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[Nilgiri]

John Cook was tried and found guilty of high treason for his part in the trial of King Charles I. He was hanged, drawn and quartered with the radical preacher Hugh Peters and another of the regicides on 16 October 1660. Shortly before his death, aged 52, Cook wrote to his wife Mary:

"We fought for the public good and would have enfranchised the people and secured the welfare of the whole groaning creation, if the nation had not more delighted in servitude than in freedom."

This shows that masses are prisoners to their masters and can't be reasoned to achieve free will @Nilgiri After the death of cromwell and other prominent republicans died charles the second took over the country without an ease because the masses who fought against his father because of tyranny-murders-treason didn't fought against him.

People here attacked me for being against the sultan the monarchy I don't want anyone to violate my privilage.

Masses should be educated against these matters

The British monarchy (post Rome-Saxon-Viking-Norman "dark age" turbulence) never faced the serious challenges that Continental Europe did (and Turkiye even more so given its geography location).

This is largely due to Britain being an Island.

There was one major succession crisis dynasty war (War of the Roses), and that was about it.

In fact the concept of monarchy was more important than it being British per se (as illustrated by William of Orange episode).

Where I'm going with this was it was really the grave territorial losses the Ottoman empire faced (that Britain never did with regards to its home island) that brought about the massive decline in the Sultan role in Turkish perception. Hence the seeds of a republic were sown that the great Ataturk would bring to fruition.

That is also why Cromwell (seen as a radical compared to say Fairfax) and co (like John Cook) were unable to have the fire "catch" w.r.t having a non-monarchy given vast undercurrent for the institution they had facing them at that moment (England and Britain just had not faced what the Ottomans would face later in 19th and 20th century).

Retribution was in the eye for an eye format afterwards with much popular support.

Fairfax in comparison was recognised to not have gone after the King's neck, just wanted an increase of parliamentary power in the system which was granted over time in its particular unique British way....and so Fairfax was held in pretty high repute in the restoration period.

Cromwell head (his body was exhumed and decapitated in a "posthumous execution") would sit on a pike and then a giblet for 100s of years till it was interred in the 20th century sometime iirc.

The movie about him is pretty good..... it has Obi Wan Kenobi and Dumbledore in earlier roles of King (Charles) and Cromwell

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643355952828256256

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1642492012195610624

Ülke genelinde bütün muhalifler sahte bir video ile işletilmiş. Trollenmiş.

 

[Ryder]

ATILDIN!

I miss these guys

 

[Ryder]

The British monarchy (post Rome-Saxon-Viking-Norman "dark age" turbulence) never faced the serious challenges that Continental Europe did (and Turkiye even more so given its geography location).

This is largely due to Britain being an Island.

There was one major succession crisis dynasty war (War of the Roses), and that was about it.

In fact the concept of monarchy was more important than it being British per se (as illustrated by William of Orange episode).

Where I'm going with this was it was really the grave territorial losses the Ottoman empire faced (that Britain never did with regards to its home island) that brought about the massive decline in the Sultan role in Turkish perception. Hence the seeds of a republic were sown that the great Ataturk would bring to fruition.

That is also why Cromwell (seen as a radical compared to say Fairfax) and co (like John Cook) were unable to have the fire "catch" w.r.t having a non-monarchy given vast undercurrent for the institution they had facing them at that moment (England and Britain just had not faced what the Ottomans would face later in 19th and 20th century).

Retribution was in the eye for an eye format afterwards with much popular support.

Fairfax in comparison was recognised to not have gone after the King's neck, just wanted an increase of parliamentary power in the system which was granted over time in its particular unique British way....and so Fairfax was held in pretty high repute in the restoration period.

Cromwell head (his body was exhumed and decapitated in a "posthumous execution") would sit on a pike and then a giblet for 100s of years till it was interred in the 20th century sometime iirc.

The movie about him is pretty good..... it has Obi Wan Kenobi and Dumbledore in earlier roles of King (Charles) and Cromwell

Overthrows a monarchy for being dictatorial and tyrannical becomes a dictator himself.

Same story with Lenin. Not to say monarchy is good but numerous examples of monarchies being overthrown and a single man ruling which is no different to a monarchy itself best example is North Korea.

Humans and their lust for power.

 

[Saithan]

Manila aksama karakol gemisindeyim arkadaslar. Resim cekme izni var sa paylasirim

 

[Era_shield]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1643355952828256256

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1642492012195610624

Ülke genelinde bütün muhalifler sahte bir video ile işletilmiş. Trollenmiş.

Protip: the best way to tell a fake video like this is the way the camera moves. Even with stabilisation, a real person's hand moves in a particular way, with inertia, that takes a lot of talent to replicate. Even in movies with CGI they still get this wrong constantly.

