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[Fuzuli NL]

Hidrojen yakıtlı tren için Türkiye ve İngiltere arasında imzalar atıldı

Ulaştırma ve Altyapı Bakanı Abdulkadir Uraloğlu, İngiltere ile işbirliği protokolü imzalanan Hidrojen Yakıtlı Tren Geliştirme Projesi kapsamında, Türkiye Raylı Sistem Araçları Sanayi AŞ'nin (TÜRASAŞ), projede merkez rol üstleneceğini bildirdi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

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Türkiye and the UK have signed an agreement for hydrogen-fueled trains.​

Minister of Transport and Infrastructure Abdulkadir Uraloğlu announced that within the scope of the Hydrogen Fuelled Train Development Project, for which a cooperation protocol was signed with the United Kingdom, Turkey Rail Systems Vehicles Industry Inc. (TÜRASAŞ) will play a central role in the project.​

January 22, 2026 - Updated: January 22, 2026

Ankara​

In a written statement, Uraloğlu stated that a cooperation protocol was signed between the UK and TÜRASAŞ at the Ministry of Transport and Infrastructure within the framework of the Hydrogen Fuelled Train Development Project.
Uraloğlu stated that the agreement was signed by TÜRASAŞ General Manager Selim Koçbay and the British Ambassador to Ankara, Jill Morris, and emphasized that this collaboration is an important step not only for the railway sector but also in terms of environmentally friendly and sustainable transportation goals.

Uraloğlu noted that hydrogen fuel cell trains not only reduce carbon emissions but also lower noise pollution, providing a more comfortable and environmentally friendly travel option. Referring to the collaboration, which will involve contributions from prestigious academic institutions and expert organizations on the UK side, Uraloğlu stated, "On the Turkish side, TÜRASAŞ will play a central role in the project as a prototype production center. A process of knowledge accumulation and technical support in critical technical areas will be carried out in collaboration with relevant stakeholders in fuel cell and system integration. We plan to produce hydrogen-fueled locomotives at our TÜRASAŞ Eskişehir Regional Directorate. This project is R&D in nature, and all rights will belong to TÜRASAŞ."

"Our goal is to build a sustainable capacity in hydrogen technology."​

Underlining that this collaboration will strengthen Türkiye's institutional capacity in the field of hydrogen-powered railway vehicles, Uraloğlu stated, "Within the framework of the protocol, information and technical support will be provided in technical areas such as design, system architecture, power electronics, energy management, and safety. We will further advance our domestic engineering capabilities thanks to this project."
Uraloğlu pointed out that the project is of great importance not only in terms of production but also in terms of technology transfer and knowledge sharing, and noted the following:
"Our goal is to create a sustainable capacity in hydrogen technology and to develop domestic solutions that can compete at international standards. With our efforts in this direction, we will make TÜRASAŞ a regional center in this field. The project will also play a decisive role in the transition to environmentally friendly transportation systems in the long term. We see this investment, which will strengthen green transportation, as an important part of our 'Türkiye Century' vision."

 

[Huelague]

Some answers about Industry and production capabilities.

Türkiye, savunma sanayiinde Avrupa'nın en iyi tedarik zincirine sahip #shorts #sahne

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[Strong AI]

Power in tactical communication: T-Link

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2014649572841177175

 

[Ripley]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037599007594201578

“The European Parliament's committee on defence and security voted Tuesday to exclude Turkey from participating in defence-related elements of the EU's next major research and innovation program, Horizon Europe 2028-2034.

The amendment was put forward by Cypriot MEP Costas Mavrides and passed by a wide margin, with 29 votes in favour, five against, and one abstention. The vote marks a significant step toward formally locking Turkey out of EU defence cooperation.

Horizon Europe is the EU's largest research and innovation funding framework, and its upcoming 2028-2034 phase is notable because it will, for the first time, include defence as an eligible priority. Mavrides argued that participation in those sensitive defence areas must be limited to countries aligned with EU values, international law, and good-neighbourly relations.

Mavrides was direct about the target of his amendment, saying explicitly that the revised text excludes Turkey and that countries considered hostile to the EU or its member states have no place in a future European defence framework. He framed it as a matter of principle: states that act against EU interests simply cannot be allowed inside a European defence union.

Turkey is a NATO ally but has been at odds with EU members for years over Cyprus, Aegean disputes, drilling activities in the Eastern Mediterranean, and its failure to meet conditions for EU accession. The committee vote now moves the proposal forward in the broader legislative process for the next Horizon Europe framework.”

