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[YeşilVatan]

Jokes aside, does Turkish flag's red colour symbolise martyrs blood?
For example, the red circle in middle of BD's flag symbolises our martyrs blood and sacrifice.

Yes it does. Crescent-star is said to be about how a crescent and star was reflected upon the pooled blood after a battle, most commonly thought of as the battle of kosovo, idk which one. But a more realistic take would be that it is a pretty common symbol, from ancient mesopotamia to byzantines to some Turkish tribes such as Türgiş tribe.

 

[No Name]

Yes it does. Crescent-star is said to be about how a crescent and star was reflected upon the pooled blood after a battle, most commonly thought of as the battle of kosovo, idk which one. But a more realistic take would be that it is a pretty common symbol, from ancient mesopotamia to byzantines to some Turkish tribes such as Türgiş tribe.

The Crescent-star that is found on the Turkish flag originated with the Greek goddess Artemis as it was her symbol. Artemis was the patron goddess of the City of Byzantines, when the Romans turned the city into their new capital, they renamed the city Nova Roma, and the symbol became associated with imperial authority as it was the symbol of Nova Roma. When the ottomans Turned the city, their capital sultans declared that their empire was the continuation of the Roman empire thus the symbol of Roman was adopted as the symbol of the Ottomans.

 

[YeşilVatan]

The Crescent-star that is found on the Turkish flag originated with the Greek goddess Artemis as it was her symbol. Artemis was the patron goddess of the City of Byzantines, when the Romans turned the city into their new capital, they renamed the city Nova Roma, and the symbol became associated with imperial authority as it was the symbol of Nova Roma. When the ottomans Turned the city, their capital sultans declared that their empire was the continuation of the Roman empire thus the symbol of Roman was adopted as the symbol of the Ottomans.

No. That's deconstructionist bullshit. Just google "Göktürk coins".

 

[Afif]

I thought Ottoman kept the Crescent-star bacause it also signify as islamic symbol?

 

[YeşilVatan]

I thought Ottoman kept the Crescent-star bacause it also signify as islamic symbol?

Crescent symbol has a deep past in the near-east. After all, that's what you'll be seeing when you look up at night. It's only natural. But early islamic society put extra emphasis on purging such symbols. Remember, the chief idol that was destroyed by the prophet was a moon god.

My conclusion is that the symbol is widespread, but Turks used their own version throughout their history.

This bullshit about that symbol being taken from some gay greek god makes me angry. "Oh your national symbol is just not your creation haha". This is just a cheap trick to deconstruct and destroy our national and ethnic identity, no matter how much it is disguised as stentorian, sesquipedalian academic gobbledygook cooked up by westoids. OUR FLAG IS OURS SO SUCK IT SNOW MAGGOTS

 

[Xenon54]

I thought Ottoman kept the Crescent-star bacause it also signify as islamic symbol?

Crescent is only being used Turks and areas that have been subject to its empires so im not sure whether we can call it an islamic sign, its more a Turkic symbol than anything else.

 

[No Name]

No. That's deconstructionist bullshit. Just google "Göktürk coins".

yes, the symbol was used by Turks in the past and by other groups but the Ottoman adoption of it is due to two factors one a legend about Osman the First's dream, and because it was the symbol of Rome and the Ottomans thought of themselves as the continuation of Rome. the Ottomans were forcing Caesar not Constantinople to stop calling themselves Roman for a while before they conquered Istanbul.

Crescent symbol has a deep past in the near-east. After all, that's what you'll be seeing when you look up at night. It's only natural. But early islamic society put extra emphasis on purging such symbols. Remember, the chief idol that was destroyed by the prophet was a moon god.

My conclusion is that the symbol is widespread, but Turks used their own version throughout their history.

This bullshit about that symbol being taken from some gay greek god makes me angry. "Oh your national symbol is just not your creation haha". This is just a cheap trick to deconstruct and destroy our national and ethnic identity, no matter how much it is disguised as stentorian, sesquipedalian academic gobbledygook cooked up by westoids. OUR FLAG IS OURS SO SUCK IT SNOW MAGGOTS

Culture is something that is tied down to one group it is something that evolves over time from different cultures coming together and exchanging ideas, for example, Greek culture gets most of its roots from the middle east.

I thought Ottoman kept the Crescent-star bacause it also signify as islamic symbol?

The Crescent-star wasn't an Islamic symbol but there was a legend has it that Osman I put a crescent on the top of a mosque after he had a dream that he believed to be a vision. The Crescent-star is associated with the Islamic world mostly because it was used by the Ottomans.

