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He doesnt want to but he influences many future politicians.
He was typical War-Monger Officer. He just doesn't like USA being held in the backfoot for past 10 years. He also loves fighting 2nd world countries. He is also good at doing this.

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He led an early tank battle in the Gulf War and was a top planner in the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia.
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If your American as soon as one side starts to get the upper hand you throw some support to the other one to drag it out for as long as possible, then when both sides have ruined themselves you go and kick both their heads in. This is what they did in Syria to Turkiye.

dragged her into that mess and then used that mess to screw everyone. they screwed assad, iran and Turkiye over that conflict. Meanwhile the americans, russians and isrealis all won from it.
Good observation. 👍
People forget that Mossad was involved in the isis propaganda to spread it worldwide. While Saudi with their Salafi ideology did nothing to the islamic world. They just followed Merican order to sit back and no harm came to them. (Like an Obidient Hostage)
 

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Numbers seem very high but something is definitely going on.

Israeli journalists are reporting "purple bleeding" (purple being the color of one of their special forces brigades). Many military helicopters are also arriving to Ashdod from Gaza direction (evacuating wounded/dead). their criminal spokesperson has asked media to not report on what is going on.
 

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Senior U.S. Defense Officials told the New York Times today that several Dozen U.S. Special Forces Commandos are now on the Ground in Israel to work alongside the F.B.I, State Department and other U.S. Hostage-Recovery Specialists to assist the Israel Defense Force in Rescuing upwards of 200 American and other Foreign Nationals who are being held as Hostages by Hamas in the Gaza Strip; the Commandos have not been Assigned to Combat Roles but will help the IDF with a number of things including Planning, Logistics, and Negotiations.

 

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Lowlifes you mean servicemen of Israel lol? I wonder how would you feel like If they said the same about our troops?
Our soldiers have never carried out an operation to dismember babies. Our soldiers had honor and pride. Or are you talking about the glory of an army that commits genocide? If so, you have lost your way.
 

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Our soldiers have never carried out an operation to dismember babies. Our soldiers had honor and pride. Or are you talking about the glory of an army that commits genocide? If so, you have lost your way.
In war there is no honor and pride, Stop with your twitter mouth westerners also calls us baby killer and genocider that does not mean we did those stuff.
Both sides commit atrocious massacres lets not bring up the civilians arabs literally kidnap during the first hours of the war.
 

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October 7 testimonies reveal Israel’s military ‘shelling’ Israeli citizens with tanks, missiles OCTOBER 27, 2023


Israel’s military received orders to shell Israeli homes and even their own bases as they were overwhelmed by Hamas militants on October 7. How many Israeli citizens said to have been “burned alive” were actually killed by friendly fire?




Several new testimonies by Israeli witnesses to the October 7 Hamas surprise attack on southern Israel adds to growing evidence that the Israeli military killed its own citizens as they fought to neutralize Palestinian gunmen.

Tuval Escapa, a member of the security team for Kibbutz Be’eri, set up a hotline to coordinate between kibbutz residents and the Israeli army. He told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that as desperation began to set in, “the commanders in the field made difficult decisions – including shelling houses on their occupants in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages.”

A separate report published in Haaretz noted that the Israeli military was “compelled to request an aerial strike” against its own facility inside the Erez Crossing to Gaza “in order to repulse the terrorists” who had seized control. That base was filled with Israeli Civil Administration officers and soldiers at the time.

These reports indicate that orders came down from the military’s high command to attack homes and and other areas inside Israel, even at the cost of many Israeli lives.

An Israeli woman named Yasmin Porat confirmed in an interview with Israel Radio that the military “undoubtedly” killed numerous Israeli noncombatants during gun battles with Hamas militants on October 7. “They eliminated everyone, including the hostages,” she stated, referring to Israeli special forces.

As David Sheen and Ali Abunimah reported in Electronic Intifada, Porat described “very, very heavy crossfire” and Israeli tank shelling, which led to many casualties among Israelis.