EU is lucky to have Cyprus and Greece that could easily replace Turkey‘s decades long military tech know-how, R&D, expertise and not to mention having a combined overwhelming production capacity that would’ve overtake Turkey’s lagging industrial efforts.

Still will have to go through EU Parliament I believe but I’m happy for EU for they are on the right track to modify its security and defense structure while facing a speedily faltering NATO organization.

 

[Zafer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037599007594201578

“The European Parliament's committee on defence and security voted Tuesday to exclude Turkey from participating in defence-related elements of the EU's next major research and innovation program, Horizon Europe 2028-2034.

The amendment was put forward by Cypriot MEP Costas Mavrides and passed by a wide margin, with 29 votes in favour, five against, and one abstention. The vote marks a significant step toward formally locking Turkey out of EU defence cooperation.

Horizon Europe is the EU's largest research and innovation funding framework, and its upcoming 2028-2034 phase is notable because it will, for the first time, include defence as an eligible priority. Mavrides argued that participation in those sensitive defence areas must be limited to countries aligned with EU values, international law, and good-neighbourly relations.

Mavrides was direct about the target of his amendment, saying explicitly that the revised text excludes Turkey and that countries considered hostile to the EU or its member states have no place in a future European defence framework. He framed it as a matter of principle: states that act against EU interests simply cannot be allowed inside a European defence union.

Turkey is a NATO ally but has been at odds with EU members for years over Cyprus, Aegean disputes, drilling activities in the Eastern Mediterranean, and its failure to meet conditions for EU accession. The committee vote now moves the proposal forward in the broader legislative process for the next Horizon Europe framework.”

EU is lucky to have Cyprus and Greece that could easily replace Turkey‘s decades long military tech know-how, R&D, expertise and not to mention having a combined overwhelming production capacity that would’ve overtake Turkey’s lagging industrial efforts.

Still will have to go through EU Parliament I believe but I’m happy for EU for they are on the right track to modify its security and defense structure while facing a speedily faltering NATO organization.

They will buy Greek Cypriot weapons instead
They buy Turkish when they have no options.

 

[Ripley]

They will buy Greek Cypriot weapons instead
They buy Turkish when they have no options.

I’d easily say hey, it’s politics and merrily go on my way but when I see such a blunder can’t help but see that when push comes to shove, EU is a joke that had been proven over decades.
They‘re still unaware of the things they’re to face without the USA security umbrella.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Let them satisfy themselves with these so called victories.
In the meantime…..

NATO is trying to form a multinational headquarters in Turkiye with a Turkish Commander in charge. (however it’s help to Turkiye is a subject open to discussions)

At the sametime EU’s richest and most populist country visits Turkish arms manufacturers with a view to manufacture and form JVs.

MSB 'Türkiye'de çokuluslu NATO karargâhı' kurulacağını duyurdu - BBC News Türkçe

Milli Savunma Bakanlığı, Türkiye'de NATO için kolordu seviyesinde yeni bir çokuluslu karargâh kurulacağını duyurdu. Çalışmaların 2023'te başladığını belirten bakanlık, karargâhın "caydırıcılık ve savunma faaliyetlerini destekleyeceğini" söyledi. Bakanlık, bu hamlenin Ortadoğu'daki ABD-İsrail ile...

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037121592073798018

They will keep coming one by one to our doorstep. Wait and see. UK was the cleverest of them all. They saw our importance in 2016 and signed a lot of important defence and trade agreements with us. (Shame we did not make use of them as well as we should).

 

[Ahlatshah]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037599007594201578

“The European Parliament's committee on defence and security voted Tuesday to exclude Turkey from participating in defence-related elements of the EU's next major research and innovation program, Horizon Europe 2028-2034.

The amendment was put forward by Cypriot MEP Costas Mavrides and passed by a wide margin, with 29 votes in favour, five against, and one abstention. The vote marks a significant step toward formally locking Turkey out of EU defence cooperation.

Horizon Europe is the EU's largest research and innovation funding framework, and its upcoming 2028-2034 phase is notable because it will, for the first time, include defence as an eligible priority. Mavrides argued that participation in those sensitive defence areas must be limited to countries aligned with EU values, international law, and good-neighbourly relations.

