TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Bozan]

No one understands the reason behind Erdo's actions more than Ragip Soylu
I have been following and reading his articles regularly and he predicted that Erdogan will ramp up his criticism of Natenyahu a week ago

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717126966568980841

I mean that's really easy to predict

 

[Barry]

Turkiye is done with men like this.

 

[Bozan]

Turkiye is done with men like this.

This is Turkiyes future. The entire bureaucracy is infected

 

[Bozan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717115686038683870

"We will do everything against Israel, diplomatically and militarily if necessary"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717124584623821308

 

[Barry]

any% speedrun secular nation into another failed Islamic theocracy world record.

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717119576041787695

RTE: Let's make the back seats four, please.


If I am guessing correctly, they are putting Turkiye forward on the guarantor issue. I hope this does not turn into Nasrettin Hodja's elephant story.

 

[Joe mark]

Oh man. The PKK is going to look cute by comparison and receive even more support because the west can just use this as justification.

Hamas has killed so many civilians in a day, even released videos of them executing civilians and celebrating it, I don't think the PKK even did the videos for fear of retribution.

Erdogan is destroying foreign policy for his image.

your PKK brothers will never be seen as good guys since they are terrorists trying to separate a country while HAMAS are resistance fighters against settlers

 

[Bozan]

your PKK brothers will never be seen as good guys since they are terrorists trying to separate a country while HAMAS are resistance fighters against settlers

If you think that is how the foreign world sees it you are very very wrong.

There is a PKK conflict with very little civilians deaths on video, very little media coverage, then there is a Hamas conflict with videos of Hamas executing civilians and global media coverage.

One of them outweighs the other by far. The number of civilians Hamas killed in one day is a huge number. The world already considers them as terrorists.

Calling the one that kills way more civilians on video and celebrates it mujahideen is extreme. It's crazy. It's insanely stupid.

 

[Barry]

your PKK brothers will never be seen as good guys since they are terrorists trying to separate a country while HAMAS are resistance fighters against settlers

Brother, the PKK is allowed to operate across the EU/US. They're allowed to fly the flag of the PKK freely at Kurdish rallies, whilst the protesters waving the flag of Palestine get beaten, arrested and have police turn up at their homes after the fact.

The PKK is portrayed as anything but a terror organisation across most Western media. They push them as democratic, feminist, champions of equal rights, merely fighting a just war for their homeland. They constantly shit on Turkiye for doing anything to counter the PKK, usually using the rhetoric of Turkiye oppressing Kurds wherever they are found, pushing the narrative that the PKK represent all Kurds.

Turkiye has fast lost the information war as Europe and the USA rewrite reality to push their PKK terror statelet and create footholds against the Turkish state for future balkanisation.

 

[Melkor]

No one understands the reason behind Erdo's actions more than Ragip Soylu
I have been following and reading his articles regularly and he predicted that Erdogan will ramp up his criticism of Natenyahu a week ago

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717126966568980841

Didn’t he have a similar sook all those years ago about operation something-a-rather betraying his efforts? Then he went Peres at Davos.

 

[Bozan]

Brother, the PKK is allowed to operate across the EU/US. They're allowed to fly the flag of the PKK freely at Kurdish rallies, whilst the protesters waving the flag of Palestine get beaten, arrested and have police turn up at their homes after the fact.

The PKK is portrayed as anything but a terror organisation across most Western media. They push them as democratic, feminist, champions of equal rights, merely fighting a just war for their homeland. They constantly shit on Turkiye for doing anything to counter the PKK, usually using the rhetoric of Turkiye oppressing Kurds wherever they are found, pushing the narrative that the PKK represent all Kurds.

Turkiye has fast lost the information war as Europe and the USA rewrite reality to push their PKK terror statelet and create footholds against the Turkish state for future balkanisation.

And Erdogan's open endorsement of Hamas after the videos released is ensuring TR never, ever recovers the information war.

 

[Joe mark]

If you think that is how the foreign world sees it you are very very wrong.

There is a PKK conflict with very little civilians deaths on video, very little media coverage, then there is a Hamas conflict with videos of Hamas executing civilians and global media coverage.

One of them outweighs the other by far. The number of civilians Hamas killed in one day is a huge number. The world already considers them as terrorists.

Calling the one that kills way more civilians on video and celebrates it mujahideen is extreme. It's crazy. It's insanely stupid.

Lol how many times PKK terrorists detonated explosives in civilians in Turkiye


lol Zionist terrorists who are committing atrocities by bombing hospitals, schools and even civilian tents do not deserve to be condemned?!!