While being held by the Hamas gunmen, Porat recalled, “They did not abuse us. We were treated very humanely… No one treated us violently.”

She added, “The objective was to kidnap us to Gaza, not to murder us.”

According to Haaretz, the army was only able to restore control over Be’eri after admittedly “shelling” the homes of Israelis who had been taken captive. “The price was terrible: at least 112 Be’eri residents were killed,” the paper chronicled. “Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. It is believed that more bodies are still lying in the rubble.”

Much of the shelling in Be’eri was carried out by Israeli tank crews. As a reporter for the Israeli Foreign Ministry-sponsored outlet i24 noted during a visit to Be’eri, “small and quaint homes [were] bombarded or destroyed,” and “well-maintained lawns [were] ripped up by the tracks of an armored vehicle, perhaps a tank.”

Apache attack helicopters also figured heavily in the Israeli military’s response on October 7. Pilots have told Israeli media they scrambled to the battlefield without any intelligence, unable to differentiate between Hamas fighters and Israeli noncombatants, and yet determined to “empty the belly” of their war machines. “I find myself in a dilemma as to what to shoot at, because there are so many of them,” one Apache pilot commented.

Video filmed by uniformed Hamas gunmen makes it clear they intentionally shot many Israelis with Kalashnikov rifles on October 7. However, the Israeli government has not been content to rely on verified video evidence. Instead, it continues to push discredited claims of “beheaded babies” while distributing photographs of “bodies burned beyond recognition” to insist that militants sadistically immolated their captives, and even raped some before torching them alive.

The objective behind Tel Aviv’s atrocity exhibition is clear: to paint Hamas as “worse than ISIS” while cultivating support for the Israeli army’s ongoing bombardment of the Gaza Strip, which has left over 7000 dead, including at least 2500 children at the time of publication. While hundreds of wounded children in Gaza have been treated for what a surgeon described as “fourth degree burns” caused by novel weapons, the Western media’s focus remains trained on Israeli citizens supposedly “burned alive” on October 7.

Yet the mounting evidence of friendly fire orders handed down by Israeli army commanders strongly suggests that at least some of the most jarring images of charred Israeli corpses, Israeli homes reduced to rubble and burned out hulks of vehicles presented to Western media were, in fact, the handiwork of tank crews and helicopter pilots blanketing Israeli territory with shells, cannon fire and Hellfire missiles.

Indeed, it appears that on October 7, Israel’s military resorted to the same tactics it has employed against civilians in Gaza, driving up the death toll of its own citizens with the indiscriminate use of heavy weapons.

Israel bombs its own base, nerve center of the Gaza siege​

Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) launched Operation Al-Aqsa Flood at 6 AM on October 7, quickly overwhelming the military bases from which Israel maintain its siege of the Gaza Strip. Chief among the objectives outlined by Hamas and PIJ was the release of Palestinians imprisoned by Israel, including as many as 700 children passing through the system each year along with 1264 Palestinians currently being held without charges.

The 2011 swap for Gilad Shalit, an Israeli soldier captured five years prior and released in exchange for 1027 prisoners, provided clear inspiration for Al-Aqsa Flood. By storming military bases and kibbutzes, the Palestinian militants aimed to capture as many Israeli soldiers and civilians as possible, and bring them back to Gaza alive.

The lighting assault immediately overwhelmed Israel’s Gaza Division. Video recorded from GoPro cameras mounted on the helmets of Palestinian fighters shows Israeli soldiers cut down in rapid succession, many still dressed in underwear and caught off guard. At least 340 active soldiers and intelligence officers were killed on October 7, accounting for close to 50% of confirmed Israeli deaths. The casualties included high ranking officers like Col. Jonathan Steinberg, the commander of Israel’s Nahal Brigade. (Many first responders and armed Israeli civilians were also killed).

The Erez Crossing is the home of a massive military and Coordination of Government Activities in the [Occupied] Territories (COGAT) facility which functions as the nerve center of Israel’s siege on Gaza. When it was overrun by Palestinian fighters on October 7 with droves of army bureaucrats inside, the Israeli military flew into a panic.

