Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

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The biggest achievement of IRGC in this war so far: they managed to captured US pilot underwear.
 

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This is the leader of the free world.
 

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What dont the French and British have the Americans do for such a rescue?
Similar situation to Afghanistan,no?
Numbers, training and firepower. This is not even in contention. French cannot even do a major airlift without American assistance. Brits don't even try.

Yes, China has zero preparing of such actions, but the right choice is avoid send any man drive aircraft to the air zone has not been controled.
You could say don't start a war over a mountainous country in the first place, but it is what it is.

So they landed 2 x C130 with probably 2 x 2 MH6 little bird helicopters inside (that is how many it can accommodate with rotors folded) and these helicopters and plane were totalled by US forces when IRGC units arrived and started a firefight and no one even were injured. Those MH6s have 2 crew members and 6 Special Forces soldiers each. C130 have a crew of 2-5 as well. That makes 36-40 men landed and their aircrafts were destroyed. But they all survived.
Then they were all extracted to safety with the one rescued pilot. (Do we know how the extraction occurred?)
That only happens in films!!

Going back to @TR_123456 ’s comments; If you have total air superiority and total control of enemy airspace over the area, any well trained special forces of a modern army can attempt such a rescue operation. But the area has to be well cleansed from ground forces too. Otherwise you lose aircrafts and personnel.

You send men in the land forces to attack heavily fortified enemy lines, knowing very well that many will not survive. Same logic has to be applied to airforce too. It is not good logic to put 40 men in to danger to save one. This is war!
Numbers we have are 2 MC-130s, 2-4 MH-6s, 2(+?) HH-60s, and then 3 Dash 8s(or CN-295; which could be unrelated).

Weiss says up to 100 personnel was involved and were extracted. Pilot climbed a hill and trekked few kilometers and was extracted by an MH-6.


Noone is claiming no American was injured. We don't have that information. There are also claims of a mortar emplacement sending accurate shots over the FARP which might have hit one of the aircraft. But we wouldn't expect these men to sit around in aircraft if it was hit or not. From what's available we know that there was a continued firefight that lasted hours and MH-6s and overhead aircraft provided fire support to the running WSO "for hours." No modern army have this kind of firepower and the logistics train to undertake this kind of operation outside its borders in such a short notice. We don't for example.

This is the American way of doing war; they accept going into the fire with the belief that help cavalry will be on the way if things go bad, and it did arrive on this occasion. Same happened in Libya in 2011, in Mogadishu, multiple times in Vietnam, WW2. Even so, Trump admin couldn't accept a POW; so they went all in.
 

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This is the leader of the free world.
he's really funny, i'll give him that :ROFLMAO:

we had the strait open before you started bombing their schools you dumb mf. what exactly did you achieve with this war? you cleared out the old admin and replaced it with young hardliners who's hellbent on making nukes. you also gifted the strait to Iran which they will never cede and use it as a toll-booth to recuperate.

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he will probably produce a dumb excuse to walk away from this threat like he always does. no one takes him seriously anymore.
 

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No modern army have this kind of firepower and the logistics
Bro, no modern army has the US’s firepower and logistics. Full stop.
They are the top dog in terms of these two capabilities.

But it doesn’t mean that other modern armies lack the capability to attempt a similar rescue operation. Would they risk it? That is the question!

In this case US were also lucky.
They had full control of the skies,
They had a sort of a landing strip they could use,
Where the F15 crashed was close to Kuwait for bringing in back up.
 

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This suggests that a C-130 was destroyed with engines running and forward velocity


The photo does not seem to tie in with the US account that US forces destroyed the aircraft deliberately.
Those are carbon fiber propellers, they don't bend on collision, they break. They clearly lost form due to high heat from the fire; which actually supports the claim that they were hit on the ground. We have 2 MC-130s and at least 2 MH-6s sitting right next to each other as wrecks. They were clearly on the ground when they were destroyed. Hit aircraft don't neatly crash on to ground next to each other.
 

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I'm not posting the photo as it's gnarly but there's possible human remains on one of the C-130 wrecks. Increases possibility that aircraft was hit on the ground and that was the reason they had to ditch at least one of them.
 

