TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Oublious]

The engines were integrated into the National Combat Aircraft prototype!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1607373732850577409

Anil Sahin says no and now yes?

 

[Khagan1923]

Anil Sahin says no and now yes?

He denied the engines having been fired up. Also that was yesterday. So most likely today integration was finished and they will fire the engines up over the next few days.

 

[Baris]

Maybe Mr. Ibrahim meant that engines were tested on their own, before integration.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

I dont like the space between intake and fuselage. Doesnt look smooth.

Google "boundary layer". There are many sources that explain it.

 

[CAN_TR]

I dont like the space between intake and fuselage. Doesnt look smooth.

The "space" between fuselage and air intakes is called "Boundary Layer Diverter" as above mentioned it makes sure you get clean non turbulent airflow into the intakes.

 

[Kedikesenfare]

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Imagine it's a dummy and not the actual plane made to impress the high ranking visitors that day, lmao.

 

[Tsenal]

Actually, i expected somebody to mention it but seems like nobody gave attention, Turkiye already has the ram type of material, but contrary to the US, Turkiye wants to add this into the composite material, other than as paint, so nobody could find what is in it.. thats why, Turkish 5th generation jets are made of composite as a whole but US and others are made of metal.
i believe US specially developed it as a coating to make everybody depend on itself, as countries change side every time. Actually, Turkiye also wants to do the same, but in reality, they will not need it for themselves but for export

F-35 uses carbon fiber reinforced polymer composites for most of its skin which has radar absorbing qualities. It uses very little metal materials.

 

[Khagan1923]

I don't have extensive knowledge about this but does DSI not severly limit the topspeed of the plane?

As such is it not a "oh why did we go with an inferior option" and more a "We choose the option which fits the requirements set by the Air Force". ?

 

[Radonsider]

I don't have extensive knowledge about this but does DSI not severly limit the topspeed of the plane?

As such is it not a "oh why did we go with an inferior option" and more a "We choose the option which fits the requirements set by the Air Force". ?

You are right

 

[Boz]

The problem is that it makes the TF-X's stealth serrations look like they were cut in a garage

1. The original picture is low resolution and the quality is garbage.

And now the media will pick up this misleading picture (I've already seen it used on a defence news site) and think it's a real photo and talk shit about the TF-X's "poor" construction quality.

Upscales are misleading and should be banned from this forum.

2. You are conveniently ignoring that I literally showed you the exact same angle from the 'original' picture, to make it crystal clear to you that there is nothing wrong with the upscale, and that what you are trying to point out about the upscale is outright false.

What is the problem??

Same angle from the 'original', notice the watermark.
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3. Click on my previous reply to see the picture of the 'comparison'.

 

[Ripley]

The problem is that it makes the TF-X's stealth serrations look like they were cut in a garage in Iran. And now the media will pick up this misleading picture (I've already seen it used on a defence news site) and think it's a real photo and talk shit about the TF-X's "poor" construction quality.

Upscales are misleading and should be banned from this forum.

well, every Turkish defense project according to national media, either is poor quality or the Turks are the only and first ones did the damn thing in whole wide world. I don’t care as they are a bunch ignoramus who don’t know jack.
And similarly for foreign mainstream media, together with social media pundits, those projects either reverse engineered or simply rip off or horribly poor quality watered down imitation. And most of the time they do it intentionally unlike our national media.
So, in any cases they’re either crap or out of this world magnificent.

In both cases, however, I learned to find satisfaction based on the fact that these projects are very very real and we are doing an extra ordinary job. Our win, their loss. The rest, for me, is blah blah.

Remember the saying and relax bro.
“İt ürür kervan yürür“ (the caravan keeps moving on while dogs bark at behind its back)

 

[MADDOG]

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Side weapon bay already present? Or are my eyes playing a trick on me.

Honestly I estimate if all tests go smoothly hopefully we will see this beauty in LRIP way earlier than the estimates made by officials.

For sure they are.

 

[Radonsider]

I made a joke here but apparently some foreign media outlets are describing this as another mock-up likely prepared to convince a potential foreign investor, hence, the ammunition on the ground and the whole presentation around the bird.

Therefore it's not a 'leak' from the original prototype, in fact, they deliberately released this pic.

All this extra trouble has been made for the visiting delegation including this new and 'more convincing mock-up'.

It does make sense a little and it could explain the confusion about the engine being tested.

Also, I've read that the differences between this bird and the original mockup are too obvious.

Don't hate on me, I'm just asking. Is this a BS claim?