 

[Bozan]

Lol how many times PKK terrorists detonated explosives in civilians in Turkiye


lol Zionist terrorists who are committing atrocities by bombing hospitals, schools and even civilian tents do not deserve to be condemned?!!

I do not take you seriously because you are a terrorist supporter

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712586514863984857

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1711442205817053350

What do Thai migrant workers have to do with the conflict to get executed ?

Or going door to door killing civilians ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716483228859568585

This is terrorism.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Lol how many times PKK terrorists detonated explosives in civilians in Turkiye


lol Zionist terrorists who are committing atrocities by bombing hospitals, schools and even civilian tents do not deserve to be condemned?!!

Probably over the last 50 years thousands of times. Before ISIS maybe one of the most active terrorist organisation in the world in terms of committing terrorist acts.

Remember so called Muslim news is even worse when it comes to reporting PKK crimes, they almost never do. At least the west used to call them terrorists and report some of the shit they did. In fact those Palestinians in the past sided with the PKK terrorists. Obviously Allah knows best, it must be for good reason they suffer today.

Political islam is a race to the bottom.

You have to give it the Europeans though, when it comes to stirring shit between Jews and Muslims they have been exceptional at constantly fanning the flames. In the long run the europeans will have killed two birds with one stone over this Palestine issue.

 

[Joe mark]

Brother, the PKK is allowed to operate across the EU/US. They're allowed to fly the flag of the PKK freely at Kurdish rallies, whilst the protesters waving the flag of Palestine get beaten, arrested and have police turn up at their homes after the fact.

The PKK is portrayed as anything but a terror organisation across most Western media. They push them as democratic, feminist, champions of equal rights, merely fighting a just war for their homeland. They constantly shit on Turkiye for doing anything to counter the PKK, usually using the rhetoric of Turkiye oppressing Kurds wherever they are found, pushing the narrative that the PKK represent all Kurds.

Turkiye has fast lost the information war as Europe and the USA rewrite reality to push their PKK terror statelet and create footholds against the Turkish state for future balkanisation.

We are not talking about the West's point of view, but rather we are talking about the truth here, and the truth here is that the Israelis are aggressors and Hamas is defending Gaza and its meanings.

Does the fact that the West supports and defends the PKK deny that they are terrorists?

 

[Afif]

"Hamas is not a terrorist organization. Hamas consists of mujahideen trying to defend their own land."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717112892011503801

OK we do not owe anything to Israel but what do we owe to Hamas to make this statement? Have we learned nothing from the "Muslim Brotherhood" fiasco and what it costed us?

IMO, it sounds worse. I was just scrolling, Media is already blowing up with this.

Up until now everything was sensible. Calling for ceasefire, proposing to act as mediator, organising aides, condemning Israel for indiscriminate bombing.

But now Turkish president just outright cornered himself. I don’t see any room for diplomatic manoeuvre for later ‘explanation'.

 

[Ryder]

"Hamas is not a terrorist organization. Hamas consists of mujahideen trying to defend their own land."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717112892011503801

OK we do not owe anything to Israel but what do we owe to Hamas to make this statement? Have we learned nothing from the "Muslim Brotherhood" fiasco and what it costed us?

Well we tried our best to convince the world that PKK and YPG are terrorists instead they laughed at our face.

As much are Hamas are scumbags we are basically using their book.

By saying we dont see them as terrorists.

 

[Ryder]

If Israel wants our support.

Okay give us our F35s and stop faciliating their bullshit lobbyists from the USA against Turkiye.

Relations is not a one way highway where Israel benefits only.

Turkiye is a regional power.

Turkiye is more secular than Israel. Funny how these Cuckservatives call Turkiye an Islamic state when they literally back a Jewish state.

Israel is literally akin to a Etho state with both ethnic and religious characteristics. Entirely not a theocracy neither is it entirely secular.

Lets not forget Saudi Arabia too

 

[Afif]

Well we tried our best to convince the world that PKK and YPG are terrorists instead they laughed at our face.

As much are Hamas are scumbags we are basically using their book.

But balance of power between (an almost) unified West and Türkiye is not the same, is it? Tit for tat is not always a very wise response.

 

[Ryder]

But balance of power between (an almost) unified West and Türkiye is not the same, is it? Tit for tat is not always a very wise response.

Turkiye is going its own path.

Its own destiny. Regardless of Erdogan or not.

Its been put in place ever since the Republic was founded.

I dont think Ataturk would prefer staying in one camp as motto has always been independant Turkiye.