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[mTT]

Can't they use another UAV/USV to relay the signals and expand its operational radius further?

Since another UAV/USV would be closer to the enemy, wouldn't it become a target for the enemy?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Can't they use another UAV/USV to relay the signals and expand its operational radius further?

That is a possibility. But if memory serves TB3 should have satellite communication capability. So as long as it can communicate with our satellites it can go 1000km and more (given max operational range is 1000nautical miles). But it has to be remembered that TB3 is not for force projection and attack only. It is there to provide defence for TCG Anadolu too. So by staying close by it will be performing that duty.

 

[hugh]

This bird has a “stated” maximum payload capacity of 280kg. The day we can fit an Orka torpedo (220kg) under it’s belly or a CAKIR AShM (275kg without booster) , will be the day when this UCAV is going to be a monster advantage for the TCG Anadolu. Especially if it can can be fitted and take off quickly from get go.
Technically it should have a LOS communication distance of 300km. That would give a very large operational radius when you include the missile’s and torpedoe’s effective range as well.

it should have more capacity once it's equipped with PD222

"The Baykar team is very satisfied with the PD-170 engine developed by TEI. The PD-222 engine will also be installed on the Bayraktar TB3 very soon."

This post is 8 months old but we heard no integration news as of yet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850457209437557138

 

[Zafer]

Please read below article. Especially this paragraph:

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How to determine the sea state?​

The simplest way is through visual observation by experienced seafarers.

I am an experienced seafarer, I spent four and a half years in the Atlantic, the Pacific, the Baltic, the Mediterranean. I sailed as far as to Hawaii, Alaska, Bermuda, Azores, Panama Canal, North sea, practically most of NATO regions. One and a half years as a radio officer receiving weather reports for the captain. So yes I can judge sea state by looking at a video.

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1940043051042242688

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

Defense Industry President Haluk Görgün:

▪The ISU Project will accelerate. We will gain strategic power with this project. They will be planes that can go farther and conduct air-to-air warfare.

▪It is extra important to have air-to-air missiles to be able to use them as air-to-air planes. We have started to develop domestic ammunition. We will continue to develop and produce.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1940670975332261909

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1941043496493945077

 

[Sanchez]

It looks like the last one hit the dirt/earth/berm (don't know how it is called), not the target. But finally they started those tests, it needs only more fine tuning.

yup, the second one is a miss. Still good test.

 

[Zafer]

yup, the second one is a miss. Still good test.

This can't be called a miss

 

[Sanchez]

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This can't be called a miss

That's the first one.

This is the second one that missed, came in too low, hit the dirt. May do a mission kill with shrapnel if the target was a 5 meter tall radar, but will have no effect on the target if it's armored by any level except for shockwave.

 

[Zafer]

That's the first one.

This is the second one that missed, came in too low, hit the dirt. May do a mission kill with shrapnel if the target was a 5 meter tall radar, but will have no effect on the target if it's armored by any level except for shockwave.

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Yes it hit the dirt but that dirt is a pile of dirt with like a meter of height, if it weren't there the missile could hit the white.

 

[Quasar]

Orka, CAKIR or a bit modified İHA 230 would be a nice addition to TB3 and therefore to ANADOLU. Ok not realy related but seems that succes rate of a torpedo is still far greater than a ASM.

Anyway, depending on the composition, A naval task force including ANADOLU/TB3 may have inherit limitations, which can or can not be remedied by inovative armament solutions for TB3 depending on scenario & enemy

 

[Sanchez]

if it weren't there the missile could hit the white

I'd be 2 meter tall if I was 30cms taller Miss is a miss, it's okay that's what testing is for.

 

[Quasar]

just curious what is the success rate and CEP of a contemporary cruise missile???

 

[Sanchez]

just curious what is the success rate and CEP of a contemporary cruise missile???

For a modern western missile like Taurus, SOM, JSM etc it's easily <1m, that's what most aims for in adequate conditions.

 

[Yasar_TR]

just curious what is the success rate and CEP of a contemporary cruise missile???

Tomahawk‘s is less than 10m. But if fitted with IIR seeker, it is 1-2 metres.
JSM Kongsberg ‘s is 1m
SOM is similar to JSM.
Atmaca proved to be less than 3m.
heck! Even Bora has hit it’s target within a metre.

At the end of the day they need to be extra precise. (Remember over a decade ago SOM going through the front windscreen of a bus!) Roketsan is working on higher degree of precision more than range.

If a missile is of cruising type and has a seeker head that follows contours of the terrain, at terminal phase it should perform manoeuvres to make it difficult for anti missile systems. Quite often it may have to go high and come down at perpendicular to hit the target to evade anti missile CIWS. (Both SOM and Atmaca can do those moves)

 

[Sanchez]

Tomahawk‘s is less than 10m. But if fitted with IIR seeker, it is 1-2 metres.

I think Baykar's chasing for a closed loop image recognition system supported by AI for Kemankeş and the future that will not be affected by enemy EW and jamming. That is a very long road and will probably take years to perfect, and even then it won't be great and will probably result in higher collateral damage, but; that's the future.

 

[Zafer]

I'd be 2 meter tall if I was 30cms taller Miss is a miss, it's okay that's what testing is for.

I care for the truth and not how things look on the surface.

 

[boredaf]

Yes it hit the dirt but that dirt is a pile of dirt with like a meter of height, if it weren't there the missile could hit the white.

Lmao, from the angle it was coming at, it is quite literally impossible for it to hit the target. It's a test, you don't have to get your knickers in a bunch to defend it .

 

[boredaf]

Orka, CAKIR or a bit modified İHA 230 would be a nice addition to TB3 and therefore to ANADOLU

None of those things can be carried by TB3 under its wings. Çakır and UAV-230 weigh almost as much as the entire payload capacity of TB3. And I don't think Orka is any lighter than 200 kg as well.