Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

[whatintarnation]

Actually i don't give a damn about this issue, either we are recognize Israel or not it is still within our very right as a Sovereign Nation and no one above US except God can dictated and telling us what to do or not. For Israel and US effort to entice us to recognize Israel is still within their rights and choices as they even trying to lure Indonesia with economy development cooperation and other thing it was still within how countries developing their relationship. But this Palestine authority to sent a letter to our very own President and giving lecture about what to do or not, it is clearly breaching Diplomacy Norm and clearly stated Palestine has trying to steer Indonesia foreign policy!!!

It's Hamas, don't think too much about it.

Hamas is not Palestine.

 

[Madokafc]

It's Hamas, don't think too much about it.

Hamas is not Palestine.

Whatever, they don't have right, they even not a Nation to begin with!!?

 

[whatintarnation]

Whatever, they don't have right, they even not a Nation to begin with!!?

They're a political party begging for international attention. It's better for us to just ignore this letter and move on.

 

[trishna_amrta]

Actually this kind of disgusting act from Ismail Haniya, they clearly overstep the boundaries and meddlesome with our very Right as a Sovereign Nation and Country. To write the letter to a Presiden and giving a warning, i just can said Fuck Off!!!

Palestina Ternyata Tahu Isu Normalisasi Indonesia dan Israel, Hamas Ingatkan Jokowi: Musuh Islam

Isu normalisasi Indonesia dan Israel ini kian mencuat dalam beberapa waktu ini. Rupanya Palestina sudah mendengar hal tersebut

www.pikiran-rakyat.com

As much as I embrace and exhilarated on the prospect of opening full diplomatic (and trade) with Israel. I have yet seen in the quoted article anything that could be reliably infer as meddling in Indonesia internal affair let alone meddlesome. What I've read from that article it was merely plead for not carry trough with any kind of establishing diplomatic relation with Israel.

 

[Mejikuhibiu]

Hodie Christus natus est. Hodie salvator apparuit! Hodie in terra cannut angeli, laetantur archangeli - Hodie exsultant justi, dicentes:
Gloria in excelsis Deo! Et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis, Amen. Alleluia!

Christ is born today. The Savior appears today. The angels sing today, the Archangels rejoice! The just rejoice today saying - Glory to God in the highest! And on Earth peace to men of good will! Amen! Alleluia!

Marry Christmast. Joy to you

 

[Mejikuhibiu]

As long Indonesia can have much more role for Palestine is ok to normalise relation with israel..
Lumayan kalo mereka nawafin upgrade f16 pake avionic mereka

 

[whatintarnation]

united nusantara + vietnam + laos + parts of cambodia + north png + solomon islands + andaman and nicobar islands

AND

almost all of africa

what do you guys think?

imagine this in real life

pushing bhinneka tunggal ika to its limits lol

 

[Ravager]

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united nusantara + vietnam + laos + parts of cambodia + north png + solomon islands + andaman and nicobar islands

AND

almost all of africa

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what do you guys think?

imagine this in real life

pushing bhinneka tunggal ika to its limits lol

 

[Mejikuhibiu]

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united nusantara + vietnam + laos + parts of cambodia + north png + solomon islands + andaman and nicobar islands

AND

almost all of africa

View attachment 9420

what do you guys think?

imagine this in real life

pushing bhinneka tunggal ika to its limits lol

Game apaan tu

 

[whatintarnation]

Game apaan tu

hoi4

 

[trishna_amrta]

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united nusantara + vietnam + laos + parts of cambodia + north png + solomon islands + andaman and nicobar islands

AND

almost all of africa

View attachment 9420

what do you guys think?

imagine this in real life

pushing bhinneka tunggal ika to its limits lol

I never like grand strategy game such as Europa Universalis or Heart of Iron series. I had always been a Total War series + historical mod player or more simulator grade wargaming such as Larry Bond's Harpoon, Jane's Fleet Command, or Command: Modern Air Naval Operations

Anyway, such expansion is impossible. Even at the height of Wilwatikta Kingdom (Majapahit Empire) the sphere of influence doesn't reach that far let alone the territorial expansion which was limited to current day East Java & Bali. Expanding that far mean overstretch without having viable means to enforcing Law & Order. Even enforcing tributes would be sketchy at best

The most viable north-west expansion of Nusantara should be limited to Kra Isthmus which will enable firmer grip of the Malacca Strait, while northward epansion should be limited to the Babuyan Islands, while eastward expansion should go all the way to the Solomon Islands.

