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We were 135 by FDI recieved as percentage of GDP in 2023, below Sudan.
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For those living in la la land; we have been regressing on all these fronts for the past 10 years.
 

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What a fcking idiot.

Its even worse how he uses history to justify it.

Ottomans and the Seljuks all gave autonomy what happened? They lost their empires in the long run.

Resmen gerizekalik. Turkiye has so many non Turks what next give the Laz autonomy? Next is the Circassians then comes the Bosnians?

How about Istanbul? Istanbulus will now be asking why should we be taking care of Turkiye give us autonomy.

I think Turkiye is finished in the long run. All because of Erdogan, akp, chp, bahceli and his mhp.

They all sold their own country. I do feel like artik the breaking point is coming soon. I wont be surprised if they want this forum shut down because it hurts Tayyips fragile ego.
 

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I hope Muslim Turks not just them all the Turks wake up artik. Put your politics, ideologies and religions aside.

Erdogan and the akp are not your friends.
 

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I'm hoping protests start growing again, I don't think this parasite will be removed democratically

Looks like all the things my father told me about Erdoğan, all the things I thought was just a crazy conspiracy when I was younger, all of it is true. Man is hellbent on destroying the nation.
 

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Man is hellbent on destroying the nation.
I don't think this parasite will be removed democratically



ismail hakki karadayı chief of general staff during 28 şubat forseen this in 1996 watch the video above eveything he siad have come to pass. he said islamist and PKK are hand in hand and islamist will use PKK for their own ends and they will come to power in legal way use all the benefits of democracy to come to power then silnce anyone who would think differently then them and most importantly he said " to think they willl leave in the same manner (democatic way) is a wishfull thinking "

just for more info army's recourse were divided in 2 group back then 1 was doğu çalişma gurubi which dealt with PKK and other one was batli çalişma grubu under the command of former 1st army's commander general çetin doğan which dealt with threat of irtica incuding fetö until this day general çetin doğan is the only person who succsesfully infiltrated tariat of fetullah gülen hence after 28 şubat all of its members were fired from army this started a fight between gülen and erbakan since gülen was angry becouse of erbakan's open overthrowing of republic and sharia statements in his eye if erbakan wasnt that radical there wouldnt have been any respond from army and they would have had more time to get into higher position in the army

everything ismail hakki karadayı have said have come to pass !!
 
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@Bogeyman @Oublious @Zafer

I know there's some obvious trolls here, but you guys seem more genuine and reasonable. Aren't you a little concerned with the path that Erdoğan is going down? The dictatorial stuff is one thing, but now he's offering autonomy. This is a very dangerous path. This is beyond simple politics and identity, secular vs conservative, etc. This is getting into dangerous territory for us all.
 

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@Bogeyman @Oublious @Zafer

I know there's some obvious trolls here, but you guys seem more genuine and reasonable. Aren't you a little concerned with the path that Erdoğan is going down? The dictatorial stuff is one thing, but now he's offering autonomy. This is a very dangerous path. This is beyond simple politics and identity, secular vs conservative, etc. This is getting into dangerous territory for us all.
AK Party electorate is more sensitive to wrongdoings in the government than any other electorate in the country. You can tell this from the drop of support in the local elections when public service workers' salaries marked up more than the pensioners and part of electorate didn't even go to the ballot boxes complaining about this imbalance. So when we see something that will harm Türkiye we do stop it from progressing. So far everything that happened made Türkiye stronger. Being stronger you can heal the wounds sustained in the past and get even healthier. I have no idea what will unfold after the latest statements but I am sure Türkiye will become even stronger with it as all I have seen so far have been very positive.

The opposition electorate on the other hand cherish corruption and become one with it.
 

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AK Party electorate is more sensitive to wrongdoings in the government than any other electorate in the country. You can tell this from the drop of support in the local elections when public service workers' salaries marked up more than the pensioners and part of electorate didn't even go to the ballot boxes complaining about this imbalance. So when we see something that will harm Türkiye we do stop it from progressing. So far everything that happened made Türkiye stronger. Being stronger you can heal the wounds sustained in the past and get even healthier. I have no idea what will unfold after the latest statements but I am sure Türkiye will become even stronger with it as all I have seen so far have been very positive.

