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Everybody is meeting with Taliban; Austrians, Chinese, Japanese. They have a lot of rare earth material resources, and Afghanistan is an untapped market. And due to our Islamist admin, we should have a lot of leeway and advantage over many others in securing deals. Statesmanship is not about morality. Supporting a losing horse like Morsi or the Islamic Brotherhood in Syria (because of the Islamist blinders that AKP has on) is one thing, but having relations with an already established regime is another. They are doing it for all the wrong reasons, but they are doing the right thing.
 

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Everybody is meeting with Taliban; Austrians, Chinese, Japanese. They have a lot of rare earth material resources, and Afghanistan is an untapped market. And due to our Islamist admin, we should have a lot of leeway and advantage over many others in securing deals. Statesmanship is not about morality. Supporting a losing horse like Morsi or the Islamic Brotherhood in Syria (because of the Islamist blinders that AKP has on) is one thing, but having relations with an already established regime is another. They are doing it for all the wrong reasons, but they are doing the right thing.
I doubt pakistan and afghanistan will let us tap into what afghanistan has sadly Im pretty sure that all of that juicy materials will go to chinese hands...
 

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On a lighter note, I've been upping my rendering and compositing game for my renders of what Kaan might look like after it gets the full stealth treatment. Currently building my own fully rigged model using paralay's CAD drawings from the Secret Projects Forum. Practicing on Fat Amy for the time being. Note the Mie scattering on vortices, and thin film coatings on the canopy. My attempt at photorealism:

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If those third world shitholes have resources that Turkiye needs they should tap into it quickly.

We cant even do good old imperialism.

Resmen rezilik.
It's not imperialism really; we're not going there and taking their stuff or exploiting them. It's just deals about infrastructure development, having tariff deals, etc. China is going to outbid us in any mining endeavour that we might throw our hands in, but you should try at least. It's just business.

Ignoring Taliban because of "human rights" and shit like that is not a thing that any government is going to do as well. Westerners will use it as a tool, to control the Afghani opposition and have it as a trump card to pressure them whenever they want, but nobody should expect Turkey to condemn Taliban for "human rights", as such an act serves no purpose from our pov. The small European countries that do such things, only do so to solidify their place in the ranks of U.S. vassals.

You also don't ignore relations with a country just because they're poor. What kind of logic is that? There's business to be conducted everywhere, esp. in places that are not open to many countries.
 

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It's not imperialism really; we're not going there and taking their stuff or exploiting them. It's just deals about infrastructure development, having tariff deals, etc. China is going to outbid us in any mining endeavour that we might throw our hands in, but you should try at least. It's just business.

Ignoring Taliban because of "human rights" and shit like that is not a thing that any government is going to do as well. Westerners will use it as a tool, to control the Afghani opposition and have it as a trump card to pressure them whenever they want, but nobody should expect Turkey to condemn Taliban for "human rights", as such an act serves no purpose from our pov. The small European countries that do such things, only do so to solidify their place in the ranks of U.S. vassals.

You also don't ignore relations with a country just because they're poor. What kind of logic is that? There's business to be conducted everywhere, esp. in places that are not open to many countries.

I agree foreign policy should never be conducted on ideology or even religion for that matter.

I agree with people saying Akp threw out pragmatism just to cover two failing horses the MB in Egypt and Syria where our proxy groups are too busy fighting each other.

Turkiye can easily reach out to both Palestine and Israel. We had a unique position to mediate both but this got thrown out of a nice ideology shitshow.

Turkiye could have applied itself in a position just like with Ukraine and Russia.

I mean I support Paleatine over Israel. Does not mean we shit on Israel.

We have relations with China, Russia, USA, Belarus, Iran or even broken Somalia. We can also have relations with Israel.

Having relations with Israel does not mean we approve everything they do.
 

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Filistinlilerin TRT world instagram hesabında 100. Yıl donanma geçit töreninde yaptıkları yorumlar.
Bakın Avrupa ve Asya ülkeleri iki yüzlü Amerika ve İsrail zaten eli kanlı ülkeler bunda hepimiz hem fikiriz, ancak müslümanlar olarak şapkayı önümüze koyup düşünmemiz gerekiyor
Fanatiklik ve radikalizm sadece ama sadece kaybettirir. Cinnet halinde savaş kazanılmaz. Dünya'nın islam alemine, ortadoğuya sırtını dönmesi ve kulaklarını tıkamasının sebebi budur. Akılsız ve ahlaksız bir coğrafyada acı ve keder BİTMEZ.
İslam alemi aklını kaybetmiş durumda. Bunu bir delinin çığlık atması ile bir kadının çığlık atması olarak karşılaştırabilirsiniz.
Mahallenin delisi çığlık attığında kimse sallamaz ancak gece vakti mahallede bir kadın veya çocuk çığlık attığında herkes balkona pencereye çıkar.

