TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

[Anastasius]

Making it to the news is one thing, but all the graphical videos - are they necessary ?

If a group wanted to demoralise a population, I'd keep putting these videos everywhere on social media.

Graphic Violence, murder, crime, blood

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686015079341260802

No offense bud but is this your first time on the Internet or something? Videos of violent encounters going down have been around for years. And frankly I'd rather have news media post direct proof of what has gone down than trying to BS me with some mealy-mouthed "interpretation" of what went down.

I don't consider it demoralization, I consider it information. You have a very poor opinion of your fellow countrymen if you think that in an age of violent media being only a few keyboard strokes away for your average teenager this will qualify as "demoralization".

 

[Bozan]

No offense bud but is this your first time on the Internet or something? Videos of violent encounters going down have been around for years. And frankly I'd rather have news media post direct proof of what has gone down than trying to BS me with some mealy-mouthed "interpretation" of what went down.

I don't consider it demoralization, I consider it information. You have a very poor opinion of your fellow countrymen if you think that in an age of violent media being only a few keyboard strokes away for your average teenager this will qualify as "demoralization".

What I mean is in the EU news media can't post violent footage of murder on the news sites and share it on social media also.

It does have an effect actually, there's lots of research on it on Google scholar

Also we have an entire directorate of communications, so the conspiracy is maybe constant exposure to violent media and using fear is part of the elections plan

Also speech is already censored anyway. Lots of things are censored, but not violence. It's not normal.

"Yemeni child hospitalised after crowd lynching"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686192319370862593

Culture of violence makes for hit TV in Turkey

Sefer Calinak killed his first wife when he was 17 and murdered his girlfriend a few decades later with an axe. Now, the 62-year old is making the rounds on hit Turkish TV shows, part of a ratings race increasingly driven by a thirst for violence.

www.reuters.com

 

[fushkee]

There is no law except wild rules in the country. No punishment, no judgement...

 

[Heartbang]

Put the wrath of the almighty kayyum to Disney Türkiye NOW! #boycottdisney

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686298375157637120

 

[Anastasius]

What I mean is in the EU news media can't post violent footage of murder on the news sites and share it on social media also.

It does have an effect actually, there's lots of research on it on Google scholar

EU does a lot of stupid things, doesn't mean you must follow them.

You might be confusing demoralization with desensitization.

Put the wrath of the almighty kayyum to Disney Türkiye NOW! #boycottdisney

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686298375157637120

Disney is run by crazy ideologues nowadays but I suspect this has more to do with their increasingly awful financial situation. A lot of Disney projects have been cancelled recently and frankly an Ataturk series by Disney has always seemed an odd proposal to me. They don't do heavy history like that.

 

[Xenon54]

Put the wrath of the almighty kayyum to Disney Türkiye NOW! #boycottdisney

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686298375157637120

Disney is a shit show, maybe its better if they dont make a series about Atatürk.
Who cares what they have to say about Turkish nation anyways? If we still seek confirmation by outsiders then maybe we still didnt fully understand Atatürk anyways.

 

[Heartbang]

Disney is run by crazy ideologues nowadays but I suspect this has more to do with their increasingly awful financial situation. A lot of Disney projects have been cancelled recently and frankly an Ataturk series by Disney has always seemed an odd proposal to me. They don't do heavy history like that.

This isn't financial pressure, this is Armenian pressure. Economic situation is merely a convenient excuse.
We must teach these fools messing with Turkish has more dire consequences. Here's what the Turkish state can do to facilitate just that:

1. Immediate cancellation of all Disney-related broadcast licenses (FOX, D+, etc.) [Jurisdiction of RTUK]
2. Bringing of the almighty kayyum to all local subsidiaries of Disney and Disney related companies and seize-liquidate their assets [Jurisdiction of the President]
3. Ordering the banks to stop processing payments going towards Disney inc. [jurisdiction of BDDK]
4. Seizure and destruction of all Disney merchandise in the customs and on the open market(preferably in the public) [Jurisdiction of the Ministry of Trade and local law enforcement(zabıta)]
5. Opening of suits for damages to the Turkish people and issuing of arrest warrants to all senior executive members of the Disney Inc. [Jurisdiction of the Ministry of Law]
6. And many more steps that i currently don't recall...

