Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Tornadoss]

Very good.

The war in Ukraine is now 2 years underway and the Western media has interviewed the moneybegging Clown Zelensky (who has a Israeli passport) maybe a hundred times.

Interviews with Putin: 0.

This is enough to know that the West should not be supported against Russia.

I am gonna celebrate the day that the European Union goes bankrupt and Russian troops march to Berlin.

And warmongering Canadians like Relic can continue tho cheer how much Western tax money dissapears in the pockets of corrupt Ukrainian-Jewish officials.

I wonder whether your anger towards Zelensky is just because he is Jewish. And in another thread you were saying you are caring about human life. It seems you only care about Palestinians lives.

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Without Nukes on the table there is nothing Russia can do against NATO countries.

 

[Gary]

Great. Then let's imagine that Putin absorbed all these countries, occupied them and restored them within the borders of the USSR with a population of 280 million people. Let's imagine that he decided to lead his million-strong army further. But not to Europe, but to Asia. Let's say, towards Southeast Asia. There are vast territories, a wonderful climate, fertile lands and hundreds of millions of people that you can add to your empire. For example, Malaysia or Guinea. And Singapore! What wealth! And what a wonderful geostrategic position! But the population is small. But let’s not be upset, fortunately for Putin, and apparently for you too, there should be another country nearby with a huge population of 280 million! If we occupy these lands and annex them to the Russian Empire! That's 560 million people combined! This is colossal! What else does the emperor need?! How do you look at this prospect, dear Gary? In my opinion, all this should please you!

From a careful goe-strategic analysis, I would suggest Russia backs down from such a plan, Southeast Asia is too far away and the physical body in the form of water that separates Russia from SE Asia would make such an adventure ludicrously expensive. IMO, the next expansion after Ukraine should be (as Tatarigami from X suggests) the Baltics, if the situation permits. Once the Baltics are in hand, that means either:

1. NATO is dead
2. The U.S. cease to be a superpower that is capable of projecting power and stop Russia

From there Russia should use the manpower from acquired land to adventure North, towards Finland. Finland might not have that many population, but what they have is a huge real estate in the form of land (est 338,472 sq km) and coastline (31,119 km (19,336 mi)) That would guarantee security to Saint Petersburg and the ability of the Baltic fleet to sortie towards the Baltics unopposed by the Gulf of Finland.

A successful absorption of Finland technically means that Russia is a stone's throw away from securing Norway's long coastline and removing the threat towards the Russian navy's base in Murmansk (HQ of the Northern fleet).

Absorption of Norway into Russia's private property meant that the Russian long-range bomber group would have absolute free reign in the GIUK gap and flying from newly acquired bases in Bodo and Orland threatens shipping in this increasingly crucial shipping line.

So it's going to be Baltics >>> Finland >>> Norway. In the first phase

For the Next phase, it's up to Russia. They could absorb Sweden and turn an estimated 3,218 km of coastline into the previously added coastline from neighboring Baltic states and Finland and turn the Baltics into a Russian lake or turn the gun towards Poland.

This is in my opinion, a more sound strategic goals for Russia and put into account Russia's unique security concerns

 

[Scott Summers]

NATO is braindead, like Macron said.

And without the US and Turkey they are a little bit stronger than Sri Lanka.

If Trump leaves NATO, Erdogan will do the same.

Meanwhile, Russia is bombing weapon plants in Ukraine.

Russia strikes Ukrainian defense industry facilities – MOD​

Enterprises producing naval drones and various types of missiles were hit, the Defense Ministry in Moscow has said

Russia strikes Ukrainian defense industry facilities – MOD

Ukrainian enterprises producing naval drones and missiles were targeted in an airstrike, the Russian Defense Ministry has said

www.rt.com

 

[Scott Summers]

I wonder whether your anger towards Zelensky is just because he is Jewish. And in another thread you were saying you are caring about human life. It seems you only care about Palestinians lives.


Without Nukes on the table there is nothing Russia can do against NATO countries.

I didnt know he was a zionist when he came to power. He is a comedian who mocked the Turkish people, the Ottomans and the Turkish president in his shows.

Why the hell is Turkish taxpayer money going to his pockets? I dont care if a Russian rocket hits his head.

And i am not a cheerleader who shouts "MaY tHe BeSt WiN iN tHe IsRaEli PaLeStİnİaN cOnFlİcT"!

People clearly have no idea here what the definition of wars are.

