only between Polisario and Morocco.” Despite its well-documented historical involvement in the Sahara dispute, as evidenced by its logistical, financial, military, and administrative backing of the Polisario Front. I do agree with you that the Polisario was created to "Slow" down the development of morocco, and stop it from growing stronger.


I will not go too deep into the Algerian civil war, but in the early 90s the first democratically elected party in the history of Algeria got elected. The army, yes the military intervened, and it led to a brutal civil war that killed more than 350 000. I don't see any difference between the syrian bashar assad, and the algerian leadership. Don't let us forget that the west, and France supported the military during this time with diplomatic support, while the Arab counties in the east supported the party that won the elections. If you ask me I think the west, and especially France would not want the Algerians to have good relations with Morocco.

The same goes with the Algerian high council of state Mohammed boudiaf that got killed in 1992. He was a firm believer in good relations with its neighbor Morocco. Tell me why Morocco, and Algeria cant have good relations with each other. We all know its because of Sahara, and this has been the root of the problem, together with the land claims in west algeria.


This will be my final answer to you

 

[Chakib.Y]

It's not very hard to base my claim on it when Algeria is the main supporter. Algeria continues to claim to be merely an observer in a dispute it says “exists only between Polisario and Morocco.” Despite its well-documented historical involvement in the Sahara dispute, as evidenced by its logistical, financial, military, and administrative backing of the Polisario Front. I do agree with you that the Polisario was created to "Slow" down the development of morocco, and stop it from growing stronger.


I will not go too deep into the Algerian civil war, but in the early 90s the first democratically elected party in the history of Algeria got elected. The army, yes the military intervened, and it led to a brutal civil war that killed more than 350 000. I don't see any difference between the syrian bashar assad, and the algerian leadership. Don't let us forget that the west, and France supported the military during this time with diplomatic support, while the Arab counties in the east supported the party that won the elections. If you ask me I think the west, and especially France would not want the Algerians to have good relations with Morocco.

The same goes with the Algerian high council of state Mohammed boudiaf that got killed in 1992. He was a firm believer in good relations with its neighbor Morocco. Tell me why Morocco, and Algeria cant have good relations with each other. We all know its because of Sahara, and this has been the root of the problem, together with the land claims in west algeria.

1-being a supporter for an independence movement doesn't imply interest in territorial annexation, if anything it's contradictive to it. Again, provide a proof or concede.

Fyi: Algeria isn't the only backer, South Africa, Nigeria and Libya (in it's good days) are its biggest backers along with AU since SADR is a founding member.

2-correction: polisario front wasn't created to put Morocco's wild plans and ambitions in the region in check, because it was created in April 1973, Morocco waltzed in and declared it's interest in the land later afterwards (when the Spanish started packing, similar low blow to the sands war and the attempt on Mauritania). The BACKING of the polisario has an aspect of checking Morocco and reducing its threat to its surroundings. The chronological order of events was provided above from the minurso's website.

3-again irrelevant and the puchists included a faction from the army (nezzar and co) got sacked afterwards, it was mainly managed and led by Toufik (median) of the intelligence, you're not going to teach me my own country's history lol. Now as for the backers of the coup, nezzar and later Toufik literally had the Saudis support and were funded, the supporters of the Islamist militia included Iran and Qatar (this is all verifiable data, can provide links if requested). Such a bleeding heart for democracy and the Algerian people from an absolute monarchy weeping about the murder of an assigned (not elected) president (boudiaf) who opened detention centers in contaminated nuclear test sites. I'd highly recommend that you educate yourself around the topics you have limited knowledge of before engaging in debates concerning them (let alone derail it from its original purpose just to gain the sympathies of third parties).

4-aaall of boudiafs sins are forgiven just because of his geopolitical ignorance that is on par with high treason from the Algerian perspective (ceding land brave men died to liberate) ? This isn't only an extremely reductionist and ill informed stance at best, it's a proverbial kick in the balls of objectivity.

Commit to a position and the argument and provide proofs when requested else this would be a waste of time for either parties.