According to Haaretz, the commander of the Gaza Division, Brig. Gen. Avi Rosenfeld, “entrenched himself in the division’s subterranean war room together with a handful of male and female soldiers, trying desperately to rescue and organize the sector under attack. Many of the soldiers, most of them not combat personnel, were killed or wounded outside. The division was compelled to request an aerial strike against the [Erez Crossing] base itself in order to repulse the terrorists.”

Video released by Israel’s COGAT ten days after the battle – and the Israeli airstrike – shows severe structural damage to the roof of the Erez Crossing facility.


Israeli Apache helicopters attack inside Israel: “I find myself in a dilemma as to what to shoot at”​

By 10:30 AM, according to an account the military gave to the Israeli news outlet Mako, “most of the [Palestinian] forces from the original invasion wave had already left the area for Gaza.” But with the rapid collapse of the Israeli military’s Gaza Division, looters, common onlookers and low-level guerrillas not necessarily under the command of Hamas flowed freely into Israel.

By this point, Israel’s two Apache helicopter squadrons had 8 choppers in the air, “and there was almost no intelligence to help make fateful decisions,” Mako reported. The squadrons did not reach full strength until noon.

As the wave of infiltrations from Gaza drove chaos on the ground, discombobulated Israeli pilots unleashed a frenzy of missile and machine gun salvos: “The Apache pilots testify that they fired a huge amount of munitions, emptied the ‘belly of the helicopter’ in minutes, flew to re-arm and returned to the air, again and again. But it didn’t help and they understand it,” Mako reported.

The Apache helicopters appear to have focused on vehicles streaming back into Gaza from the Nova electronic music festival and nearby kibbutzes, attacked cars with apparent knowledge that Israeli captives could be inside. They also fired on unarmed people exiting cars or walking on foot through the fields on the periphery of Gaza.


In an interview with Israel’s Mako news outlet, one Apache pilot reflected on the tortuous dilemma of whether to shoot at people and cars returning to Gaza. He knew that many of those vehicles may have contained Israeli captives. But he chose to open fire anyway. “I choose targets like that,” the pilot reflected, “where I tell myself that the chance that I am shooting here on hostages as well is low.” However, he admitted that his judgment “was not 100%.”

“I understand that we have to shoot here and quickly,” the commander of the Apache unit, Lt. Col. E., told Mako in a separate report. “Shooting at people in our territory – this is something I never thought I would do.”

Lt. Col. A., a reserve pilot in the same unit, described a fog of confusion: “I find myself in a dilemma as to what to shoot at, because there are so many of them.”

A report on the Apache squadrons by the Israeli outlet Yedioth Aharanoth noted that “the pilots realized that there was tremendous difficulty in distinguishing within the occupied outposts and settlements who was a terrorist and who was a soldier or civilian… The rate of fire against the thousands of terrorists was tremendous at first, and only at a certain point did the pilots begin to slow down the attacks and carefully select the targets.”

A squadron commander explained to Mako how he nearly attacked the home of an Israeli family occupied by Hamas militants, and wound up firing next to it with cannon rounds. “Our forces hadn’t had time to reach this settlement yet,” the pilot recalled, “and I’ve already run out of missiles there, which is the more accurate weaponry.”

With the family inside a fortified bomb shelter, the pilot “decided to shoot a cannon 30 meters from this house, a very difficult decision. I shoot so that if they are currently there, they will hear the bombs inside the house, that they understand that it is known they are there, and with the hope that they will leave that house. I am also telling you the truth, it crossed my mind that I was shooting at the house.”

Ultimately, the Israeli helicopter pilots blamed clever Hamas tactics for their inability to distinguish between the armed militants and Israeli non-combatants. “The Hamas army, it turns out, deliberately made it difficult for the helicopter pilots and the operators of the UAVs,” Yedioth Aharanoth claimed.