The opposition electorate on the other hand cherish corruption and become one with it.
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I have no idea what will unfold after the latest statements but I am sure Türkiye will become even stronger with it as all I have seen so far have been very positive.

To put things into perspective

  • Turkish nationalist forces defeated 7 nations against all odds
  • In the early republic era multiple rebellions were decisively squashed
  • Plane factories were established
  • Hatay was regained without a drop of blood
  • In 1974 half of Cyprus captured and remains as the TRNC to this day
  • The defence industry was restarted and became more organized in the 80s
  • By the 90s, Türkiye was building Kobra APCs, MLRS, ballistic missiles and numerous other weapon systems, steadily moving towards more indigenous parts and designs
  • Türkiye was not only conducting highly effective cross border ops against PKK, but was also threatened both Greece and Syria to all out war, both counties backed the fuck out of it.
  • The castle plan was enacted, to destroy PKK by force, making them completely flee Turkish borders in the late 90s

When Erdoğan came to power
  • The hood incident happened
  • FETÖ forces fully infiltrated the military
  • PKK came back into Turkish territory
  • Türkiye followed US plans for Syria, but instead of building a proper Turkmen force, backed a bunch of rag tag groups who ended up being incompetent, allowing US-backed PKK, rebranded as SDF to take over most of Syria. They now hold power in the same government that we back.
  • Meanwhile in Iraq, there's an entire autonomous Kurdish region that suppresses Turkmens, yet nothing is done to counter this.
  • Iran has provided 358 loitering anti aircrat missiles, along with other drones/loitering munitions to PKK. Nothing is being done to counter them.
  • Cyprus actively arming up
  • There's 5 million documented, and probably 10+ million overall refugees in Türkiye, and there's thousands more coming in every week
  • FETÖ and PKK supporters are in the government

It's a shitshow. The only and only thing going good is the defence industry. And the only reason why it's going good is because the foundations were laid decades ago and held strong by the institutions that back it. Erdoğan simply inherited it.

You can tell me about geopolitics this and Hakan Fidan that, it's all a bunch of bs. We're punching way below our weight for a country of 80+ million, with a huge military in the most strategic land in the world. We can't use any of this to our advantage because ultimately votes matter more than anything else to a man sitting in a 1000 room palace with everything to lose. He'll sell out the southeast, make Türkiye defacto partitioned like Iraq is, gain millions of votes from Kurds and also keep your vote because you believe that it is part of some big strategic plan. Please snap back to reality. Erdogan hasn't made Türkiye stronger.
 

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To put things into perspective

  • Turkish nationalist forces defeated 7 nations against all odds
  • In the early republic era multiple rebellions were decisively squashed
  • Plane factories were established
  • Hatay was regained without a drop of blood
  • In 1974 half of Cyprus captured and remains as the TRNC to this day
  • The defence industry was restarted and became more organized in the 80s
  • By the 90s, Türkiye was building Kobra APCs, MLRS, ballistic missiles and numerous other weapon systems, steadily moving towards more indigenous parts and designs
  • Türkiye was not only conducting highly effective cross border ops against PKK, but was also threatened both Greece and Syria to all out war, both counties backed the fuck out of it.
  • The castle plan was enacted, to destroy PKK by force, making them completely flee Turkish borders in the late 90s

When Erdoğan came to power
  • The hood incident happened
  • FETÖ forces fully infiltrated the military
  • PKK came back into Turkish territory
  • Türkiye followed US plans for Syria, but instead of building a proper Turkmen force, backed a bunch of rag tag groups who ended up being incompetent, allowing US-backed PKK, rebranded as SDF to take over most of Syria. They now hold power in the same government that we back.
  • Meanwhile in Iraq, there's an entire autonomous Kurdish region that suppresses Turkmens, yet nothing is done to counter this.
  • Iran has provided 358 loitering anti aircrat missiles, along with other drones/loitering munitions to PKK. Nothing is being done to counter them.
  • Cyprus actively arming up
  • There's 5 million documented, and probably 10+ million overall refugees in Türkiye, and there's thousands more coming in every week
  • FETÖ and PKK supporters are in the government

It's a shitshow. The only and only thing going good is the defence industry. And the only reason why it's going good is because the foundations were laid decades ago and held strong by the institutions that back it. Erdoğan simply inherited it.