 

[Gary]

I didnt know he was a zionist when he came to power. He is a comedian who mocked the Turkish people, the Ottomans and the Turkish president in his shows.

This is why I'm always against people from an entertainment background as president. Entertainment these days is basically denigrating fellow humans and making a mockery of everything without limit. From flags, religions, people, countries, etc.

You never know when their "jokes" will hit you (and the interests of the country) back. All because of a single person and his stupid jokes.

 

[Gary]

This is why I'm always against people from an entertainment background as president. Entertainment these days is basically denigrating fellow humans and making a mockery of everything without limit. From flags, religions, people, countries, etc.

You never know when their "jokes" will hit you (and the interests of the country) back. All because of a single person and his stupid jokes.

Except of course if the president is Ronald Reagan

 

[Scott Summers]

Except of course if the president is Ronald Reagan

And Imran Khan.

 

[Gary]

There are talks on X that Ukraine is withdrawing from Avdiivka through the only land they could, the open fields West of the city

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1755251798607032510

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1755255513896390930

I think a week is enough to expect a Russian takeover of Avdiivka.

 

[Tornadoss]

I didnt know he was a zionist when he came to power. He is a comedian who mocked the Turkish people, the Ottomans and the Turkish president in his shows.

Why the hell is Turkish taxpayer money going to his pockets? I dont care if a Russian rocket hits his head.

And i am not a cheerleader who shouts "MaY tHe BeSt WiN iN tHe IsRaEli PaLeStİnİaN cOnFlİcT"!

People clearly have no idea here what the definition of wars are.

He was a comedian in the past so what? We have worse politicians. Any Ukrainian would defend their country against the aggressor Russia. He is doing whatever necessary for his country. I am not sure how our tax money is going his pocket. However, I now my tax money is going to the terrorists like Hamas. You would not side with the Russians if you would care about peoples, innocent people dying in Ukraine as well, but you don't care about them as they are not muslim?

 

[Gary]

What appears to be an out of control Ukrainian air defense missile slamming into an apartment block.

A cruise Missile hit would have resulted in an entire block razed

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1755153816658346354

 

[Relic]

USA Senate will likely vote in favour of $60.1 Billion usd in additional military aid for Ukraine this afternoon. We don't yet know at this time how the bill will do in the House of Representatives, but it has a much better chance of passing because it's tied directly to $14.6 Billion usd in aid for Israel and the border legislation that Republicans oppose will be stripped from it.

The far right of the Republica majority in the House of Representatives has threatened to vote to remove the Speaker of the House if he tables a bill with additional Ukraine aid, however, in a dhow of solidarity, the Democrats in the House have told Speaker Johnson that they will actually vote to save him if he tables the bill and his own party tries to remove him.

Bad news for Russia. One way or another, $60.1 Billion usd worth of additional military aid for Ukraine, including $45 Billion usd worth of Presidential Drawdown Authority and USAI will pass. In less than 6 weeks USA + EU + Britain + Canada will announce a total of $113 Billion usd worth of additional military aid and macro financial aid for Ukraine. That's on top of the $45 Billion usd Ukraine will spend on the war in 2024. When you add in additional support from Allied countries, Ukraine will have $150+ Billion usd in additional war funding....

Exactly as I said would happen several months back, despite substantial pushback by the Russian supporters in this thread.

 

[Gary]

In a world where people can be everything, they choose to be a criminal

Shame

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1755259473038319866

 

[Soldier30]

Flight of Ukrainian SCALP missiles over the S-300 air defense system, overview of the situation. Footage of the flight of two Ukrainian Storm Shadow or SCALP missiles of British-French production has been published. Above the Russian S-300 or S-400 air defense system in Crimea. The missiles were allegedly flying towards the Belbek airfield. Let's start with the fact that from the video it is not at all clear to what degree of readiness the air defense system was. Soldiers are visible walking, an operator looks out from one car, and from another, soldiers got out and are standing next to the car. The flight of two missiles in this situation is quite possible. The fact is that the S-300 or S-400 air defense system should be equipped with a 40V6MD mobile tower, with a 76N6 low-altitude detector designed to detect low-flying targets, but they are not in the video. Ideally, for better detection of low-flying targets, the S-400 air defense system should receive data from AWACS aircraft or balloons. Without these systems, the complex may simply not see low-flying targets in a timely manner. It is also worth noting that the S-400 air defense system should be covered by the Pantsir-S1 air defense system or the Tor-M2 air defense system, which are more effective against low-flying targets. According to the latest data from specialized resources, in the video of the S-400 air defense system, the complex did not include a 40V6MD mobile tower with a target illumination station, which is why it was not possible to hit the missiles in time.