According to the Israeli paper, “it became clear that the invading forces were asked in the last briefings to walk slowly into the settlements and outposts or within them, and under no circumstances to run, in order to make the pilots think they were Israelis. This deception worked for a considerable time , until the Apache pilots realized that they had to skip all the restrictions. It was only around 9:00 a.m. that some of them began to spray the terrorists with the cannons on their own, without authorization from superiors.”

And so, without any intelligence or ability to distinguish between Palestinian and Israeli, the pilots let loose a fury of cannon and missile fire onto Israeli areas below.

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One of many homes in Kibbutz Be’eri which appears to have been shelled with heavy weapons


Israel’s military “eliminated everyone, including the hostages,” firing tank shells into kibbutz homes​

Photos of the aftermath of the fighting inside kibbutzes like Be’eri – and of the Israeli bombardment of these communities – show rubble and charred homes that resemble the aftermath of Israeli tank and artillery attacks inside Gaza. As Tuval Escapa, the security coordinator at Kibbutz Be’eri, told Haaretz, Israeli army commanders had ordered the “shelling [of] houses on their occupants in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages.”

Yasmin Porat, an attendee of the Nova music festival who fled into Kibbutz Be’eri, told Israeli Radio that when Israeli special forces arrived during a hostage standoff, “They eliminated everyone, including the hostages because there was very, very heavy crossfire.”

“After insane crossfire,” Porat continued, “two tank shells were shot into the house. It’s a small kibbutz house, nothing big.”


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Destroyed homes in Kibbutz Be’eri following the fighting on October 7, which included Israeli tank shelling of residences

A video posted by the Telegram account of Israel’s South Responders shows the bodies of Israelis discovered below the rubble of a home destroyed by a powerful explosive blast – likely a tank shell. The right-wing New York Post ran a report on a similar incident about a boy’s body found scorched beneath the ruins of his home in Be’eri.

The phenomenon of charred corpses whose hands and ankles had been tied, and who were found in groups beneath the rubble of destroyed homes, also raises questions about “friendly” tank fire.

Yasmin Porat, the hostage who survived a standoff at Be’eri, described how Hamas militants tied her partner’s hands behind his back. After one militant commander surrendered, using her as a human shield to ensure his safety, she saw her partner lying on the ground, still alive. She stated that Israeli security forces “undoubtedly” killed him and the other hostages as they opened fire on the remaining militants inside, including with tank shells.

Israeli security forces also opened fire on fleeing Israelis whom they mistook for Hamas gunmen. A resident of Ashkelon named Danielle Rachiel described nearly being killed after escaping from the Nova music festival when it was attacked by militants from Gaza. “As we reached the roundabout [at a kibbutz], we saw Israeli security forces!” Rachiel recalled. “We held our heads down [because] we automatically knew they’d be suspicious of us, in a small beat-up car… from the same direction the terrorists were coming from. Our forces began shooting at us!”

“When our forces fired at us, our windows shattered,” she continued. It was only when they shouted in Hebrew, “We’re Israelis!” that the shooting stopped, and they were taken to safety.

Some Israelis were not as lucky as Rachiel. Adi Ohana was shot dead by Israeli police near his home after being mistaken for a Palestinian guerrilla. “An innocent man was killed in the most negligent way possible,” his niece complained. Israeli media is now filling up with reports of the military gunning down fellow Israelis, even as they were defending their homes from Palestinian gunmen.

Did Israel’s now-disappeared “Hamas atrocity” photos depict dead Hamas fighters?​

Among the most gruesome videos of the aftermath of October 7, also published on the Telegram account of South Responders, shows a car full of charred corpses (below) at the entrance of Kibbutz Be’eri. The Israeli government has portrayed these casualties as Israeli victims of sadistic Hamas violence. However, the melted steel body and collapsed roof of the car, and the comprehensively scorched corpses inside, evidence a direct hit from a Hellfire missile.

It is also possible that the male occupants of the car were Hamas activists who had streamed in after the fences were breached. They may have also been returning to Gaza with Israeli captives inside their car.