These will ensure that everyone knows the Turks do not fuck around and will bring a swift end to any further transgressions.

 

[Bozan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686329874699423744

Hahahahahaha

 

[Sanchez]

Watch that idiot be expelled, should be funny.

Website seems to be taking its time loading up when checking notifications and posting. I also had a cloudflare error yesterday. Server issues or on my end? Attack?

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Watch that idiot be expelled, should be funny.

Website seems to be taking its time loading up when checking notifications and posting. I also had a cloudflare error yesterday. Server issues or on my end? Attack?

Same here.

 

[Heartbang]

Website seems to be taking its time loading up when checking notifications and posting. I also had a cloudflare error yesterday. Server issues or on my end? Attack?

Same

 

[Heartbang]

This isn't financial pressure, this is Armenian pressure. Economic situation is merely a convenient excuse.
We must teach these fools messing with Turkish has more dire consequences. Here's what the Turkish state can do to facilitate just that:

1. Immediate cancellation of all Disney-related broadcast licenses (FOX, D+, etc.) [Jurisdiction of RTUK]
2. Bringing of the almighty kayyum to all local subsidiaries of Disney and Disney related companies and seize-liquidate their assets [Jurisdiction of the President]
3. Ordering the banks to stop processing payments going towards Disney inc. [jurisdiction of BDDK]
4. Seizure and destruction of all Disney merchandise in the customs and on the open market(preferably in the public) [Jurisdiction of the Ministry of Trade and local law enforcement(zabıta)]
5. Opening of suits for damages to the Turkish people and issuing of arrest warrants to all senior executive members of the Disney Inc. [Jurisdiction of the Ministry of Law]
6. And many more steps that i currently don't recall...

These will ensure that everyone knows the Turks do not fuck around and will bring a swift end to any further transgressions.

I reached out to CIMER and relayed these steps to them in order to cut the lifeline from our motherland to those evil corpo rats. I urge every patriot in these forums to do the same.

 

[Bürküt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686449609021734926

"Candaş Tolga Işık: Hakan Fidan and İbrahim Kalın were personally involved in the process. Tomorrow, Disney will make a statement."

We are tired of these damn parasyte as a nation.Either Disney takes a step back and this diaspora gets the answer it needs or the idiots who run this platform pay the price of pissing off 85 million for 3 million racist peyser.

 

[Ryder]

Keep disney away from my history.

What they will turn Ataturk into a Trans Mexican Chinese all for diversity.

Forget it. Honestly Turkish cinema and Turkish sitcoms also suck.

Honestly Osman and Ertugurl shows are a disgrace to my ancestors.

How about the love shows all cliche bullshit.

Who wastes 2 hours of their time on this crap. Dont tell me videogames are a time waster or playing chess. Id rather do them than watching 2 hours of repetitive crap.

Even if these sitcoms bring in money for Turkiye and increase soft power. They just suck lets be honest.

I use to laugh at Cuneyt Arkins films now I realised what a great actor he was and his movies had much more meaning than todays crap.

 

[Ryder]

Biggest farce is how the Ertugurl show believes they worked with historians.

In history nobody used two swords or did stupid fancy moves.

Osman show even puts vikings. Closest thing the Ottomans got to fighting vikings were the Varangian guards of the Eastern Roman Empire. By then the viking age already ended most Norse people actually became their own kingdoms like Denmark, Norway, Sweden.

Even if the Turks did fight Norseman most likely would be Mercs even then they did not dress like vikings neither did they worship norse gods.

Honestly i know its for entertainment but nobody should tell me that these shows work with historians.

They could actually hire historical renactors to actually replicate real fighting scenes but nah they need stars in the show because we all worship celebrities.

 

[B_A]

Biggest farce is how the Ertugurl show believes they worked with historians.

In history nobody used two swords or did stupid fancy moves.

