Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[flogger]

All the subsystems(16 strike length cells, MKE 76mm gun, Gökdeniz CIWS, radars etc) are already contracted; not clear if includes "perishables" like missiles and torpedoes, munitions etc or not; which is the same for any deal; totally dependent.

Roger and understood brother thx..

 

[Aassdimenso]

Which was and still is a surprise to me; as no one is selling a frigate for 500m apiece with this kind of loadout; especially one that is already built.

I guess the problem for Indonesian military enthusiasts is that the Istif-class has pretty much the same price tag as our PPA Light+ deal, which features much more advanced radar and a larger hull. But to be fair, this is what our government wanted. I can also understand why the Turkish government decided to let them go, given the significant profit they stand to make from this deal.

 

[Umigami]

Oh boy...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2015809168658120767

 

[Anmdt]

All the subsystems(16 strike length cells, MKE 76mm gun, Gökdeniz CIWS, radars, EW etc) are already contracted; not clear if includes "perishables" like missiles and torpedoes, munitions etc or not; which is the same for any deal; totally dependent.

Imo missiles are excluded, specifically for MIDLAS since there is no planning, or roadmap on the otherside, as which to fire from MIDLAS.

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2016081289938399269

 

[chibiyabi]

All the subsystems(16 strike length cells, MKE 76mm gun, Gökdeniz CIWS, radars, EW etc) are already contracted; not clear if includes "perishables" like missiles and torpedoes, munitions etc or not; which is the same for any deal; totally dependent.

so full system, but unclear info regarding amo, which if we calculate not far from sigma 105 with "kopongan/empty" configuration reaching 220 US mio per hull.

 

[kanalkanan]

so full system, but unclear info regarding amo, which if we calculate not far from sigma 105 with "kopongan/empty" configuration reaching 220 US mio per hull.

For your information, Turkey itself has never fully operated midlas on high intensity situation in its navy. They only conducted midlas trials in 2024 and 2025 with successfully status

Therefore, some public's doubts about cms Advent and Midlas are understandable for our FMP and this newly acquisition

 

[chibiyabi]

For your information, Turkey itself has never fully operated midlas on high intensity situation in its navy. They only conducted midlas trials in 2024 and 2025 with successfully status

Therefore, some public's doubts about cms Advent and Midlas are understandable for our FMP and this newly acquisition

as per first customer, indo had traumatic memory regarding NAVY procurement from SOKOR, mindef must be calculated well before doing same thing to Turks products.. but once agains, geo politics take bigger part regarding acquititions weaponary from Turks. hope the Turks not so stubborn like others suplier when came a problem.

 

[kanalkanan]

as per first customer, indo had traumatic memory regarding NAVY procurement from SOKOR, mindef must be calculated well before doing same thing to Turks products.. but once agains, geo politics take bigger part regarding acquititions weaponary from Turks. hope the Turks not so stubborn like others suplier when came a problem.

Yap, I agree geopolitics has had a major influence on arms purchases lately.
But rather than strengthening our current fleet, don't you think this will lead to low interoperability of our navy?

let count how many system and subsystems are used by most of our fleet, and how big impact for our readiness

 

[chibiyabi]

Yap, I agree geopolitics has had a major influence on arms purchases lately.
But rather than strengthening our current fleet, don't you think this will lead to low interoperability of our navy?

let count how many system and subsystems are used by most of our fleet, and how big impact for our readiness

thats why, 08 choose italy, french n turks as a new suplier, those 3 knew for their "flexibility", and all 3 are NATO member. don't forget, indo mindef choose greek consultant for interoperability things.