 

[Nilgiri]

I guess Ataturk is not politically correct enough to warrant a film from Disney.

I say the better that they dont touch our history then again Turkish cinema has desecrated our history with Osman and Ertugurl. Everything is fair game.

Lets not forget Payithat lmaoo

Disney will just ruin anything it touches, especially w.r.t something regarding wars and country founding etc.

They went out of their way to sissify Star Wars for pete's sake...Lucas literally gave them a much better screenplay for the newer stuff that they just ignored (but still own the IP so wont release it either etc)....and I doubt the Lucas stuff was really any good anyway (given what he did to the original stuff when revisiting it etc)....but it would have been way better than what disney crapped out in the end.

No country should collaborate or promote anything to do with Disney or any hollyweird studio these days more broadly when it comes to their wars and country foundation, ethos etc. Its a bunch of ingrates and degenerates there regarding their own country....why would that suddenly improve for another unless theres some victimisation to be expanded on foreign shores.

The US deep state is playing an evil game in large number of its factions. Hence responsible countries with enough social conservatism residing within them must be attuned to this in sufficient degree and not become the next lab experiments, when they are still in precarious state on many things themselves.

 

[Xenon54]

Disney will just ruin anything it touches, especially w.r.t something regarding wars and country founding etc.

They went out of their way to sissify Star Wars for pete's sake...Lucas literally gave them a much better screenplay for the newer stuff that they just ignored (but still own the IP so wont release it either etc)....and I doubt the Lucas stuff was really any good anyway (given what he did to the original stuff when revisiting it etc)....but it would have been way better than what disney crapped out in the end.

No country should collaborate or promote anything to do with Disney or any hollyweird studio these days more broadly when it comes to their wars and country foundation, ethos etc. Its a bunch of ingrates and degenerates there regarding their own country....why would that suddenly improve for another unless theres some victimisation to be expanded on foreign shores.

The US deep state is playing an evil game in large number of its factions. Hence responsible countries with enough social conservatism residing within them must be attuned to this in sufficient degree and not become the next lab experiments, when they are still in precarious state on many things themselves.

Hollywood is a hot pile of shit revently and these people have the audacity to go on a stroke as of they produced anything good recently. I hope A.I. take over more so we get rid of those morons.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Or replace the gap they left when they send their weapon systems to Ukraine. Morocco sends over 70+ tanks to Ukraine, and our M1 abrams wont be enough. Will not be surprised if Morocco is the second customer to be frank with you.

@Afif

 

[Ryder]

Early Muslims did not use any symbols.

Only standard flags.

Cresecents got introduced with the Turks who used it for their standard flags and banners.

As the crusaders faced Turkish-Turkic soldiers their banners were all crescents hence why cross vs crsecent came about.

Islam does not have an official symbol.

 

[Anastasius]

The crescent and star is not a symbol of Artemis, her symbol is a bow and arrow (which makes sense because she's a goddess of the hunt) which sometimes gets confused with a crescent moon and arrow due to how simplistically it was drawn. The late Byzantine era also used a moon and sun symbol IIRC but the crescent moon and star in that particular position comes from Turks and has been used way before Turkic tribes even arrived in Anatolia and I don't just mean 10th century AD, I mean even before Byzantines started hiring Turkic mercenaries to fight for them which was 8th century AD AFAIK.

 

[Bozan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1691731049183596736

Atatürk the islamist

 

[Tornadoss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1691731049183596736

Atatürk the islamist

How could they possibly think that making a building would make people to love Islam?

 

[B_A]

There is videos of him that seems like he wants to hump the meat.

The guy is a creep. All this time I thought he was Mexican until a friend told me his Turkish. I could not believe it.

They just made it infinitely worse, i didnt care at first that they dont publish Atatürk docu but now putting that moron as replacement is down right insult.

I think they should make a film of volleyball girls.Already there is a lesbian girland a black girl there.

At least better than this guy....

Just not to make every girl has african boyfriend.......

 

[B_A]

Jokes aside, does Turkish flag's red colour symbolise martyrs blood?
For example, the red circle in middle of BD's flag symbolises our martyrs blood and sacrifice.

THAT S interest that looks like japanese one

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1691731049183596736

Atatürk the islamist

Every political ideology in Turkiye try to fit Ataturk to their respective ideology.

 

[Afif]

THAT S interest that looks like japanese one

The red circle in the Japanese circle symbolises Sun.

 

[fushkee]

Turkiye seems like a Titanic sinking...

 

[LIbyan Soldier]

Just like the Arabs in Turkiye.

Can you tell more ? Im Arab so im i not welcomed in turkey because of the actions of someone else ?