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Another Akıncı fighter has gone missing in Sudan.
Despite all Akıncı loses, these UAVs have inflicted sufficient damage during SEAD operations of mixed type of targets. And all being done without ESM / ECM pods so far, or maybe we have deployed some to improve the "library".

Not too far from today Turkish companies will be offering the richest ESM / SIGINT library ever :).
 

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Despite all Akıncı loses, these UAVs have inflicted sufficient damage during SEAD operations of mixed type of targets. And all being done without ESM / ECM pods so far, or maybe we have deployed some to improve the "library".

Not too far from today Turkish companies will be offering the richest ESM / SIGINT library ever :).
Are they still using MAM-L with Akıncı? Because if they are, Baykar may have unlocked a real life money cheat.
 

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It is Turkish drones that helped sudan retrieve khartoum back and change the fate of war drastically. Losing 1 2 akıncı is just fine and understandable.
 

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KE reached Mach 0.8 at 35k feet

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These numbers do not really mean much. A plane needs more and more power to realize its peak potential. Kızılelma needs the TF10000 engine for its mainstay performance levels. Even that seems to be going to be a lackluster performance barely reaching mach 1. Kızılelma can reach peak performance with a custom engine or a major engine upgrade to an evailable larger engine. Speeds also must be considered with full loadout to be informative.

Is Mach 1 lackluster, that is sucbjective, you probably rarely need that speed.
 
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The most important are not the engines or speed or whatever. KE has to have a titanium monoblock structure to overcome those manoeuvres and G shocks. Otherwise, it can tear apart like a piece of glass.
 

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The most important are not the engines or speed or whatever. KE has to have a titanium monoblock structure to overcome those manoeuvres and G shocks. Otherwise, it can tear apart like a piece of glass.
Comparing with Kaan with with 34750 kg MTOW and 1.8 Mach speed Kızılelma only has 8500 kg MTOW and probably under 1.3 Mach speed even in its fully matured incarnation. This performance would be edaquate for its role and will pobably enable it to do away with expensive materials and keep its cost down.
 

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It doesn't have EOTS or IRST. Are the first ones going to be empty or are they planing to integrate at least one of them after initial verification flights? I would certainly hope for the the latter

Will probably be integrated later. This is early stage testing of flight functions.
 

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It doesn't have EOTS or IRST. Are the first ones going to be empty or are they planing to integrate at least one of them after initial verification flights? I would certainly hope for the the latter
Air force will run hundreds of flights for every single thing. This is another world's first. There are no UCAVs like this in service in anywhere in the world. Maybe Russians' S-70, which didn't fare great in Ukraine.
 

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Kızılelma S1 looks sleeker.
Ailerons are two piece instead of three.
Climbs like a champ at 60° angle, probably some weight reductions have been made.
 
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We haven't seen the IWB weapons launch yet, I wonder if we will see it in season 3.
 

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TUSAŞ CEO expects the Turkish Air Force to order 50 Anka 3s
Yes he says 50+ Anka-3 order expected. He adds that the engine supply from Ukraine is still possible in spite of the war. He also says that if needed, they would be in a position to use the TEI engine. I am guessing that the TEI engine still not matured yet but can propel this plane.
However, if what Dr Aksit has said is true and that the current TF6000 can provide more thrust than the Ukranian engine, then it should be used. It is an engine made to be stealthy. Has better overall characteristics. It is not going to fly a “manned” plane after all.
 

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