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We and malaysia are the only moslem majority country left who never recognize Israel as a country .
And yet , we don't have any meaningfull means to make anything different at present .

Btw , who was saying Ukranians get bailed unlimitedly before ??
Bangladesh, Iran, Maldives, Mauritania, Sudan.

But scrolling through the comments section, Palestinians have a very good impression on Indonesian people, remember we are not Arabs yet we never justify anything to "normalize"… not for money, not for anything.

I guess Indonesian people will have a special standings in the future among Palestinians even more so than the Arabs of Arabia due to our standings we chose today.
 

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Bangladesh, Iran, Maldives, Mauritania, Sudan.

But scrolling through the comments section, Palestinians have a very good impression on Indonesian people, remember we are not Arabs yet we never justify anything to "normalize"… not for money, not for anything.

I guess Indonesian people will have a special standings in the future among Palestinians even more so than the Arabs of Arabia due to our standings we chose today.
I stand by corrected ...
 

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Jackson Hinkle spreads lies 24/7 with his BS account.

I believe that Israeli woman, on some radio station , confirmed as the eye witness Hinkels story. It was the same in the regards of so called 40 babies, it was confirmed as as the misinformation by IDF to Anadolu Agency, wasn't it?
What I don't understand about you, what all things got to do with you, as Korean ? Are you Anti Semetic? Arabs are Semetics ?
 

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Alright folks, why are you guys so worked up? No personal insults please. Let’s keep it civil.
 

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Phulll Saaapport Saar, you see it is not me to be blamed here that the language inflation is rampant. As soon as you mentioned " Facts" it tell me that it is a just helping word to make you look serious. But let's have the " facts" , shall we ? According to Heretz and other Israeli sources, almost all killed were military or military age , no babies. According to the person who was present at music festival, the majority of killings was done by Israeli helicopters , she said that 3 weeks ago. According to idf spokesman and his twitt( which he deleted after 2 minutes ) Baptist hospital was bombed. So all if your so called Facts were contradicted by Israelis themselves, but I guess you know better?
Of course, this is immaterial to you as you are a member of an army of Indian trolls , which for years do similar things.
So , Phullll Saaaport Saaar.
Ps , a person said some time ago " Stupid people throw so many so called facts at you and try to win argument by the stubbornness "
I never said any of those things only thing i said is that the whole photo journalist thing being claimed is bogus and indian trolls will not be kind to the people and their freedom fighters who have an awfull tendency of coming to kashmir and killing Indian civilians and killing an indian airhostess lol. So just winddown and chill in whichever western nation you are now in 🤣
 

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I believe that Israeli woman, on some radio station , confirmed as the eye witness Hinkels story. It was the same in the regards of so called 40 babies, it was confirmed as as the misinformation by IDF to Anadolu Agency, wasn't it?
What I don't understand about you, what all things got to do with you, as Korean ? Are you Anti Semetic? Arabs are Semetics ?
It‘s a conflict that interests me and practically the majority of world‘s audience. Counter-question: What does it concern you as a Bosnian? Because you‘re Muslim? Don‘t try to lecture me, I know the ethnicity of „Semites“ and etymology of „anti-semitic“.

I‘m pro-Israel and you are pro-Palestine. This forum is a discussion place for contrary opinions on defense and geopolitical matters.

That Twitter guy is spreading lies and posting a video that doesn‘t show IDF Apache mowing down Israeli civilians. So far there‘s no video proof only eyewitness reports of such an incident of „indiscriminate firing“ on civilians by the IDF during the 7th October Hamas attack.
 

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It‘s a conflict that interests me and practically the majority of world‘s audience. Counter-question: What does it concern you as a Bosnian? Because you‘re Muslim? Don‘t try to lecture me, I know the ethnicity of „Semites“ and etymology of „anti-semitic“.

I‘m pro-Israel and you are pro-Palestine. This forum is a discussion place for contrary opinions on defense and geopolitical matters.

That Twitter guy is spreading lies and posting a video that doesn‘t show IDF Apache mowing down Israeli civilians. So far there‘s no video proof only eyewitness reports of such an incident of „indiscriminate firing“ on civilians by the IDF during the 7th October Hamas attack.