Israel’s UN ambassador, Gilad Erdan, appears to have promoted photos showing dead Hamas fighters during his October 26 tirade at the United Nations. Erdan gesticulated angrily at the podium, bellowing that “we are fighting animals” before whipping out a paper displaying a QR code captionioned, “Scan to see Hamas’ atrocities.”

When I scanned the code that day at noon, I found around 8 grisly images of burned bodies and blackened body parts. One showed a pile of completely charred male corpses piled into a dumpster. Would Israeli rescuers and medics have disposed of dead Jewish Israelis in such a fashion?

All Israelis killed on October 7 appear to have been collected in individual body bags and transported to morgues. Meanwhile, numerous videos recorded by Israelis showed them defiling the corpses of Hamas gunmen killed by security forces – stripping them naked, urinating on them, and mutilating their bodies. Throwing their bodies in a dumpster would seem to be a part of the de facto policy of corpse abuse.

Just over twelve hours after Ambassador Erdan promoted the supposed Hamas atrocity photos at the UN, the Google Drive file contained only one brief video. Among the mysteriously disappeared photos was the image of the dumpster filled with burned bodies. Had it been deleted because it showed Hamas fighters torched by a Hellfire missile, and not Israelis “burned to death” by Hamas?

Destruction reminiscent of Israeli attacks on Gaza​

Some rescuers who arrived at sites of carnage in southern Israel after October 7 said they had never seen such destruction. For those who have borne witness to Israel’s bombardment of the Gaza Strip, however, the images of bombed-out homes and burned cars should have been familiar.



While reporting on Israel’s 51 day-long assault on Gaza in 2014, I came across a destroyed vehicle in central Gaza City belonging to a young taxi driver named Fadel Alawan who had been assassinated by an Israeli drone after he unwittingly dropped a wounded Hamas fighter off at a nearby hospital. Inside the car, the remains of Alawan’s sandal could still be seen melted into the gas pedal.

By the afternoon of October 7, placid settlements and desert roads across southern Israel were charred and lined with bombed-out cars that looked much like Alawan’s. Were the lightly-armed Hamas fighters actually capable of exacting destruction on such a comprehensive scale?

Is the Israeli government distributing photos of friendly fire casualties?​

This October 23, Israel’s government gathered members of the international press for an off-the-record propaganda session. Inside a closed military base, officials bombarded the press with snuff films and a collection of lurid allegations of “harrowing scenes of murder, torture and decapitation from Hamas’s October 7 onslaught,” according to the Times of Israel.

In perhaps the most unsettling document presented by the Israeli government, reporters were treated to video showing “a partially burned woman’s corpse, with a mutilated head… The dead woman’s dress is pulled up to her waist and her underpants have been removed,” according to the Times of Israel.

Daniel Amram, the most popular private news blogger in Israel, tweeted the video of the woman’s burned corpse, claiming that “she was raped and burned alive.”

In fact, the young woman appeared to have been killed instantly by a powerful blast. And she seemed to have been removed from the car in which she was seated – and which may have belonged to a captor from Gaza. The vehicle was comprehensively destroyed and situated on a dirt field, as many others attacked by Apache helicopters were. She was scantily clad with her legs spread apart.

Though she had attended the Nova electronic music festival, where many female attendees dressed in skimpy attire, and her bent limbs were typical of a body that had been seated in a car after rigor mortis, Israeli pundits and officials ran with the claim she had been raped.

But the allegations of sexual assault have so far proven baseless. Israeli army spokesman Mickey Edelstein insisted to reporters at the October 23 press briefing that “we have evidence” of rape, but when asked for proof, he told the Times of Israel, “we cannot share it.”

Was this young woman yet another casualty of the Israeli military’s friendly fire orders? Only an independent investigation can determine the truth.

Israel’s military kills Israeli captives inside Gaza, grumbles about their release​

Inside Gaza, where some 200 Israeli citizens are held hostage, there is little doubt about who is killing the captives. On October 26, the Hamas armed wing known as the Al-Qassam Brigades announced that Israel had killed “almost 50 captives” in missile strikes.

