TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

[TheInsider]

TOMTAŞ factory production capacity target
7 HÜRJETs in 2025,
24 HÜRJETs in 2026,
In 2027 (24 HÜRJETs if ordered by Spain)

I think the production of Hürküş will continue in Ankara.

Hürjet and Hürkuş should be produced by TOMTAŞ. This will free many hands at TUSAŞ and will keep TOMTAŞ alive.

 

[mTT]

Dr. Mehmet Demiroğlu, General Manager of TAI:

The lines are full in HÜRKUŞ. We plan to deliver 10 of them this year.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1919347959059071268

 

[Strong AI]

Just for clarifying. Turkeye had a local modernization program for F-16 Block 30 and 40 and that is more than 130 plane I gues. So how long will the program take to be completed? And how good is this modernization?

@sh. Abdj the answer is in this thread. Search for Özgür.

 

[sh. Abdj]

Why Turkeye should have at least 200+ Hurkus woth dual use?

1. As Hurkus 2 had reached maturity level and is among the best its class, the production line should continue for a decade or two for maximum benefit and to replace many older aircraft in the cheap training, cheap light attack category world wide.
2. This category had hike in demand as most countries don't want to send expensive fighters to fight insurgents with no real Air defence capabilities.
3. Its among the few Turkish weapons in the air force that can be developed to provide close air support similar to the A 10.
4. It is good for teaching Syrian, and Libyan allies pilots.
5. It can do very low flights between the mountains and attack in Sea and land surprising enemy forces and causing real damage using weapons already available. A task that is very hard for drones to do.
6. It can be developed to manage drones and extend their range without the need of Satellite capabilities on the drones like TB2 Simsek ...
7. The development of new concepts using the Hurkus will bring big demand on it especially for countries who bought TB2.

 

[sh. Abdj]

@sh. Abdj the answer is in this thread. Search for Özgür.

Thank you I found that the Özgür 2 program will be finalized in 2027. But does that mean theydone or agreed on? And the number of aircrafts to be developed under the program is not mentioned.

 

[Strong AI]

Thank you I found that the Özgür 2 program will be finalized in 2027. But does that mean theydone or agreed on? And the number of aircrafts to be developed under the program is not mentioned.

Afaik they are waiting for the Murad AESA Radar to go in serial production. Currently they are testing the Radar with different platforms.
Since Türkiye put the purchase of Viper and Viper modernization kits on ice, they plan to apply Özgür project to almost all F-16s in TurAF's inventory.

 

[Pokemonte13]

im guessing it will start then because Murad is supposed to go in to production in 2026. Probably the aircraft that went to özgür 1 will also go through özgür 2 but this time it will be faster as the main difference will be the new radar.

 

[boredaf]

Why Turkeye should have at least 200+ Hurkus woth dual use?

I swear, a lot of you have no concept of resources or manpower in real life and talk about all these acquisitions as if they are video games. Yes, let's get 200 Hürkuş, 500 Kaan, 100 Siper, 1000 Altay, just put them in the build queue.

Where are the pilots are going to come from for all those planes? Where are we going to keep them? How are we going to build and arm them? Fuel them? Find and train and equip all the ground crew they need?

Trainers for air force and 1 or 2 squadron for JÖH to use as Recon/CAS (if they want it, though they have bought trainers so, I think they might) is more than enough for us, any other country can buy them to their hearts content.

Also, your rest of your comment smells like ChatGpt, I hope its not.

 

[sh. Abdj]

I swear, a lot of you have no concept of resources or manpower in real life and talk about all these acquisitions as if they are video games. Yes, let's get 200 Hürkuş, 500 Kaan, 100 Siper, 1000 Altay, just put them in the build queue.

Where are the pilots are going to come from for all those planes? Where are we going to keep them? How are we going to build and arm them? Fuel them? Find and train and equip all the ground crew they need?

Trainers for air force and 1 or 2 squadron for JÖH to use as Recon/CAS (if they want it, though they have bought trainers so, I think they might) is more than enough for us, any other country can buy them to their hearts content.

Also, your rest of your comment smells like ChatGpt, I hope its not.

Bro read this

https://www.twz.com/air/can-the-oa-1k-skryraider-ii-actually-be-useful-in-a-pacific-fight

This the US Military working on this concept.

Sure this aircraft is not deep penetration one but it can be a workhose. I is cheap for first levels of training, cheap for Attacking insurgents, with small changes can work on close support, and can work special defensive tactics.

And no I didn't use ChatGBT and this is an insult for my intelligence and a complement for my English.

Anyway the problem is very clear. Some of us view Turkeye as a medium power that should be as strong as any EU Military (Specially: Germany, france) and some of us think Turkey have to be close in power to Russia and have at least third of USA and nearby future China power. Turkeye existence in my point of view depends on it being powerful first then other things. And if Turks doesn't want what is happening in Ukraine and maybe in worst scenario what is happening in Palestine and Lebanon to happen to them they should continue pushing there security zone what ever the cost is. By the way I mentioned before that Turkey security starts from Damascus in the south and Baku in the east and soon it should be more far in all directions not by invasion but by PR and Alliances. The war of independence should be a clear lesson that yes Turkeye enemies can come from all directions and in the same time. Turkeye needs to expand its military not only modernize as what it is facing can't be compared to what Germany, france or eve Japan is facing. And some military teachings and theories are made to keep countries under some control. And let us ask US who spread these theories why they have all this enormous Military. Deterrence needs power alot of power. If Russia depended on new theories its professional Army would have been finished long time ago but what saved it is the big numbers inherited fro USSR. And who on earth will tell Iran to build thousands of Ballistic Missiles and tens of thousands of long kamikaze drone which is more than Russia in number? And do you think Iran would have been left all this time if not for this big amounts after most of its Allies got weakened so much?! You have to be innovative and you have to take advantage what you have, and yes numbers matters the most in case a war turned to War of attrition then comes production capacity.