Mavrides was direct about the target of his amendment, saying explicitly that the revised text excludes Turkey and that countries considered hostile to the EU or its member states have no place in a future European defence framework. He framed it as a matter of principle: states that act against EU interests simply cannot be allowed inside a European defence union.

Turkey is a NATO ally but has been at odds with EU members for years over Cyprus, Aegean disputes, drilling activities in the Eastern Mediterranean, and its failure to meet conditions for EU accession. The committee vote now moves the proposal forward in the broader legislative process for the next Horizon Europe framework.”

EU is lucky to have Cyprus and Greece that could easily replace Turkey‘s decades long military tech know-how, R&D, expertise and not to mention having a combined overwhelming production capacity that would’ve overtake Turkey’s lagging industrial efforts.

Still will have to go through EU Parliament I believe but I’m happy for EU for they are on the right track to modify its security and defense structure while facing a speedily faltering NATO organization.

I believe it is important to note, 29 favors and 5-6 against voting are not coming from the EU countries, but MEPs (Member of the European Parliament) who are in the commitee. The opinion from commitee go through EU Parliament as you wrote, then Council of European Union makes the final decision.

When it comes to Turkiye, particularly last 15 years or so, commitee opinions are the hardest, it gets softer in the process, Parliament and Council alike. For ex. in 2019 opinion was the full arms embargo but the final decision was the the limit the arms sales instead of full embargo

Still, commitee opinion does not so insignificant, at the same time far from decisive. Pink assed WOKEs and SJWs seem still alive in EU. But at the end of the day conjucture, threat perception of EU and our capabilities will determine the outcome.

For the Greeks, well, they are doing what they have been doing for the last thousand years: Trying to isolate us, if they can not, trying to contain us.

Some things are never change, even after thousand years

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Why on earth are we putting so much effort into helping these people? Let them sort out the war in Ukraine on their own; all this nonsense – like Steadfast 2026, the whole NATO charade, and the drone programme with Italy run by Baykar and Leonardo – is pointless. Turkey should do only the absolute minimum within NATO. Greece has been doing that for more then decades; I haven’t seen a single Fighter jet from Greece on a real NATO combat mission. No ground troops, no combat missions – they’re absolute security freeloaders -> security consumers.

Just let them get a taste of their own medicine and let Greece defend them.

 

[TR_123456]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037599007594201578

“The European Parliament's committee on defence and security voted Tuesday to exclude Turkey from participating in defence-related elements of the EU's next major research and innovation program, Horizon Europe 2028-2034.

The amendment was put forward by Cypriot MEP Costas Mavrides and passed by a wide margin, with 29 votes in favour, five against, and one abstention. The vote marks a significant step toward formally locking Turkey out of EU defence cooperation.

Horizon Europe is the EU's largest research and innovation funding framework, and its upcoming 2028-2034 phase is notable because it will, for the first time, include defence as an eligible priority. Mavrides argued that participation in those sensitive defence areas must be limited to countries aligned with EU values, international law, and good-neighbourly relations.

Mavrides was direct about the target of his amendment, saying explicitly that the revised text excludes Turkey and that countries considered hostile to the EU or its member states have no place in a future European defence framework. He framed it as a matter of principle: states that act against EU interests simply cannot be allowed inside a European defence union.

Turkey is a NATO ally but has been at odds with EU members for years over Cyprus, Aegean disputes, drilling activities in the Eastern Mediterranean, and its failure to meet conditions for EU accession. The committee vote now moves the proposal forward in the broader legislative process for the next Horizon Europe framework.”

EU is lucky to have Cyprus and Greece that could easily replace Turkey‘s decades long military tech know-how, R&D, expertise and not to mention having a combined overwhelming production capacity that would’ve overtake Turkey’s lagging industrial efforts.

Still will have to go through EU Parliament I believe but I’m happy for EU for they are on the right track to modify its security and defense structure while facing a speedily faltering NATO organization.

This is just a giveaway to Cyprus from the EU.
You know,Cyprus ''leads'' the EU for another 3 months i think and then its back to normal again.
Let Greek Cyprus have its moment.

 

[boredaf]

Why on earth are we putting so much effort into helping these people? Let them sort out the war in Ukraine on their own; all this nonsense – like Steadfast 2026, the whole NATO charade, and the drone programme with Italy run by Baykar and Leonardo – is pointless. Turkey should do only the absolute minimum within NATO. Greece has been doing that for decades; I haven’t seen a single Fighter jet from Greece on a real NATO combat mission. No ground troops, no combat missions – they’re absolute security freeloaders -> security consumers.

