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For all the tech and mil advancements, turkiye right now is suffering with political terrorism at every level as our "brotherly kurds" and islamists infiltrate every element of society. What use is a 5th gen jet if you end up in the situation where you have to bomb your own cities to root out these parasites and traitors?
 

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But Türkiye is already strong and only gets stronger, so your point is already debunked. Listen closely, the day that Türkiye will have his OWN 5th Gen Jet in numbers will be a very bad day for the people/countries that have their eyes on Türkiye.

And who are those countries? Which country wants to attack you? None of your neighbors has the military strength to fight you, so nobody will attack you regadless of having a 5th Gen Jet or not.
 

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And who are those countries? Which country wants to attack you? None of your neighbors has the military strength to fight you, so nobody will attack you regadless of having a 5th Gen Jet or not.


You're probably in this forum for at least a year. So you must have seen that these countries don't openly threaten Türkiye but covertly.
 
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At some point, Turkiye will outgrow Israel, and the US will be too busy to commit vital assets to defend Israel. Until then, it would have been best if we had kept a low profile, but it seems this will be difficult going forward.
 

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I never implied you are comparable to Iran, but this doesn’t mean that a war with Israel would not be very bad for your country. Israel has the baking of the US, so fighting them is not something to be desired.



This happens all the time in geopolitics, but this doesn’t mean you have to reach a point where conflict is on the table. I mean, your interests clashed with the US many times in Syria, yet you are allied with them through NATO.

As far as the Middle East go, the only solution to be a strong country is to be on the same side with Israel. Because if Israel sees you as a threat, it will work against you to destroy you. The Gulf countries seems to have realized this reality, and they are clearly willing to normalize relations with Israel, in order to be safe.

I don’t think there is any bright future as an adversary of Israel.
Well they work with Israel as their short-term interests align and they don't care for long-term interests. They are afraid of their own populations and hence seek outside support. Israeli officials and analysts have been saying for the past 20 years that 'we must attack Iran'. But, since 7th of October as the Netanyahu admin has used Erdogan's posturing to consolidate his own base by disparaging our country and vilifying us, many pieces by diplomats and military analysts have been published in major Israeli papers criticizing this move and emphasizing that Turkey is not Iran and it's not strategically prudent to make an enemy of Turkey this publicly as Israel will not be able to engage Turkey as it has Iran. Therefore U.S. backing or not, the side which will back off from a conflict first is Israel and they know this.

As for the belief that "to be a strong country is to be on the same side with Israel", there are two issues with this view; first one is Saudi Arabia and UAE are anything but strong. Strength is not about gdp per capita numbers or short-term financial prospects. A quote has been widely attributed to Rashid bin Saeed Al Maktoum which says: "My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I drive a Mercedes, my son drives a Land Rover, his son will drive a Land Rover, but his son will ride a camel".

Also Israel is a maximalist nation dominated by millenarian thinking and radicalizing itself at a rapid pace (for the history of the devlopment of Israeli zeitgeist, you can read about Sparta and how that society evolved); it's a collision course we cannot avoid tbh. It can be diverted and managed with diplomatic prowess however and in this I agree that our admin's emotional populistc antagonizing repsonse should be replaced with containment, diplomatic influence, deception and short-term cooperations in cases where it can hurt us if we don't (like for reasons of F-35 procurement). Unfortunately our current admin has shown its cards and cannot adopt this approach anymore, and some of their base will also not tolerate it so it's mainly an electoral calculation for them; classic case of populism in democracies leading to short-term political gain overriding long-term national interest.
 

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The Israeli Defense Committee authorized the use of deep bunker buster tactical nukes against Iranian underground facilities. According to simulations, due to deep underground detonation and low yield of the warhead, radiation exposure above the ground will be negligible. I expect Israel to go for this route if Iran manages to inflict considerable damage to Israel's air capability.
 

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Rn, expect more Israeli attacks than ever before

Israel completely compromised Iran's Air Defence systems and managed to deal a heavy blow to lots of its missile launchers. If you couple that with the fact that Iran is quite large with lots of important sites spread out across the land to protect, it is no-brainer that Israeli jets are flying over Iranian airspace for more than 2.5 hours

What a joke Iran has become.

However, the recent events clearly dictated that Israel will never allow any nation in the middle east to possess nuclear weapons no matter what as it means the potential end for the jewish state. Therefore, if Iran falls, then Turkey is next on the list 100%. Erdogan reiterated his desire for nuclear weapons several times before and looking at what happened to Iran, I hope Turkey prepares itself for the day when it gets to fight Israel militarily, since at the end of the day, the greatest enemies for the Israelis in the region arent the Iranians or the Arabs but the Turks

I still remember Natenyahu stating 3 days ago that he will do the impossible to prevent the rise of a new Ottoman empire; i-e, hinting that he will never allow Turkey to grow above a certain limit which further legitimise the idea that Turkey is the next on the list after Iran
This is the whole idea which many stupid people like nasser, saddam, qaddafi, the shah failed to understand.
 

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Iran intimitading to hit Dimon nuclear reactor.
 

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These influences are of no value to China. China just hopes to gradually improve itself. When it becomes strong enough, everything around it will automatically attach to it.
China and Iran had some important (Gas) agreements.
 
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