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Everyone uses phosphorus on their artillery shells to mark an area you don't even know this you are very ignorant about the subject please educate yourself first.

There is information pollution shared regarding Israel's use of "phosphorus bombs or phosphorus-containing artillery ammunition".
The use of this type of ammunition is used to emit smoke rather than containing a phosphorus bomb or cap, since it contains low phosphorus and the ammunition plugs are impregnated within the cylinder chambers (unless the cap plug is modified or modernized and replaced).
The actual phosphorus warhead and artillery warhead used as a chemical weapon is the M110 artillery ammunition, not the M825. (Although M110 ammunition is also used for smoke dispersion, the phosphorus mass it contains is both unimpregnated and reaches high kilograms)
In short, the phosphorus value of bombs or artillery ammunition that can cause real damage and cause mass civilian or soldier deaths is approximately 15 kg and above. To give an example, the amount of M47 chemical (phosphorus) bombs used in Vietnam is approximately 33-35 kilograms.
In addition, the first image above is not up to date, it is from 2021, and the use of M825 smoke-emitting ammunition is documented there, too. The same images were already documented while firing from Israeli M-109A2 self-propelled howitzers between 2009 and 2014, that is, an event that was viewed for the first time and tried to be kept secret. not.
And the amount of phosphorus contained in this type of M825 ammunition is a maximum of 5 kilograms, spread over quarter circles, and this rate spreads over a width of approximately 200-250 meters, and it lasts for about 10 minutes (a very low time compared to bombs with a high general phosphorus amount).
To give another example, the standard smoke emitter ammunition "M416" used by M-60A3 tanks, which were used during and after the Cold War and supplied by Turkey from America, contains nearly 3 kilograms of white phosphorus.

If the previous example was not satisfactory, the 122 mm D462 smoke-emitting ammunition used by Armenia and Azerbaijan in the 2020 Karabakh war contains 4 kilograms of white phosphorus.
The ignorant spread of such images is generally due to stupid news agencies not having an ounce of information and wanting to spread propaganda (interaction).
I don't even need to explain why three or five stupid pages on Telegram share it, it's classic news shared by minimally intelligent people because they are ignorant.
Well, if the question of whether this type of ammunition, which is generally used to hide infantry and mechanized units, was used inside Gaza may confuse the mind, the answer was actually given by the IDF in the 2009 Gaza Operations.
"Our defense units use these ammunition not as anti-personnel weapons, but as target marking and smoke screening for the enemy so that infantry units can take positions during the conflict with the enemy line."
The accuracy of the statement is confirmed by the IDF air force's air strikes on places previously marked with smoke-emitting munitions in 2009-2014. (Such practices were also applied in the 1991 Desert Storm operation and the 2003 Iraq invasion at long distances where infantry could not mark with lasers.)

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This video was also shot in space, wasn't it? This level of shamelessness is truly incredible. Because you seem to be excusing the genocide committed by Israel. You don't seem to care about babies' arms and legs being torn apart. You seem to have completely lost your humanity. I don't have anything else to say to you.
 

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CNN's Wolf Blitzer: You knew that there were innocent civilians in that refugee camp, right?
IDF spox: This is the tragedy of war. We told them to move south.
Blitzer: So you decided to drop the bomb anyway.
IDF spox: We’re doing everything we can to minimize civilian deaths.

The Israeli Army openly admitted that they committed genocide.
 

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This video was also shot in space, wasn't it? This level of shamelessness is truly incredible. Because you seem to be excusing the genocide committed by Israel. You don't seem to care about babies' arms and legs being torn apart. You seem to have completely lost your humanity. I don't have anything else to say to you.
What about the other side that was kidnapped and raped by hamas? You are not neutral but support dying of civilians that doesn't fit to your narratives boogeyman.
 

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What about the other side that was kidnapped and raped by hamas? You are not neutral but support dying of civilians that doesn't fit to your narratives boogeyman.
Israel did not provide evidence for this. If there is no evidence and the committees will not examine the region for independent investigations, are we supposed to believe what the psychopaths who have made lying an art form say?
 

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Early on people tried to argue that the Isrealis didn't bomb a Hospital, since then they have conducted plenty of inhumane acts that no one bothers to argue against it.

I think that the hospital was hit by a Hamas rocket that fell short. When I first heard reports of hundreds being killed outside the hospital I thought there must have been multiple bombs dropped by the Israeli air force to injure so many. Then I saw the one small crater a few centimetres deep in the car park outside the hospital with no apparent structural damage to the hospital. A 250kg bomb would have made a much larger, deeper crater. I think the evidence rules an IAF bomb out.

Just my opinion but I don't think that I suffer from confirmation bias, nor am I predisposed to blame one or other side for atrocities. I look for evidence, if available. I read reports from independent sources and form my judgement based on those two things. I don't have a side I want to excuse and I don't have a side I want to condemn.
 
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This is what makes America a great country, name one country in the middle east that allows this kind of thing. Even in Europe
USA already killed them all, under the banner of terrorism and acceptable civilian casualty by drone attack.

There is nothing great about it. What kind of greeatness treats people differently when the Border changes? It cannot be Democrisy, it's Impereialism.
 

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on bias., nor am I predisposed to blame one or other side for atrocities. I look for evidence. if available, I read reports from independent sources and form my judgement b

they done enough bad shit by now, that it doesn't matter whether the original hospital was attacked or not. Before that hospital they had a big history of attacking civilians, but conveniently the Israeli apologists wanted to ignore it. Now its pointless since they been killing civilians non stop since that incident.

But its good for me to bring it up since i had isreali apologists/propagandists on here trying to insinuate that anyone who didn't side with the isreali propaganda narrative were siding with the terrorists. That didn't sit well with me, to me the lowest shitheads behave like that and its something the isreali side has tried to push onto the rest of the world.

Nothing worse then the evil oppressor trying to make the victim into the guilty entity. That's pure evil and its pure zionist mentality. The biggest loss out of the isreali behaviour is that the entire region, even the people who despise hamas and the palestinians understand that Isreal is bad bad news for the region.
 

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Israel did not provide evidence for this. If there is no evidence and the committees will not examine the region for independent investigations, are we supposed to believe what the psychopaths who have made lying an art form say?
Yeah first hand hamas pictures of kidnapping woman is fake right you only believe what you want to believe Lmao
Killing is one thing but kidnapping damn bro you probably supported hezbollah when they fired upon our troops(muslim brothers) in syria.

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Before that hospital they had a big history of attacking civilians, but conveniently the Israeli apologists wanted to ignore it.

The apologists on both sides ignore the evil their side does, don't they? Ignore or deny or attribute the evil deeds of the side they support to their enemies. They are both opponents of fact. What weight do opinions or judgements have if not based on facts?
 
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