Anyway I'm currently playing this :

or for those of you whose interested in serious (mil sim) wargaming :

 

[schuimpjes]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1342765840144478208

Russian Wagner (mercenaries that allegedly work for GRU (Russian DIA) ) in Central African Republic.

What a interesting time we live in.

 

[trishna_amrta]

Russian Wagner (mercenaries that allegedly work for GRU (Russian DIA) )

They are a Private Contractor!

 

[trishna_amrta]

Game apaan tu

 

[schuimpjes]

They are a Private Contractor!

Ya, de jure. More you know about Russia more you think they are de facto Russian forces.

Venezuela, Libya, CAR, Sudan, Mozambique, Madagascar, Ukraine. So it's more like when you called by someone "hey watch out, back off", you can say "oops, that was not our forces". Plausible deniability is the things on Russian Hybrid Warfare. Remember how they send their troops to Crimea, they not admitted if that forces without insignia as their forces.

 

[whatintarnation]

Anyway, such expansion is impossible. Even at the height of Wilwatikta Kingdom (Majapahit Empire) the sphere of influence doesn't reach that far let alone the territorial expansion which was limited to current day East Java & Bali. Expanding that far mean overstretch without having viable means to enforcing Law & Order. Even enforcing tributes would be sketchy at best

that's why i have resistance suppression as a national focus lol

once the war ends i'll probably set up puppet states loyal to the indonesian state and make my own faction after i leave the co-prosperity sphere

 

[Madokafc]

Russian Wagner (mercenaries that allegedly work for GRU (Russian DIA) ) in Central African Republic.

What a interesting time we live in.

They sent Merc to get hard cash Dollar US from African countries Warlord and Middle East Seikh or even playing as a nice puddle before the mighty Dragon, never expected the Russian would fall so low nowadays. Maybe the likes of Kutuzov or Suvorov would be crying on their grave or Mausoleum when looking at Russian today.


Today, power of money and industry is everything for any country!!!

 

[Madokafc]

Looking back at the gloomy year of COVID-19​

26th Dec 2020 15:17
By Sri Haryati

Jakarta (ANTARA) - The New Year's Eve celebrations this time will be way different from the previous year, although people will still usher in 2021 with hope and excitement.

As the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes COVID-19, is not expected to disappear any time soon, Indonesia would ban large gatherings during Christmas and New Year's Eve to tackle the growing rate of new COVID-19 infections.

Looking back at the year 2020, it has been a gloomy year replete with sickness, loss, fear, and uncertainty.

First identified in December 2019 in Wuhan, China, the World Health Organization declared COVID-19 as a pandemic in March 2020. As of December 26, over 79.8 million cases have been confirmed, with more than 1.75 million deaths attributed to COVID-19.

In Indonesia, the first case of the disease was confirmed on March 2 after a dance instructor and her mother tested positive for the virus.

President Joko Widodo confirmed the first two cases of COVID-19 in the country in a televised statement. According to the then health minister Terawan Agus Putranto, the patients contracted the virus from an infected Japanese.

Since then, the virus has spread briskly across the archipelago.

Before the first case was detected, in February, the government had its hands full evacuating Indonesians from the epicenter of the disease in Wuhan, China, as well as crew members aboard the Diamond Princess and the World Dream cruise ships.

As many as 243 Indonesians evacuated from Wuhan on February 2 were placed under quarantine in the Natuna Islands, while 256 crew members of the two cruise ships were quarantined in the uninhabited Sebaru Kecil Island in the Seribu Islands off the coast of Jakarta.

The first death of a COVID-19 patient was recorded in March 11, case 25, a British national, who died in Bali's Sanglah hospital, whereas the first death of a health worker was reported on March 13.

President Joko Widodo has urged the public to always wash hands, minimize social interaction, and boost body immunity to prevent transmission of the coronavirus.

However, disparate to several other affected countries, the government did not impose a lockdown but began restricting foreigners from entering Indonesia and installed body temperature scanners at airports.

On April 10, the capital Jakarta imposed large-scale social restrictions (PSBB).