If Israel’s military had intentionally targeted areas where it knew the captives were held, its actions would have been consistent with Israel’s Hannibal Directive(The Hannibal Directive: How Israel Killed Its Own Troops and Massacred Palestinians to Prevent Soldier's Capture). The military procedure was established in 1986 following the Jibril Agreement, a deal in which Israel traded 1150 Palestinian prisoners for three Israeli soldiers. Following heavy political backlash, the Israeli military drafted a secret field order to prevent future kidnappings. The proposed operation drew its name from the Carthaginian general who chose to poison himself rather than be held captive by the enemy.

The last confirmed application of the Hannibal Directive(Hadar Goldin and the Hannibal Directive) took place on August 1, 2014 in Rafah, Gaza, when Hamas fighters captured an Israeli officer, Lt. Hadar Goldin, prompting the military to unleash more than 2000 bombs, missiles and shells on the area, killing the soldier along with over 100 Palestinian civilians.

Whether or not Israel is intentionally killing its captive citizens in Gaza, it has proven strangely allergic to their immediate release. On October 22, after refusing an offer from Hamas to release 50 hostages in exchange for fuel, Israel rejected an offer from Hamas to free Yocheved Lifshitz, an 85-year-old Israeli peace activist, and her 79-year-old friend, Nurit Cooper.

When Israel agreed to their release a day later, video showed Liftshitz clasping hands with a Hamas militant and intoning “Shalom” to him as he escorted her out of Gaza. During a press conference that day, she recounted the humane treatment she received from her captors.


The spectacle of Lifshitz’s release was treated as a propaganda disaster by the Israeli government’s spinmeisters, with officials grumbling that allowing her to speak publicly was a grave “mistake.”

The Israeli military was no less displeased by her sudden freedom. As the Times of Israel reported, “The army is concerned that further hostage releases by Hamas could lead the political leadership to delay a ground incursion or even halt it midway.”


In war there is no honor and pride, Stop with your twitter mouth westerners also calls us baby killer and genocider that does not mean we did those stuff.
Both sides commit atrocious massacres lets not bring up the civilians arabs literally kidnap during the first hours of the war.
An army that rains anti-aircraft bullets on its own people with Apache helicopters has no honor. An army that drops phosphorus bombs on its own people has no honor. When we caught those traitors among ourselves, we lynched them. They will give medals to their soldiers for this filth. You don't even know what you're saying.
 

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And we thought Ukrainian War had bad press coverage. Most of the claims I’ve seen are pure bullshit of the most uncorroborated kind.
 

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The Yemeni Houthis have announced that they will attack Israel, and in fact it is a war: what do they have in their arsenal

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October 31, 2023, 4:56 p.m





Despite the fact that the distance between Yemen and Israel is 1,700 km, the Houthis do have ballistic and cruise missiles that can hit such distances

The Yemeni Houthis, who have controlled Yemen's capital Sana'a since 2014 and are involved in the country's protracted civil war, have announced that they will continue to launch long-range attacks on Israel in response to its operation against Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

And despite the fact that Yemen and Israel are separated by more than 1,700 km, this is not an obstacle for the Houthis. Because they have long-range weapons in their arsenal, which are supplied to them by Iran. To assess the available means, it is quite possible to pay attention to the parade held by the Yemeni Houthis in September.й


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Among the presented weapons, it is possible to start with the Ghadr-F (local name Toufan), which was launched by the Houthis on Israel today, October 31, but this missile was shot down by the Arrow 3 anti-missile defense system, which is the first real combat use of the system.

Among the ballistic missiles of the Houthis, it is the only one that can reach Israel, because it has a range of 2,000 km and the weight of the warhead is 750-800 kg.


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A smaller ballistic missile that has been identified as a version of Iran's Rezvan, which has a range of 1,400 km, has an estimated shorter range.


Khaybar Shekan


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An estimated similar range of 1,450 km was demonstrated last year in the arsenal of Khaybar Shekan missiles, which are the longest-range version of solid-fuel missiles that are a development of the Fateh-110.