We have Hamas GoPro videos of them executing civilians
 

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Regardless of what people think of Erdogan.

He hits the spot right here.
How about this...Erdogan stopped supplying the Ukrainian army with "free" weapons and stopped guaranteeing the Black Sea grain deal. Thereby sabotaging the Ukrainian economy and war effort.

At this point, Erdogan's talks are just that, talks. he has the cards to turn his "concern" into something that hurts the West and makes his "talking point" a bit more respected. I find it funny that an Islamist like Erdogan still helps Ukraine when:

1. Its president is a jew
2. It openly sided with Israel

Maybe once he does that, people will take notice, and he won't have to repeat the same thing over and over again.

This is politic, even if he manages that "bingo" in delivering his talking points, it amounts to nothing.
 
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It‘s a conflict that interests me and practically the majority of world‘s audience. Counter-question: What does it concern you as a Bosnian? Because your Muslim? Don‘t try to lecture me, I know the etymology of the wording „anti-semitic“ or

I‘m pro-Israel and you are pro-Palestine. This forum is a discussion place for contrary opinions on defense and geopolitical matters.

That Twitter guy is spreading lies and posting a video that doesn‘t showing IDF Apache NOT mowing down civilians. So far there‘s no video proof only eyewitness reports of such an incident of „indiscriminate firing“ on civilians by the IDF during the 7th October Hamas attack.
As Bosnian why it interests me? Well the least I can say that Bahram Pasha Sokolovic ( you can say that family is related to me) had the charitable holding in the Gaza city centre . Jazzar Pasha was governor there. You see 26 Bosnians were Grand Veziers of Ottoman Empire. Let say some related to me were there 1917 Yildirim Group etc.
You see , I don't mind people taking the sides and having the interest in the subject but what I minde is the lack of any objectivity.
Let's know this nail on the head.
If and it is big if Hamas fighters killed someone who is innocent then the commander of that unit can be called for the war crimes. Those acts, if they really happened, were on the individual commanders watch. The extrapolation of the Jews is not political or military goal of Hamas.
On other hand , there are so many statements, open additions, encouragements etc from Israeli side that according to the International Law , already they can be charged with doing genocide, abating , fascinating and covering the genocide. It is obviously the state policy. Of course, let alone what can be found in the documents etc.
The same thing can be said for the foreign actors. DeutcheWell and their justification of the massacre of the civilians?! Having said that, seemingly you at mo point question these realities , though you claim the objectivity.
As I have said before, If Israeli festival goer, publicly on the radio says " Israeli army did the majority of killings then who you are to tell otherwise? Just the interested observer? Since we know now by the official record that only one Israeli infant died then , shouldn't some sort of the apology or reservations come from your side or you will carry on with " lies and propaganda from Hinkle"?
All of that , clearly tells me that you are biased, but if so at least show some honesty.
Bosnian you say? Kamil Rustemovic 1948 as the officer of Lebanese army killed 15 Jewish soldiers. Probably Gigi Haddid is a Bosnian. Etc . As you can see , we have a lot more then you or random Indian , interests and history there.
 

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We have Hamas GoPro videos of them executing civilians
The Bosnian member was referring to reports of Israeli security forces firing on their own Israeli civilians during fights with Hamas.

That armed Hamas members killed Israeli civilians is without doubt and proven through their own social media posts and gopro clips. Beheadings of babies an obvious Israeli propaganda piece that I didn’t believe the moment I heard of it. Both sides are full of shit when trying to win the propaganda war.
 

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The Bosnian member was referring to reports of Israeli security forces firing on their own Israeli civilians during fights with Hamas.

That armed Hamas members killed Israeli civilians is without doubt and proven through their own social media posts and gopro clips. Beheadings of babies an obvious Israeli propaganda piece that I didn’t believe the moment I heard of it. Both sides are full of shit when trying to win the propaganda war.
Didn't I write, those are an individual occursnces , it is not the policy of Hamas, but the calls and acts if genocide were OFFICIALLY COMMITTED BY THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT. NO?
 