Just let them get a taste of their own medicine and let Greece defend them.

If it was up to people like you we would be the next North Korea, you really can't see farther away than the end of your own nose.

Those NATO missions and multinational exercises provide us with invaluable experience in different areas and situations, they allow us to work with and against systems we do not own or operate. It allows our soldiers to get some experience with the systems they use under different conditions, instead of sitting on their arses or just going to same spots and doing the same things over and over again. Doing as much as we can helps us more than NATO.

And Baykar-Leonardo joint venture will easing them into European markets and also allowing them to utilize Leonardo sensors for potential customers who might get hang up on "made in EU" stuff. Either through this joint venture or through Piaggio, Baykar have a chance to make a lot of money, especially when you consider how weak the drone sector is in Europe.

Us being integrated into NATO and its systems only helps us, it doesn't hinder us.

 

[Ripley]

They will keep coming one by one to our doorstep. Wait and see. UK was the cleverest of them all. They saw our importance in 2016 and signed a lot of important defence and trade agreements with us. (Shame we did not make use of them as well as we should).

Abi I never doubt that. In some form or another, be it a military organization or be it defense cooperation, joint dev and production, they will knock on that door. But, if worse comes to worst they will visit individually one by one.

I believe it is important to note, 29 favors and 5-6 against voting are not coming from the EU countries, but MEPs (Member of the European Parliament) who are in the commitee. The opinion from commitee go through EU Parliament as you wrote, then Council of European Union makes the final decision.

When it comes to Turkiye, particularly last 15 years or so, commitee opinions are the hardest, it gets softer in the process, Parliament and Council alike. For ex. in 2019 opinion was the full arms embargo but the final decision was the the limit the arms sales instead of full embargo

Still, commitee opinion does not so insignificant, at the same time far from decisive. Pink assed WOKEs and SJWs seem still alive in EU. But at the end of the day conjucture, threat perception of EU and our capabilities will determine the outcome.

For the Greeks, well, they are doing what they have been doing for the last thousand years: Trying to isolate us, if they can not, trying to contain us.

Some things are never change, even after thousand years

Oh, don‘t get me wrong. I don’t mind what Greeks do. In fact, I was expecting that. Like you said, when you’re a Turk, that’s a fact of life.
But the other thing you pointed out is really alarming. You see, they have been used to make decisions and pass laws that are not critical to their very own safety thanks to the US security coverage for 80 years now, they seem like they don‘t know how to handle such critical decisions. Like a lethargic disease set in.

 

[TR_123456]

Why on earth are we putting so much effort into helping these people? Let them sort out the war in Ukraine on their own; all this nonsense – like Steadfast 2026, the whole NATO charade, and the drone programme with Italy run by Baykar and Leonardo – is pointless. Turkey should do only the absolute minimum within NATO. Greece has been doing that for more then decades; I haven’t seen a single Fighter jet from Greece on a real NATO combat mission. No ground troops, no combat missions – they’re absolute security freeloaders -> security consumers.

Just let them get a taste of their own medicine and let Greece defend them.

You need to look at the bigger picture here,its not about Greece or Cyprus.

 

[Ripley]

Why on earth are we putting so much effort into helping these people? Let them sort out the war in Ukraine on their own; all this nonsense – like Steadfast 2026, the whole NATO charade, and the drone programme with Italy run by Baykar and Leonardo – is pointless. Turkey should do only the absolute minimum within NATO. Greece has been doing that for more then decades; I haven’t seen a single Fighter jet from Greece on a real NATO combat mission. No ground troops, no combat missions – they’re absolute security freeloaders -> security consumers.

Just let them get a taste of their own medicine and let Greece defend them.

Bro, we haven’t been helping anyone, tbh. And Turkey, on the contrary, should always do the maximum as we’re always carry the burden of proving our ‘worth’, a fact I personally abhor.
We had to be in NATO. It sheltered us (well, theUS, to be precise). It was good.
We gonna need to be in the next thing whether we like it or not.
Turkey can not afford isolation from a neighboring EU military structure.

 

[TR_123456]

Bro, we haven’t been helping anyone, tbh. And Turkey, on the contrary, should always do the maximum as we’re always carry the burden of proving our ‘worth’, a fact I personally abhor.
We had to be in NATO. It sheltered us (well, theUS, to be precise). It was good.
We gonna need to be in the next thing whether we like it or not.
Turkey can not afford isolation from a neighboring EU military structure.