Well, I am yet to see a mockup that uses real BMI/Graphene composites, real radome, and yeah real everything

No, it is just them coping, prototype is in a phase where we can just show it to potential customers, ammunition on ground is simply to demonstrate

 

[Kedikesenfare]

guys, check this out:

Πρώτη εικόνα από το τουρκικό μαχητικό TF-X ή ακόμη ένα πρόπλασμα; - Πτήση

Κυκλοφόρησε από το τουρκικό site Airturkhaber.com η παραπάνω εικόνα όπου υποτίθεται φαίνεται για πρώτη φορά το τουρκικό μαχητικό TF-X σε φάση τελικής συναρμολόγησης. Δεν μπορούμε να επιβεβαιώσουμε το τι φαίνεται αλλά κατά την άποψη μας πρέπει να είναι ένα πρόπλασμα και όχι το κανονικό...

www.ptisidiastima.com

In a nutshell for those who don't want to waste their mobile-net on Grek shit:
-Hey look, it should be a dummy aircraft
-Aircraft is actually supported on tripods so these landing gears are fake! As you see this in 900 pixel photo(I am an expert and I see for you, don't worry) no relation to the robustness and complexity of normal aircraft.
-Look at these tiny air ducts and small-span, assuming they each have to feed a 10-ton thrust engine thats impossible. (I've already analyzed it with my dad's home supercomputer)
-This was not the prototype shown in November. So this is not realistic, I assure you.
-I'm not crying, just got dust in my eyes. But yeah, I have already managed to upscale this photo with the optical effect created by the tears, and evaluated within my great and unmatched wisdom, please don't question my degree, I have 4k hours in-game time in DCS.

So, it's safe to say that this is indeed the prototype we saw a few weeks back?

 

[Radonsider]

So, it's safe to say that this is indeed the prototype we saw a few weeks back?

Yes

 

[Era_shield]

2. You are conveniently ignoring that I literally showed you the exact same angle from the 'original' picture, to make it crystal clear to you that there is nothing wrong with the upscale, and that what you are trying to point out about the upscale is outright false.

I already pointed out that in your upscale, and only in your upscale, the serrated joins look like sh*t.

The extra detail added by AI upscaled images is false. AI upscaled images can't be used to see a military prototype clearer or with more detail.

 

[Combat-Master]

1. The original picture is low resolution and the quality is garbage.

2. You are conveniently ignoring that I literally showed you the exact same angle from the 'original' picture, to make it crystal clear to you that there is nothing wrong with the upscale, and that what you are trying to point out about the upscale is outright false.

3. Click on my previous reply to see the picture of the 'comparison'.
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Thank you for the effort and time it took to produce an upscaled and cleaner version of that image.

 

[Boz]

Thank you for the effort and time it took to produce an upscaled and cleaner version of that image.

My absolute pleasure

Here is my final version that is slightly color corrected:

 

[GoatsMilk]

Its also worth keeping in mind whoever you are in this world that Turkey succeeding in this project will also benefit you. Why? Because with a Turkish option out on the market it makes the alternatives cheaper and easier to obtain and if they won't sell you it well the Turkish option is also there. Turkish drones pretty much democratised drone warfare for the rest of the world, china also played a smaller role in this to a degree to.

The entire world benefits from this project really. Its a bit like when Turkey got kicked out of F35, if there was another few options out there it wouldn't be an issue. But i suspect with real options out there the americans wouldn't have kicked Turkey out.

 

[Combat-Master]

BNA, a defense and aviation company operating as a partnership between Nurol Holding and British BAE Systems, will change its partnership structure. With the transfer of 49% of BAE Systems' shares to Nurol Holding, the company will continue as Nurol Control and Avionics Systems with 100% Turkish capital. Eray Gökalp, CEO of Nurol Control and Avionics Systems, spoke about the advantages of the company's new structure and ongoing and planned projects. Gökalp emphasized that the capacity needs of both Turkey's rapidly developing new generation aviation technologies and foreign new generation aviation programs initiated with high value-added by BAE Systems have made it necessary for both partners to revisit their focus in order to be more effective in the sector.

"We are currently in the process of delivering the first products to TUSAŞ as part of the development of avionic control panels for the Hürjet program. In the scope of the National Combat Aircraft Program, we have provided fuel systems engineering support to TUSAŞ and our expert engineering support for avionic systems is ongoing. We are aiming to participate in the localization projects for fuel system units. We have various offers. We hope to see the results of our increasing efforts to participate in and add value to aviation programs in our country in the near future."

Tümüyle yerli sermayeye dönüştü, ilk işi Hürjet ve MMU olacak

Havacılık ve savunma sanayisine Türk-İngiliz ortaklı olarak katkı sağlayan BNA, yola yüzde 100 Türk sermayeli Nurol Kontrol ve Aviyonik Sistemleri olarak devam edecek. - Anadolu Ajansı

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