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I am in Western nation but I am a European. So I have a choice but you don't. Kashmir is illegally occupied territory. No one in Kashmir burned thousands of people alive. By the way let's be consistent here , leave all Islamic countries and return all the investments and leave Western countries. Don't tell me where I should or shouldn't be , as I am of the same looks , important to you, and the same blood as the Westerners. You aren't, so don't worry about threat to to the race you don't belong nor have anything in common, especially to me .
Clear?
Lo they will throw you out 🤣 first stay in your country instead of larping something you are not. Muh me uropean ree you leev western countries your so callee western biraders are the ones who are helping out in thr destruction of gaza
 
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How about this...Erdogan stopped supplying the Ukrainian army with "free" weapons and stopped guaranteeing the Black Sea grain deal. Thereby sabotaging the Ukrainian economy and war effort.

At this point, Erdogan's talks are just that, talks. he has the cards to turn his "concern" into something that hurts the West and makes his "talking point" a bit more respected. I find it funny that an Islamist like Erdogan still helps Ukraine when:

1. Its president is a jew
2. It openly sided with Israel

Maybe once he does that, people will take notice, and he won't have to repeat the same thing over and over again.

This is politic, even if he manages that "bingo" in delivering his talking points, it amounts to nothing.

Thats my biggest criticism of Erdogan.

All he ever does is barks.

I do believe Turkiye should lead an independant foreign policy and follow its destiny.

But this cant be done with Erdogan unfortunately.
 

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So far there‘s no video proof only eyewitness reports of such an incident of „indiscriminate firing“ on civilians by the IDF during the 7th October Hamas attack.

I mean, sure IDF didn't video their engagements with Hamas militants.
But along with multiple eyewitness reported by credible Israeli news papers, we have compelling visual of aftermath of totally destroyed and half-destroyed homes.

And there is no way RPG or anything else that Hamas light infantry could've brought can cause that kind of damage. They clearly indicates heavy Israeli shelling. (Tanks, IFVs)
 

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As Bosnian why it interests me? Well the least I can say that Bahram Pasha Sokolovic ( you can say that family is related to me) had the charitable holding in the Gaza city centre . Jazzar Pasha was governor there. You see 26 Bosnians were Grand Veziers of Ottoman Empire. Let say some related to me were there 1917 Yildirim Group etc.
You see , I don't mind people taking the sides and having the interest in the subject but what I minde is the lack of any objectivity.
Let's know this nail on the head.
If and it is big if Hamas fighters killed someone who is innocent then the commander of that unit can be called for the war crimes. Those acts, if they really happened, were on the individual commanders watch. The extrapolation of the Jews is not political or military goal of Hamas.
On other hand , there are so many statements, open additions, encouragements etc from Israeli side that according to the International Law , already they can be charged with doing genocide, abating , fascinating and covering the genocide. It is obviously the state policy. Of course, let alone what can be found in the documents etc.
The same thing can be said for the foreign actors. DeutcheWell and their justification of the massacre of the civilians?! Having said that, seemingly you at mo point question these realities , though you claim the objectivity.
As I have said before, If Israeli festival goer, publicly on the radio says " Israeli army did the majority of killings then who you are to tell otherwise? Just the interested observer? Since we know now by the official record that only one Israeli infant died then , shouldn't some sort of the apology or reservations come from your side or you will carry on with " lies and propaganda from Hinkle"?
All of that , clearly tells me that you are biased, but if so at least show some honesty.
Bosnian you say? Kamil Rustemovic 1948 as the officer of Lebanese army killed 15 Jewish soldiers. Probably Gigi Haddid is a Bosnian. Etc . As you can see , we have a lot more then you or random Indian , interests and history there.
Killing 1.400+ Israelis (soldiers, women, elderly, children) isn‘t an „individual“ occurence, it‘s a pattern. Then taking 240 civilians as hostages is also an individual strategy?

Calling me biased but not recognizing your own partsianship is laughable at best. I don‘t claim objectivity, I‘m pro-Israel. But I’ll call a blatant lie by twitter propagandists what it is. Get used to it.
 

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