Osman show even puts vikings. Closest thing the Ottomans got to fighting vikings were the Varangian guards of the Eastern Roman Empire. By then the viking age already ended most Norse people actually became their own kingdoms like Denmark, Norway, Sweden.

Even if the Turks did fight Norseman most likely would be Mercs even then they did not dress like vikings neither did they worship norse gods.

Honestly i know its for entertainment but nobody should tell me that these shows work with historians.

They could actually hire historical renactors to actually replicate real fighting scenes but nah they need stars in the show because we all worship celebrities.

Biggest farce is how the Ertugurl show believes they worked with historians.

In history nobody used two swords or did stupid fancy moves.

Osman show even puts vikings. Closest thing the Ottomans got to fighting vikings were the Varangian guards of the Eastern Roman Empire. By then the viking age already ended most Norse people actually became their own kingdoms like Denmark, Norway, Sweden.

Even if the Turks did fight Norseman most likely would be Mercs even then they did not dress like vikings neither did they worship norse gods.

Honestly i know its for entertainment but nobody should tell me that these shows work with historians.

They could actually hire historical renactors to actually replicate real fighting scenes but nah they need stars in the show because we all worship celebrities.

This is because Just like the Korean Drama,we need the women to watch the TV.Women loves these kind of drama

In this age,guys dont watch TV or just to watch the girls,Guy just to play video games

(I hope that rude Korean User in this forum doesnt come to fight me again)

I willnt defend the Turkish series like he defends K-pop,

The stupid muhteşem yüzyıl kösem even a Polish princess using Japanese katana fight Murad IV...

 

[Ryder]

This is because Just like the Korean Drama,we need the women to watch the TV.Women loves these kind of drama

In this age,guys dont watch TV or just to watch the girls,Guy just to play video games

(I hope that rude Korean User in this forum doesnt come to fight me again)

I willnt defend the Turkish series like he defends K-pop,

The stupid muhteşem yüzyıl kösem even a Polish princess using Japanese katana fight Murad IV...

Kosem Sultan gives Murad the 4th with a huge mace. He did use a mace but not that big which people claim. Maybe ceremonial but in battle he would have used a normal ottoman mace its not practical to carry such huge and big thing in battle.

Accounts did exist but people need to realise many historical accounts also tend exaggerate a lot of figures.

Skanderbeg is believed to have killed 10,000 Turks in a single battle. Not his army basically himself.

That reeks of bullshit.

 

[B_A]

Kosem Sultan gives Murad the 4th with a huge mace. He did use a mace but not that big which people claim. Maybe ceremonial but in battle he would have used a normal ottoman mace its not practical to carry such huge and big thing in battle.

Accounts did exist but people need to realise many historical accounts also tend exaggerate a lot of figures.

Skanderbeg is believed to have killed 10,000 Turks in a single battle. Not his army basically himself.

That reeks of bullshit.

Because Turkish people dont care the History.We don't write detailed History books like the Chinese and Japanese and Greeks and Britishs.A lot of Statesmen and Generals of Ottoman empire didnt remain detailed records but a small landlords in Japan or English had very detailed stories.

The best research books and paper of Turkish history mainly come from westerners researchers since 1980s.(for example Edward J.Erickson or Bruno Mugnai or Gábor Ágoston and some Turkish resarcher who using English) And our people cannot read these books in Turkiye becuse lack of English skill.I went to a the Turkish book store,the Turkish language history book almost the political promotion but not a detailed records.

Before that they can only use the informations or memoir from the enemy of Turks,which almost same as the PKK promotion.

For example ,Britishs said that in World war I Turks can only fight under German officers and Turks enjoyed superior german firepower against british army.

 

[B_A]

The detailed first sources of 1453 Fatih are all from the Greeks and westerners

All of these Stories like The Lord of the Rings

A evil tyrant Mehmet II led 100 bin orcs and barbarians to attack a few western braves

 

[Saithan]

I don't watch Türkish dizi they're too long and too much repetition and summary and such.

Protector in Netflix wasn't bad though.

Dizi are designed to make turkish people even more dumb.