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It doesn't have EOTS or IRST. Are the first ones going to be empty or are they planing to integrate at least one of them after initial verification flights? I would certainly hope for the the latter
Air force will run hundreds of flights for every single thing. This is another world's first. There are no UCAVs like this in service in anywhere in the world. Maybe Russians' S-70, which didn't fare great in Ukraine.
 

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Kızılelma S1 looks sleeker.
Ailerons are two piece instead of three.
Climbs like a champ at 60° angle, probably some weight reductions have been made.
 
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TUSAŞ CEO expects the Turkish Air Force to order 50 Anka 3s
Yes he says 50+ Anka-3 order expected. He adds that the engine supply from Ukraine is still possible in spite of the war. He also says that if needed, they would be in a position to use the TEI engine. I am guessing that the TEI engine still not matured yet but can propel this plane.
However, if what Dr Aksit has said is true and that the current TF6000 can provide more thrust than the Ukranian engine, then it should be used. It is an engine made to be stealthy. Has better overall characteristics. It is not going to fly a “manned” plane after all.
 

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Looking at recent statements, i think the only reason to get twin-engine versions of KE and ANKA-3 will be because of MUGEM.
 

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When will we see our platforms with RAM dye.
RAM paint is probably the last major alteration after everything else is implemented, there seems to be several more milestones before we get there. There is a Moore's law in project management; "90% of the job takes 90% of the time and the remaining 10% takes another 90% of time", totalling 180% of the planned time. This maybe an old law that does not apply every time but I know that developers want to take more time to make more and more alterations to their product before they hit serial production. I made a simple injection molded plastic tool myself and I made 20 prototypes of it before I was happy about it. In the case of Kızılelma looking at the pace of development so far, I would say a good 3 months is required before the champion dons a new robe.
 

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When will we see our platforms with RAM dye.
RAM coating is not something that’s strictly mandatory; it’s more of a solution applied to specific areas where it’s actually needed, and it comes with maintenance and sustainment challenges. The main contributors to stealth are the aircraft’s geometry, surface alignment, and overall design.


Modern composite airframes reduce radar reflections significantly compared to metallic structures, which lowers the need for RAM, but composites are not a one-to-one replacement for RAM. RAM absorbs radar energy, while composites mainly help by reducing reflections.


That’s why on a platform like Kızılelma, which follows a balanced stealth–cost–operational approach, it doesn’t make much sense to apply RAM across the entire airframe. It will most likely be used selectively on critical areas such as the nose, air intakes, and leading edges.
 

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RAM coating is not something that’s strictly mandatory; it’s more of a solution applied to specific areas where it’s actually needed, and it comes with maintenance and sustainment challenges. The main contributors to stealth are the aircraft’s geometry, surface alignment, and overall design.


Modern composite airframes reduce radar reflections significantly compared to metallic structures, which lowers the need for RAM, but composites are not a one-to-one replacement for RAM. RAM absorbs radar energy, while composites mainly help by reducing reflections.


That’s why on a platform like Kızılelma, which follows a balanced stealth–cost–operational approach, it doesn’t make much sense to apply RAM across the entire airframe. It will most likely be used selectively on critical areas such as the nose, air intakes, and leading edges.
Properly effective VLO requires electrical continuity of the material. Selective application of RAM will only have modest results.
 

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