You can tell me about geopolitics this and Hakan Fidan that, it's all a bunch of bs. We're punching way below our weight for a country of 80+ million, with a huge military in the most strategic land in the world. We can't use any of this to our advantage because ultimately votes matter more than anything else to a man sitting in a 1000 room palace with everything to lose. He'll sell out the southeast, make Türkiye defacto partitioned like Iraq is, gain millions of votes from Kurds and also keep your vote because you believe that it is part of some big strategic plan. Please snap back to reality. Erdogan hasn't made Türkiye stronger.

He also shared his condolences to the Armenians which became bullets for countries to recognise the bullshit genocide.

He apologised for the Greek "pogrom" in Istanbul.
 

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He also shared his condolences to the Armenians which became bullets for countries to recognise the bullshit genocide.

He apologised for the Greek "pogrom" in Istanbul.

he also remove the guy who were defending us in vienna from head historian position
 

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prof.Dr yusuf halaçoğlu former head historian of turkey

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rahmetli adil serdar saçan former head of combating orginazed crime and the men who put adnan oktar leader of pedophile sex tarikat and jeffry epstine of turkey in jail he was removed from his position by erdogan. his name were blacked by nagehan alçi erdogan's personal journalist as she accused her of torture in police force without any proof and called it freedom of expression !

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rahmetli adil serdar saçan assasination attepmt by oktar's tarikat !

 

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To put things into perspective

  • Turkish nationalist forces defeated 7 nations against all odds
  • In the early republic era multiple rebellions were decisively squashed
  • Plane factories were established
  • Hatay was regained without a drop of blood
  • In 1974 half of Cyprus captured and remains as the TRNC to this day
  • The defence industry was restarted and became more organized in the 80s
  • By the 90s, Türkiye was building Kobra APCs, MLRS, ballistic missiles and numerous other weapon systems, steadily moving towards more indigenous parts and designs
  • Türkiye was not only conducting highly effective cross border ops against PKK, but was also threatened both Greece and Syria to all out war, both counties backed the fuck out of it.
  • The castle plan was enacted, to destroy PKK by force, making them completely flee Turkish borders in the late 90s

When Erdoğan came to power
  • The hood incident happened
  • FETÖ forces fully infiltrated the military
  • PKK came back into Turkish territory
  • Türkiye followed US plans for Syria, but instead of building a proper Turkmen force, backed a bunch of rag tag groups who ended up being incompetent, allowing US-backed PKK, rebranded as SDF to take over most of Syria. They now hold power in the same government that we back.
  • Meanwhile in Iraq, there's an entire autonomous Kurdish region that suppresses Turkmens, yet nothing is done to counter this.
  • Iran has provided 358 loitering anti aircrat missiles, along with other drones/loitering munitions to PKK. Nothing is being done to counter them.
  • Cyprus actively arming up
  • There's 5 million documented, and probably 10+ million overall refugees in Türkiye, and there's thousands more coming in every week
  • FETÖ and PKK supporters are in the government

It's a shitshow. The only and only thing going good is the defence industry. And the only reason why it's going good is because the foundations were laid decades ago and held strong by the institutions that back it. Erdoğan simply inherited it.

You can tell me about geopolitics this and Hakan Fidan that, it's all a bunch of bs. We're punching way below our weight for a country of 80+ million, with a huge military in the most strategic land in the world. We can't use any of this to our advantage because ultimately votes matter more than anything else to a man sitting in a 1000 room palace with everything to lose. He'll sell out the southeast, make Türkiye defacto partitioned like Iraq is, gain millions of votes from Kurds and also keep your vote because you believe that it is part of some big strategic plan. Please snap back to reality. Erdogan hasn't made Türkiye stronger.

When the Ottomans had just been annihilated by the end of world war 1, the four corners of the nation occupied by the most powerful states on earth at the time. The Turks with a tiny population under Ataturk's wise leadership were able to create Turkiye and throw the invaders out. A dead peoples were able to revive themselves against all odds.

