TR Air Defence Programs

[TR_123456]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2030919117142736951

Anyone know if this is true?

Why wouldnt it be?
Not about the source but logic says it shouldnt be a problem if you have produced a complete system already(last year).

 

[Pokemonte13]

Why wouldnt it be?
Not about the source but logic says it shouldnt be a problem if you have produced a complete system already(last year).

I mean the overall volume.
In 2023-2024 we received the first prototype battery.
In 2025 we received one in September and one in December.
Im questioning if they can increase their production that fast.
That doesn't even include the normal alp radars under contract for which at least two dozen are being planned( i don't know if they ordered so many i'm guessing).

 

[TR_123456]

I mean the overall volume.
In 2023-2024 we received the first prototype battery.
In 2025 we received one in September and one in December.
Im questioning if they can increase their production that fast.
That doesn't even include the normal alp radars under contract for which at least two dozen are being planned( i don't know if they ordered so many i'm guessing).

Then we will have to wait and see if they can.

 

[hugh]

can someone explain how can Siper block 2 missile be bigger than SM-3 block1 missile and have only 150km+ range while the SM-3 has over 1000km range? is it the guidance or something? or maybe SM-3 having no payload(hit-to-kill) has a huge advantage? because propulsion efficiency cannot explain such discrepancy.

 

[YusufKnight]

can someone explain how can Siper block 2 missile be bigger than SM-3 block1 missile and have only 150km+ range while the SM-3 has over 1000km range? is it the guidance or something? or maybe SM-3 having no payload(hit-to-kill) has a huge advantage? because propulsion efficiency cannot explain such discrepancy.

I think because Siper is single stage while SM3 has 3 stages

 

[Pokemonte13]

can someone explain how can Siper block 2 missile be bigger than SM-3 block1 missile and have only 150km+ range while the SM-3 has over 1000km range? is it the guidance or something? or maybe SM-3 having no payload(hit-to-kill) has a huge advantage? because propulsion efficiency cannot explain such discrepancy.

It has to do with the payload. SM3 has basically two main components the rocket and the kill vehicle. The rocket transports the kill vehicle outside the atmosphere and the kill vehicle can move freely with very little propelent to hit its target because their is no air resistance and gravity. Siper block 2 is much similar to PAC 2 and SM6 (without the booster).

 

[begturan]

can someone explain how can Siper block 2 missile be bigger than SM-3 block1 missile and have only 150km+ range while the SM-3 has over 1000km range? is it the guidance or something? or maybe SM-3 having no payload(hit-to-kill) has a huge advantage? because propulsion efficiency cannot explain such discrepancy.

I dont think its range limited with 150 km, Turkish defence industry allways follow this way, they initially say it has a short range, but then they extend the range a few times later.

 

[Saithan]

Türkiye deploys Patriot system after Iran missile incursions - Türkiye News

Türkiye has said that a Patriot air defense system was deployed in eastern Anatolia for the protection of its airspace following the second ballistic missile launched from Iran.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

NATO is deploying PAC, so the headline is wrong, since Türkiye doesn't have any PAC.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Will Siper Block 3 be ready before Akkuyu Nuclear Power Plant comes online? If not, which Air defense systems will Türkiye use?

 

[Pokemonte13]

Will Siper Block 3 be ready before Akkuyu Nuclear Power Plant comes online? If not, which Air defense systems will Türkiye use?

According to aselsan brochure ABM capacity will be available in 2028 but most likely it will be in 2029 if not later and akkuyu will start next year i believe.

 

[Ahlatshah]

Will Siper Block 3 be ready before Akkuyu Nuclear Power Plant comes online? If not, which Air defense systems will Türkiye use?

There is nuclear fuel which is already installed in Akkuyu. That makes Akkuyu a nuclear installation.

Since the Akkuyu has become nuclear installation, attacking it gives us right to attack "their" nuclear installation. We have capability to do that with our penetrator bombs. So it is not about it actually. It is online or not. As far as war is concerned, attacking a nuclear installation is a war crime. In that case I would use directly the nuclear bomb, why bother with it?

Also, Akkuyu does not belong to us TBH. It belongs to the Russians. We will be buying electricity from them. Israel can not attack for some reasons to a Russian entity. They bombed everywhere in Iran in two wars, but not Bushehr nuke reactor

Regardless, lack of air defence systems is one of the problems that hurts us the most though

https://akkuyu.com/tr/news/akkuyu-ngs-ye-lk-part-n-kleer-yakit-tesl-m-ed-ld