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ada isu2, gosip, inpoh A1 terkait resafel kabinet? menterinya yg nganu atau gimane gt?
 

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Gerindra digeser dapat mentri pariwisata.
Risma beneran jadi mensos.
Menteri perdangan yg megang mantan dubes jepang dan amerika, mau ninggalin ketergantungan dengan china kah?
 

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Bloomberg reporting about Indonesia again. Now, it's about Indonesia-Israel normalization effort by US. I really amaze by the news they make. Before, came from nowhere they were talking about MoD want F-35 even before any other news agencies reporting that.
 

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Disini sempalan Ikhwanul muslimin itu PKS, yang pendanaannya banyak dibantu dari Timur Tengah

 

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Hope Government can give attention toward PKS and their AD/ ART as they are very reluctant to acknowledge Pancasila as Indonesia Principle. If needed to banned their activity and their involvement in National Politics.
 

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Disini sempalan Ikhwanul muslimin itu PKS, yang pendanaannya banyak dibantu dari Timur Tengah

Muslim Brotherhood have an alliance with Iran too, eventhough they are different strain of Islam the IM is Sunni and Iran is Shia, but they are same in their enmity toward the Saudi and Israel.
 

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What i think actually, we should consider FPI as terrorist organization. They are threatening this multicultural society of Indonesia. Don't let them poisoning our innocent peaceful people to be such extremist.

But, what is gonna happen after we consider them as terrorist organization will make us dizzy too. How much raids that will be done by "aparat keamanan" the police and TNI ?. Isn't that 60s chaos happen again?
 

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What i think actually, we should consider FPI as terrorist organization. They are threatening this multicultural society of Indonesia. Don't let them poisoning our innocent peaceful people to be such extremist.

But, what is gonna happen after we consider them as terrorist organization will make us dizzy too. How much raids that will be done by "aparat keamanan" the police and TNI ?. Isn't that 60s chaos happen again?

There is no actual evidence to consider them as terror organization, the best is to labelled them as armed hired thugs and banning them as organization , unless one can prove their link toward DI/TII or the likes of Jama'ah Islamiyyah or MIT, Imho to prevent their people to stage mass protest and prevent their leadership to take any public position is more than enough.
 

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There is no actual evidence to consider them as terror organization, the best is to labelled them as armed hired thugs and banning them as organization , unless one can prove their link toward DI/TII or the likes of Jama'ah Islamiyyah or MIT, Imho to prevent their people to stage mass protest and prevent their leadership to take any public position is more than enough.
How about their involvement in Jalin Jantho Terrorist Camp in Aceh ?, maybe police have to open that case again and try to find their involvement there. I really put a lot effort to find their dirt if I'm someone in the government.
 

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There are more to it than whats on the surface, I wasnt aware of it until last election campaign. But I have confidence that our law enforcement have them labeled and map. But like Madokafc said there prolly not enough evidence to consider them as terror org or charge them with enough crimes that would put them in bar for long. But prolly our President had enough, thus making the arrest premature imo to warrant longer sentence and covering larger ground.
 

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Waspadalah 😁
 

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What i think actually, we should consider FPI as terrorist organization. They are threatening this multicultural society of Indonesia. Don't let them poisoning our innocent peaceful people to be such extremist.

But, what is gonna happen after we consider them as terrorist organization will make us dizzy too. How much raids that will be done by "aparat keamanan" the police and TNI ?. Isn't that 60s chaos happen again?
Why bother ?? Banning them alone would allredy kill their momentum
 

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Why bother ?? Banning them alone would allredy kill their momentum
Banning them is not killing their ideology. They can change their name and magically they will clean again.

By made them terrorist organization, we can "quarantining" them somewhere (as the communists contained in Pulau Buru) , just as what Mrs. Rahakundini want and me myself want too.

Quite an extreme measure? Yes. But, that is the scenario that's on my head, I don't thing president will want that happen too. That will put a stain in his reputation if he done that.
 

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Banning them is not killing their ideology. They can change their name and magically they will clean again.

By made them terrorist organization, we can "quarantining" them somewhere, just as what Mrs. Rahakundini want and me myself want too.

Quite an extreme measure? Yes. But, that is the scenario that's on my head, I don't thing president will want that happen too. That will put a stain in his reputation if he done that.
Sometime we have to take a backward step for a price of two forward . We threading on thin ice here ... So , some gesture to placate the masses were a necesity in nature
 
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