Here we are today 80 million plus, The British and French empires really mean nothing anymore comparatively to Turkiye. The soviet union is dead, the population disparity between Turkiye and Russia rapidly closed from something like 9 million vs 120 million, towards 85 million vs 140 million. Not to mention the russian state as seen in Ukraine has become decayed and utterly corrupt.

Greece whose population was the same as Turkiyes during the last serious war between us a 100 years ago, sits today at about 10 million, with over half her population being old. Bulgaria is nothing, armenia is nothing, syria and iraq are nothing comparatively, Iran has buried her potential under a mad mullah theocratic regime.

Erdogan couldnt have ruled in an easier time since the foundation of the republic. Turkiye has never been this comfortable in her geography. So much time wasted, so much harm caused to the nation.
 

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To put things into perspective

  • Turkish nationalist forces defeated 7 nations against all odds
  • In the early republic era multiple rebellions were decisively squashed
  • Plane factories were established
  • Hatay was regained without a drop of blood
  • In 1974 half of Cyprus captured and remains as the TRNC to this day
  • The defence industry was restarted and became more organized in the 80s
  • By the 90s, Türkiye was building Kobra APCs, MLRS, ballistic missiles and numerous other weapon systems, steadily moving towards more indigenous parts and designs
  • Türkiye was not only conducting highly effective cross border ops against PKK, but was also threatened both Greece and Syria to all out war, both counties backed the fuck out of it.
  • The castle plan was enacted, to destroy PKK by force, making them completely flee Turkish borders in the late 90s

When Erdoğan came to power
  • The hood incident happened
  • FETÖ forces fully infiltrated the military
  • PKK came back into Turkish territory
  • Türkiye followed US plans for Syria, but instead of building a proper Turkmen force, backed a bunch of rag tag groups who ended up being incompetent, allowing US-backed PKK, rebranded as SDF to take over most of Syria. They now hold power in the same government that we back.
  • Meanwhile in Iraq, there's an entire autonomous Kurdish region that suppresses Turkmens, yet nothing is done to counter this.
  • Iran has provided 358 loitering anti aircrat missiles, along with other drones/loitering munitions to PKK. Nothing is being done to counter them.
  • Cyprus actively arming up
  • There's 5 million documented, and probably 10+ million overall refugees in Türkiye, and there's thousands more coming in every week
  • FETÖ and PKK supporters are in the government

It's a shitshow. The only and only thing going good is the defence industry. And the only reason why it's going good is because the foundations were laid decades ago and held strong by the institutions that back it. Erdoğan simply inherited it.

You can tell me about geopolitics this and Hakan Fidan that, it's all a bunch of bs. We're punching way below our weight for a country of 80+ million, with a huge military in the most strategic land in the world. We can't use any of this to our advantage because ultimately votes matter more than anything else to a man sitting in a 1000 room palace with everything to lose. He'll sell out the southeast, make Türkiye defacto partitioned like Iraq is, gain millions of votes from Kurds and also keep your vote because you believe that it is part of some big strategic plan. Please snap back to reality. Erdogan hasn't made Türkiye stronger.

I won't go back to the early years of the republic as it is not opened to discussion like it should be after 75 years past and things became historical.

AK Party fought gangs as it is written in its party program and took down FETÖ and PKK as well as others, and now Türkiye is to be marked as terror free.
Erdoğan brought power to the law and enforced law on criminals and gave them the punishment they deserved, no one can bully the Turkish state anymore.
Oh yes, may be the stray dog lovers still need some toning as it is the only bleeding wound remains to be healed.
Since Erdoğan, elections have been held on time and destabilizing early elections has become a thing of the past.

Erdoğan made peace with the Syrian government and is in the process of resuming the fortification of the backyard of Türkiye. Bringing peace and stability to Syria and Iraq also to the Caucasus even including Armenia. Which will in turn bring wealth and long term stability to the entire region.

Unemployment rate of male population is down to 6.5% being the lowest in 30 years. We should keep some of the skilled Syrian refugees rather than allowing them to leave as we will need more hands in our factories down the road.