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Filistinlilerin TRT world instagram hesabında 100. Yıl donanma geçit töreninde yaptıkları yorumlar.
Bakın Avrupa ve Asya ülkeleri iki yüzlü Amerika ve İsrail zaten eli kanlı ülkeler bunda hepimiz hem fikiriz, ancak müslümanlar olarak şapkayı önümüze koyup düşünmemiz gerekiyor
Fanatiklik ve radikalizm sadece ama sadece kaybettirir. Cinnet halinde savaş kazanılmaz. Dünya'nın islam alemine, ortadoğuya sırtını dönmesi ve kulaklarını tıkamasının sebebi budur. Akılsız ve ahlaksız bir coğrafyada acı ve keder BİTMEZ.
İslam alemi aklını kaybetmiş durumda. Bunu bir delinin çığlık atması ile bir kadının çığlık atması olarak karşılaştırabilirsiniz.
Mahallenin delisi çığlık attığında kimse sallamaz ancak gece vakti mahallede bir kadın veya çocuk çığlık attığında herkes balkona pencereye çıkar.

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If we would have those lands nowadays, I'm pretty sure that we would see many concrete structure by now as it was in Uzungol
When civilisation collapses and the world heals this place will be untouched.

I think this what we need over ugly modern day cities with their shitty skyscrapers.
Chinese will build shitty skyscrapers there soon.
 

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Filistinlilerin TRT world instagram hesabında 100. Yıl donanma geçit töreninde yaptıkları yorumlar.
Bakın Avrupa ve Asya ülkeleri iki yüzlü Amerika ve İsrail zaten eli kanlı ülkeler bunda hepimiz hem fikiriz, ancak müslümanlar olarak şapkayı önümüze koyup düşünmemiz gerekiyor
Fanatiklik ve radikalizm sadece ama sadece kaybettirir. Cinnet halinde savaş kazanılmaz. Dünya'nın islam alemine, ortadoğuya sırtını dönmesi ve kulaklarını tıkamasının sebebi budur. Akılsız ve ahlaksız bir coğrafyada acı ve keder BİTMEZ.
İslam alemi aklını kaybetmiş durumda. Bunu bir delinin çığlık atması ile bir kadının çığlık atması olarak karşılaştırabilirsiniz.
Mahallenin delisi çığlık attığında kimse sallamaz ancak gece vakti mahallede bir kadın veya çocuk çığlık attığında herkes balkona pencereye çıkar.

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Ulan they think going to war is like Age of Empires or Total War series.

Seriously this mentality of Ertugurl and kurtlar vadisi needs to fcking die off.

Nobody can go in there guns blazing.

I dont want to hear sons of Seljuks or Sons of Ottomans.

Ottoman Empire is dead the Seljuk empire is dead. All of our forefathers who conquered world are dead.

Seriously people need to lay off begging for a saviour or a dead person to come.

Let them rest in peace. Turkiye has already more than enough problems to deal with.

If its an Ummah problem they should stop blaming Turkiye when other countries do fck all.
 

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Ulan they think going to war is like Age of Empires or Total War series.

Seriously this mentality of Ertugurl and kurtlar vadisi needs to fcking die off.

Nobody can go in there guns blazing.

I dont want to hear sons of Seljuks or Sons of Ottomans.

Ottoman Empire is dead the Seljuk empire is dead. All of our forefathers who conquered world are dead.

Seriously people need to lay off begging for a saviour or a dead person to come.

Let them rest in peace. Turkiye has already more than enough problems to deal with.

If its an Ummah problem they should stop blaming Turkiye when other countries do fck all.
We need libya oil but dont need gaza....
 

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not oil we are not there for oil we are there for mavi vatan as well as 50 billion dollars that Gadhafi had debt to us we need to collect that money
I meant our economy need much more oil.The oil from mavi vatan is still not enough for our economy.

That s why we have to deal with the Arabs.In the past we didnt need so much oil that we can just ignore the arabs.
 

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I meant our economy need much more oil.The oil from mavi vatan is still not enough for our economy.

That s why we have to deal with the Arabs.In the past we didnt need so much oil that we can just ignore the arabs.
we are and we can buy more oil and gas from turkic countries arab oil are not as important as islamist are presenting resources of turan as endless
 

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we are and we can buy more oil and gas from turkic countries arab oil are not as important as islamist are presenting resources of turan as endless
I think AKP is controlled by Qatar and gulf money now. Because of our terrible economy.

Turkic countries are full of natural resource but robbed by Russian ,so they arent as rich as Arab Gulf countries.

Finally hopefully we will back to turkic countries,ukraine war made this much more possible.
 

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