As the infections continued to rise and reached 4,557 cases, on April 13, Jokowi announced the coronavirus pandemic as a national disaster.

The continued increase in COVID-19 infections globally, including in Indonesia, has sparked a scarcity of masks, hand sanitizers, gloves, and also disinfectants, reportedly effective in killing the virus dispersed on materials when infected people cough or sneeze. The virus is transmitted through droplets.

Panic buying had been reported since February, and prices of health care products have skyrocketed.

Supply of personal protective equipment (PPE) in the country was insufficient to protect all medical workers. Several of them have to wear a raincoat to protect themselves from being infected by the virus.

Social and economic impacts

The Ramadhan fasting month started in the last week of April and people began preparing for the Eid al-Fitr celebrations. However, the government decided to ban the homecoming tradition during the Muslim festivity over concerns that it would spark massive transmission of the virus.

In mid-May, Jokowi coined the term “new normal” and has, since then, been used in the country's post-pandemic economic recovery efforts. He also called on people to co-exist with COVID-19.

However, the term “new normal” was viewed as incorrect, and the government had changed its phrasing to “adapting to new habits” to prevent false interpretations or misunderstandings.

The novel coronavirus has closed several doors. In the education sector, schools were closed since March as the education and culture minister imposed online schooling despite the gap in electricity and internet access among regions.

The ministry’s data in April 2020 showed that 18 percent of schools did not have internet access and three percent others did not have electricity access.

In terms of the economy, several companies closed their doors and laid-off their workers. The pandemic has pushed Indonesia and several other countries in the world into recession.

According to the Central Statistics Agency (BPS), Indonesia's economic growth contracted 5.32 percent and 3.49 percent in the second and third quarter of the year respectively.

The government has earmarked Rp695.2 trillion (US$47 billion) for a stimulus package to revive the economy, which is projected to shrink between 0.6 percent and 1.7 percent this year.

The Asian Development Bank (ADB) has revised Indonesia's economic growth in 2020 from minus 1 percent to minus 2.2 percent due to the current uncertainty in the pandemic situation.

Hope of vaccine

World pharmaceutical companies have developed the COVID-19 vaccine in a race against time.

Indonesia's Health Ministry has decided to use the vaccine produced by PT Bio Farma, AstraZeneca, China National Pharmaceutical Group Corporation (Sinopharm), Moderna, Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech, and Sinovac Biotech Ltd.

As many as 1.2 million doses of the vaccine ordered from Sinovac arrived in the country on December 6.

Some 15 million doses of ready-to-use vaccine will arrive later in this month, and some 30 million doses other will arrive in January.

The government has readied measures for massive immunization to stop COVID-19 transmission.

However, despite the availability of the vaccine, it called on people to continue to adhere to health protocols, as the pandemic is not expected to end soon.

The country has seen an increasing trend of daily new cases of COVID-19, from hundreds in March to one thousand in June, three thousand in August, and seven thousand in December.

Making matters worse is the news of several countries having detected mutated coronavirus that can spread faster.

Virologists said that it does not mean this variant is actually more dangerous even if the virus is spreading faster. However, this should have set the alarms. The pandemic has continued to evolve.

Related news: COVID-19: Indonesia records 563,980 recoveries
Related news: Govt carries out various efforts to handle COVID-19 pandemic: Minister

EDITED BY INE

By Sri Haryati
Editor: Suharto

 

[schuimpjes]

They sent Merc to get hard cash Dollar US from African countries Warlord and Middle East Seikh or even playing as a nice puddle before the mighty Dragon, never expected the Russian would fall so low nowadays. Maybe the likes of Kutuzov or Suvorov would be crying on their grave or Mausoleum when looking at Russian today.


Today, power of money and industry is everything for any country!!!

True, they got oil concessions in Syria and Libya and for the case of CAR they got mine. In Madagascar, they got Chromium mine. I can't predict Russian strategy, they are really good at concealing things.

 

[schuimpjes]

Putin's private army is trying to increase Russia's influence in Africa

A mix of guns-for-hire and clever PR is designed to increase Moscow’s influence, outmaneuver its rivals and re-assert itself as a major player in Africa

edition.cnn.com

Quite decent explanations by CNN about this Wagner things.