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Also in the arsenal of the Houthis is Zolfaqar, which is much more famous in Ukraine, from the same family, but with a range of up to 700 km. At the same time, the Yemeni Houthis can only use Ghadr-F ballistic missiles to strike Israel from their territory.


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In addition to ballistic missiles, they also have Quds cruise missiles in their arsenal, which are most likely versions of the Iranian Soumar.


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In the Quds-3 and Quds-4 versions, it has a declared range of 2,000 km, which allows launches against Israel.


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Another sample, which is also more than well-known in Ukraine, but there are also Houthis - Shahed-136. Iran declares a range of 2,500 km for it, which may be overstated.


In this way, the Yemeni Houthis can really wage a remote war with Israel, despite the fact that only weapons with a range of 1,700-2,000 km can be used for launches. Another thing is that ballistic missiles in this case will fly over Saudi Arabia, which supports the other side of the civil war in Yemen.


KSA would be happy if Houtis of Yemen were nuked by IDF?
 
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An army that rains anti-aircraft bullets on its own people with Apache helicopters has no honor. An army that drops phosphorus bombs on its own people has no honor. When we caught those traitors among ourselves, we lynched them. They will give medals to their soldiers for this filth. You don't even know what you're saying.
Everyone uses phosphorus on their artillery shells to mark an area you don't even know this you are very ignorant about the subject please educate yourself first.

There is information pollution shared regarding Israel's use of "phosphorus bombs or phosphorus-containing artillery ammunition".
The use of this type of ammunition is used to emit smoke rather than containing a phosphorus bomb or cap, since it contains low phosphorus and the ammunition plugs are impregnated within the cylinder chambers (unless the cap plug is modified or modernized and replaced).
The actual phosphorus warhead and artillery warhead used as a chemical weapon is the M110 artillery ammunition, not the M825. (Although M110 ammunition is also used for smoke dispersion, the phosphorus mass it contains is both unimpregnated and reaches high kilograms)
In short, the phosphorus value of bombs or artillery ammunition that can cause real damage and cause mass civilian or soldier deaths is approximately 15 kg and above. To give an example, the amount of M47 chemical (phosphorus) bombs used in Vietnam is approximately 33-35 kilograms.
In addition, the first image above is not up to date, it is from 2021, and the use of M825 smoke-emitting ammunition is documented there, too. The same images were already documented while firing from Israeli M-109A2 self-propelled howitzers between 2009 and 2014, that is, an event that was viewed for the first time and tried to be kept secret. not.
And the amount of phosphorus contained in this type of M825 ammunition is a maximum of 5 kilograms, spread over quarter circles, and this rate spreads over a width of approximately 200-250 meters, and it lasts for about 10 minutes (a very low time compared to bombs with a high general phosphorus amount).
To give another example, the standard smoke emitter ammunition "M416" used by M-60A3 tanks, which were used during and after the Cold War and supplied by Turkey from America, contains nearly 3 kilograms of white phosphorus.

If the previous example was not satisfactory, the 122 mm D462 smoke-emitting ammunition used by Armenia and Azerbaijan in the 2020 Karabakh war contains 4 kilograms of white phosphorus.
The ignorant spread of such images is generally due to stupid news agencies not having an ounce of information and wanting to spread propaganda (interaction).
I don't even need to explain why three or five stupid pages on Telegram share it, it's classic news shared by minimally intelligent people because they are ignorant.
Well, if the question of whether this type of ammunition, which is generally used to hide infantry and mechanized units, was used inside Gaza may confuse the mind, the answer was actually given by the IDF in the 2009 Gaza Operations.
"Our defense units use these ammunition not as anti-personnel weapons, but as target marking and smoke screening for the enemy so that infantry units can take positions during the conflict with the enemy line."
The accuracy of the statement is confirmed by the IDF air force's air strikes on places previously marked with smoke-emitting munitions in 2009-2014. (Such practices were also applied in the 1991 Desert Storm operation and the 2003 Iraq invasion at long distances where infantry could not mark with lasers.)

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