A few years from now I want to fly in my private plane to the now terror free pastures of the east and the south and also take a tour in the vast land of friendly nations surrounding Türkiye; through Syria, Iraq, into the gulf region, towards Somalia, Sudan and Libya and back home over Greece. Have some rest to plan my next trip in a wider region, in any direction I want, in a plane powered by a Turkish made engine with fuel extracted from our friendly lands.
 

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took down FETÖ

AK Party fought gangs
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alaattin çakıcı arrested by adil serdar saçan freed by erdogan while adil serdar saçan was removed from his possition and arrested

also never ever have been in turkihs history kurdish mafiya was this strong ! also turkey became heaven for russian ukranian albanian persian afghan paki and arab mafiya

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Iranian mafiya leader celebrating with Turkish girls in istanbul and drop the bottle of alchohol from balconey to ground . in the left the same mafiya leader shooting to air with his pistol and saying i am the sultan of istanbul !

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syrian mafiya fighting over territories with ak47 in Antalya one of the touristic area of turkey ! basically they are playing real life pubg

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kurdish mafiya demanding protection money from turkish bussinesses in fethiye mersin all all the Mediterranean and aegean sea areas these mafia were destoryed under the rahmetli general eşref bitlis doctrine with help of JITEM , turkish mafiya, turkish police , Gendarmery. this including Pervin Buldan 's husband whom were drug smuggler

@Zafer to say this you need to be yüzsüz olman lazim
 
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To put things into perspective

  • Turkish nationalist forces defeated 7 nations against all odds
  • In the early republic era multiple rebellions were decisively squashed
  • Plane factories were established
  • Hatay was regained without a drop of blood
  • In 1974 half of Cyprus captured and remains as the TRNC to this day
  • The defence industry was restarted and became more organized in the 80s
  • By the 90s, Türkiye was building Kobra APCs, MLRS, ballistic missiles and numerous other weapon systems, steadily moving towards more indigenous parts and designs
  • Türkiye was not only conducting highly effective cross border ops against PKK, but was also threatened both Greece and Syria to all out war, both counties backed the fuck out of it.
  • The castle plan was enacted, to destroy PKK by force, making them completely flee Turkish borders in the late 90s

When Erdoğan came to power
  • The hood incident happened
  • FETÖ forces fully infiltrated the military
  • PKK came back into Turkish territory
  • Türkiye followed US plans for Syria, but instead of building a proper Turkmen force, backed a bunch of rag tag groups who ended up being incompetent, allowing US-backed PKK, rebranded as SDF to take over most of Syria. They now hold power in the same government that we back.
  • Meanwhile in Iraq, there's an entire autonomous Kurdish region that suppresses Turkmens, yet nothing is done to counter this.
  • Iran has provided 358 loitering anti aircrat missiles, along with other drones/loitering munitions to PKK. Nothing is being done to counter them.
  • Cyprus actively arming up
  • There's 5 million documented, and probably 10+ million overall refugees in Türkiye, and there's thousands more coming in every week
  • FETÖ and PKK supporters are in the government

It's a shitshow. The only and only thing going good is the defence industry. And the only reason why it's going good is because the foundations were laid decades ago and held strong by the institutions that back it. Erdoğan simply inherited it.

You can tell me about geopolitics this and Hakan Fidan that, it's all a bunch of bs. We're punching way below our weight for a country of 80+ million, with a huge military in the most strategic land in the world. We can't use any of this to our advantage because ultimately votes matter more than anything else to a man sitting in a 1000 room palace with everything to lose. He'll sell out the southeast, make Türkiye defacto partitioned like Iraq is, gain millions of votes from Kurds and also keep your vote because you believe that it is part of some big strategic plan. Please snap back to reality. Erdogan hasn't made Türkiye stronger.


I have read this kind things 20 years and looks like 20 years later we will read it :LOL: . What is exactly the question? I mean what i read is some emontional guy crying, you are comparing past with now and looks like you dare to say in the 90 and 80's was better? And then you come with 1000 room palace.

Come with rational question and not some coffeehous politics.
 
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