 

[Bozan]

''As a Kurd, Karen’s life has been shaped by political tension, civil war and economic crises. Her passion is to become more involved in helping other refugees. For her Rise project, Karen sought to improve the wellbeing of fellow refugees by designing a booklet about immigrants who made a difference; delivering a speech at a local commerce meeting and informing immigrant students about their rights; translating English articles to Kurdish and Turkish for the city library; and teaching Turkish to Syrian immigrants after school.''

So,what does fellow refugees mean to you?
Doesnt it show you that she is from a refugee family which explain the ''civil war'' statement?
How can a PKK supporting Kurd be pro immigration?
Dont politicize everything.

Btw,why would Hurriyet Daily make terrorist propaganda?

She published this

bianet:

m.bianet.org

 

[Ryder]

She's a PKK supporting Kurd pro immigration

"As a Kurd, Karen’s life has been shaped by political tension, civil war and economic crises."

What civil war she says PKK fight is civil war

Gul Karen Aca

<p>Gul Karen works with like-minded peers and professionals in their fields to equalize science access, decrease migration-related marginalization, and activate interest in brain science. For her Rise project, Karen sought to support refugee integration by leading a team of psychologists and...

www.risefortheworld.org

Also

bianet:

m.bianet.org

Not to mention they have Turkish citizenship.

 

[TR_123456]

She published this

bianet:

m.bianet.org

Its on the border but ill give it to you.
There is no Turkish-Kurdish issue.
Check your alerts.

 

[YeşilVatan]

I got banned on Reddit again because I said female PKK terrorists had donkey STDs.

Free speech is dead

 

[Asena_great]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1642261794499461126

remember behind their shield of Islamism or humanism there is always anti turkist racism

 

[Manomed The Second]

She published this

bianet:

m.bianet.org

I've never seen any race so hungry for slight attention by anyone

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1642261794499461126

remember behind their shield of Islamism or humanism there is always anti turkist racism

Anatolianism ideology i use to argue with them a lot.

All they ever believed how they were descended from Ancient Antaolians how they related they were to Greeks this and that how the Turks of Turkiye barely have any Turkic dna how the Turks are conquerors who should be kicked out.

Anatolianism is just a dead belief full of cope.

If they hate Turks so much then they should stop speaking Turkish start to learn Hititite oh I forgot that language is dead while most Ancient Anatolians died off.

Ancient Anatolians are not worthy of Anadolu if they got themselves conquered by so many.

Turks are the true owners of Anatolia the rest is either cope or seethe.

 

[Saithan]

What a beauty.

 

[Ryder]

Who has been playing the Resident evil 4 remake.

I say its better than the 2005 one because this one is more dark, eerie and horrifying.

Also the girl is not annoying.

 

[Manomed The Second]

Anatolianism ideology i use to argue with them a lot.

All they ever believed how they were descended from Ancient Antaolians how they related they were to Greeks this and that how the Turks of Turkiye barely have any Turkic dna how the Turks are conquerors who should be kicked out.

Anatolianism is just a dead belief full of cope.

If they hate Turks so much then they should stop speaking Turkish start to learn Hititite oh I forgot that language is dead while most Ancient Anatolians died off.

Ancient Anatolians are not worthy of Anadolu if they got themselves conquered by so many.

Turks are the true owners of Anatolia the rest is either cope or seethe.

I have dna folder just for those people who say that Anatolian turks are not turks

 

[Heartbang]

I got banned on Reddit again because I said female PKK terrorists had donkey STDs.

Free speech is dead

the stake of truth rarely arrives lubed.

 

[Ryder]

I have dna folder just for those people who say that Anatolian turks are not turks

Dna is the most ridiculous bs.

Nobody is pure on this planet.

Who cares if your dna is mixed your identity comes from your culture, religion, values, customs and history.

Greeks, Armenians and Kurds are just as mixed.

Greeks and Armenians cant claim continuity to their ancient ancestors no matter what they claim.

Fun fact the reason why Western Europeans supportes the Greek independance war because they believe Greece would become like Ancient Greece only to realise Greeks have more in common with Byzantines rather than ancient Greeks not to mention how they called themselves Greeks of Roman citizenship.

 

[Manomed The Second]

Dna is the most ridiculous bs.

Nobody is pure on this planet.

Who cares if your dna is mixed ypur identity comes from your culture, religion, values, customs and history.

Greeks, Armenians and Kurds Rlare just as mixed.

Greeks and Armenians cant claim continuity to their ancient ancestors no matter what they claim.

Fun fact the reason why Western Europeans supportes the Greek independance war because they believe Greece would become like Ancient Greece only to realise Greeks have more in common with Byzantines rather than ancient Greeks not to mention how they called themselves Greeks of Roman citizenship.

Greeks are mostly slavs and lower parts are closer to northern africans for some reason.

 

[Ryder]

Greeks are mostly slavs and lower parts are closer to northern africans for some reason.

Not to mention their founding fathers of modern greece were all Avranites aka Orthodox Albanian Christians who lived in Greece