 

[Soldier30]

Rare footage of the Su-34 attack and the explosion in the air of the Russian FAB-500M62 aerial bomb has been published. The video shows an attack with four bombs on Ukrainian army hangars used for storing equipment. The video was filmed in Volchansk in the Kharkov region. Notice that the third bomb exploded in mid-air. The FAB-500M62 aircraft bomb contains 213 kilograms of explosive.

 

[Relic]

Flight of Ukrainian SCALP missiles over the S-300 air defense system, overview of the situation. Footage of the flight of two Ukrainian Storm Shadow or SCALP missiles of British-French production has been published. Above the Russian S-300 or S-400 air defense system in Crimea. The missiles were allegedly flying towards the Belbek airfield. Let's start with the fact that from the video it is not at all clear to what degree of readiness the air defense system was. Soldiers are visible walking, an operator looks out from one car, and from another, soldiers got out and are standing next to the car. The flight of two missiles in this situation is quite possible. The fact is that the S-300 or S-400 air defense system should be equipped with a 40V6MD mobile tower, with a 76N6 low-altitude detector designed to detect low-flying targets, but they are not in the video. Ideally, for better detection of low-flying targets, the S-400 air defense system should receive data from AWACS aircraft or balloons. Without these systems, the complex may simply not see low-flying targets in a timely manner. It is also worth noting that the S-400 air defense system should be covered by the Pantsir-S1 air defense system or the Tor-M2 air defense system, which are more effective against low-flying targets. According to the latest data from specialized resources, in the video of the S-400 air defense system, the complex did not include a 40V6MD mobile tower with a target illumination station, which is why it was not possible to hit the missiles in time.

Whether the published video is accurate or not, the fact still stands that Ukraine was easily able to get Stormshadow cruise missiles through Russian air defense air Belbek, destroying the command center at the airfield and killing base commander, Lieutenant General Alexander Tatarenko and his staff, per multiple sources. Other reports indicated that Russia also lost multiple aircraft in the strike.

The reality of the situation is that Russian air defense proved ineffective at Belbek, which should be deeply concerning for Russia, as they've seen other key assets also destroyed when their "vaunted" air defense failed. The helicopter base at Berdyansk, for example, fell victim to ancient American ATAM missiles. Russia had no answer in that scenario.

Russian General Alexander Tatarenko 'Killed in Ukraine's Belbek Air Base Strike'

Lieutenant General Alexander Tatarenko was in overall charge of the Belbek air base, the most-developed and best-defended air force base in the Black Sea region.

www.kyivpost.com

Crimea air base attack sees top air force general 'liquidated': Report

Russian Air Force Lieutenant General Alexander Tatarenko was reportedly killed during a strike on the Belbek military airfield.

www.newsweek.com

Media: russian General Tatarenko killed in strike on Belbek airfield | УНН

УНН War ✎ As a result of a strike on the russian-occupied Belbek airfield in Crimea, russian Lieutenant General Alexander Tatarenko was probably killed

www.google.com

 

[UkroTurk]

Zircon Missile Used For Strike on Kyiv: Apparently, the russian "Wunderwaffe" Was Shot Down

Zircon Missile Used For Strike on Kyiv: Apparently, the russian "Wunderwaffe" Was Shot Down | Defense Express

Multiple indications suggest that russian forces launched their "hypersonic" Zircon missile on February 7th, and it might be not the first time

en.defence-ua.com

 

[Spitfire9]

Do you think this war is happened because of Zelensky or Ukranians?

Sure. Ukraine conducted hundreds of air and missile strikes against Russia and invaded it with armoured vehicles and tens of thousands of troops. didn't it?

Or have I got that wrong?

 

[Relic]

Sure. Ukraine conducted hundreds of air and missile strikes against Russia and invaded it with armoured vehicles and tens of thousands of troops. didn't it?

Or have I got that wrong?

I seem to remember an armored vehicle convoy, dozens of miles in length, made up of Russians looking to take over....

Oh wait, that was Kyiv... And thankfully, most of them are dead now, or have returned home to further abuse their farm animals and find out that their Tic Toc dreams are over.