And what if the US leaves NATO,then what?

 

[boredaf]

And what if the US leaves NATO,then what?

We plop our balls down on the table and ask the Europeans to get in line

 

[Turkic]

And what if the US leaves NATO,then what?

We plop our balls down on the table and ask the Europeans to get in line

Let's just form Turan . No?

 

[CAN_TR]

We have to exploit European desperation ruthlessly for our own interests. Joint projects, investments, upgrading the custom union, visa-free travel, SAFE maybe not today but tomorrow...

 

[Ripley]

And what if the US leaves NATO,then what?

OK, a NATO where the US is the top dog, not only gives a security umbrella, a sense of security but tags you a huge label that reads ‘untouchable‘.
When the top dog vacates the shelter, it won’t be the same. The only title contender for the position I can think of would be France, which i must admit, won’t be fun as they’re eternal Turkish haters. But I’d stay in there.

If, on the other hand, the NATO dissolves itself, well then I’d sniff around and look for a way to join the next pack, preferably as the Alpha or as a contender because seriously Turkey cannot afford any form isolation.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

If it was up to people like you we would be the next North Korea, you really can't see farther away than the end of your own nose.

Those NATO missions and multinational exercises provide us with invaluable experience in different areas and situations, they allow us to work with and against systems we do not own or operate. It allows our soldiers to get some experience with the systems they use under different conditions, instead of sitting on their arses or just going to same spots and doing the same things over and over again. Doing as much as we can helps us more than NATO.

And Baykar-Leonardo joint venture will easing them into European markets and also allowing them to utilize Leonardo sensors for potential customers who might get hang up on "made in EU" stuff. Either through this joint venture or through Piaggio, Baykar have a chance to make a lot of money, especially when you consider how weak the drone sector is in Europe.

Us being integrated into NATO and its systems only helps us, it doesn't hinder us.

What is sold as “cooperation” and “market access” is, in reality, nothing more than a targeted, one-way transfer of technology. Whilst the European side speaks of partnership, what is actually at stake is siphoning off know-how, operational data and development experience from Turkey – things they themselves lack.
The crux of the problem is clear:
Most European NATO states lack genuine combat data and reliable metadata from modern conflicts that is a fact. This is precisely why they seek this cooperation – not out of strength, but because of a structural gap.
In crucial areas such as:

semi-autonomous systems
electronic warfare (EW/ECM)
cyber resilience
smart munitions
Edge and Cloud AI Hard & Software
C4ISR capabilities in real Combat situation

many of these countries are not leading the way, but lagging behind. Exceptions prove the rule – such as systems like the Meteor missile or the Taurus KEPD 350 – but this does not alter the overall picture.
The real shortcoming runs deeper:
These systems are often designed for ideal conditions, not for the reality of modern battlefields. Under constant:

jamming
GPS spoofing
cyberattacks
electronic interference
constant fire

many theoretical assumptions simply fall apart. What works on paper fails under real pressure.
It is therefore no coincidence that only NATO states such as the USA, Turkey, the United Kingdom and France possess truly in-depth operational data – and treat this as a strategic asset that is not to be shared.
Air defence also speaks for itself:
Germany relies on the Patriot missile system, Arrow 3 and, in the future maybe David’s Sling for good reason.
This is an implicit admission that systems such as SAMP/T or IRIS-T SLM may aim to keep pace technologically, but have not been validated to the same extent under real-world threat scenarios – particularly in the case of complex ballistic attacks or constant fire with Cruise Missiles, Kamikaze UAV & Co.
Ultimately, a clear pattern emerges:
Europe frequently develops highly complex systems on paper, but there is a lack of consistent, battle-tested capability under real-world conditions.
Yes, there are exceptions – such as the Eurofighter Typhoon, the Leopard 2 or German submarines. Yet these are islands of strength, not indicative of a consistently resilient system.
The reality is uncomfortable, but clear:
Those who lack their own continuous combat data develop more slowly, iterate less effectively and remain dependent. This is precisely why this ‘cooperation’ arises – not out of balance, but out of necessity.
I would have kept my mouth shut, but after such a European decision... it really couldn’t be any more anti-Turkish.

We have to help countries like that in the event of a NATO alliance crisis – it’s just mad… in past Syria attack us with missiles, only Spain came to our aid with long term PATRIOT Systems; the rest withdrew after a few weeks or months...