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What kind of a comment is that?
Many countries can do what the Americans did in Iran.
So,it depends on where you do it,not if you can do it.
Think about it and come back.

you think many countries can pull off sending in special forces 200+ miles into enemy territory, setting up FOB and searching for missing pilot
while 50 to 100 aircraft aircraft are supporting the operation, and aircraft waiting on standby for potential need for support?
 

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you think many countries can pull off sending in special forces 200+ miles into enemy territory, setting up FOB and searching for missing pilot
while 50 to 100 aircraft aircraft are supporting the operation, and aircraft waiting on standby for potential need for support?
Did you read the posts after mine?
You dont need 50 aircraft,remember that Iran has no air assets or real air defence.
It only has ground forces which means when you rule the skies you have the upper hand,the ground forces can be taken out easy.
The US has satelites,every movement on the ground can be seen and imediately eliminated by missiles from ships or air assets.
 

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Did you read the posts after mine?
You dont need 50 aircraft,remember that Iran has no air assets or real air defence.
It only has ground forces which means when you rule the skies you have the upper hand,the ground forces can be taken out easy.
The US has satelites,every movement on the ground can be seen and imediately eliminated by missiles from ships or air assets.

how do you think US prevented Iran from attacking them? you need air support, and for constant air support you need that many aircraft,
fighter jets can't loiter for entire day, they need to be swapped and their stations replaced within few hours

also satellites don't provide reliable constant real time intel, thats why US has highly secretive RQ-180 and is developing SR-72
 

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how do you think US prevented Iran from attacking them? you need air support, and for constant air support you need that many aircraft,
fighter jets can't loiter for entire day, they need to be swapped and their stations replaced within few hours

also satellites don't provide reliable constant real time intel, thats why US has highly secretive RQ-180 and is developing SR-72
Lets just agree to disagree.
 

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you think many countries can pull off sending in special forces 200+ miles into enemy territory, setting up FOB and searching for missing pilot
while 50 to 100 aircraft aircraft are supporting the operation, and aircraft waiting on standby for potential need for support?
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Of course not. No army could have carried out such a complex operation. It's simply unbelievable! I think the Americans were assisted by some otherworldly forces. Look at the photo: the propellers look like Satan's legs...
Something's wrong here🫣
 

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Iran's air defense forces released new footage of the downing of two American MQ-9 Reaper reconnaissance UAVs near Isfahan. As of April 3, Iran's air defense forces have shot down 17 MQ-9 Reaper UAVs. Experts estimate the cost of each MQ-9 Reaper UAV at approximately $30 million.

 

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US Central Command has released footage of the downing of an Iranian Mohajer-6 reconnaissance and attack UAV. The location of the footage was not disclosed. The Mohajer-6 was presumably shot down by US aircraft. The Mohajer-6 UAV has been produced in Iran since 2017 and is designed for reconnaissance, surveillance, and fire support. The Mohajer-6 has been used in combat in Iraq, Syria, and Ethiopia, where it has proven itself.

 

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US Central Command has released footage of the downing of an Iranian Mohajer-6 reconnaissance and attack UAV. The location of the footage was not disclosed. The Mohajer-6 was presumably shot down by US aircraft. The Mohajer-6 UAV has been produced in Iran since 2017 and is designed for reconnaissance, surveillance, and fire support. The Mohajer-6 has been used in combat in Iraq, Syria, and Ethiopia, where it has proven itself.

In Ethiopia, Iraq, and Syria, Iranian Muhajir-6 drones proved completely useless. Due to the ineffectiveness of these Muhajirs, Ethiopia purchased Bayraktar TB2 drones from Turkey immediately after the Karabakh War and used them with great success during the conflict in Tigray in 2021.

Incidentally, Russia, which also used the Muhajirs, was also extremely dissatisfied.

It's worth noting that after the Muhajirs' failure on the Ukrainian front, Putin personally approached Erdogan with a request for Turkish drones, but Bayraktar refused.

If all Iranian weapons are as "effective" as these Muhajirs, then it becomes clear why Iran is experiencing a real catastrophe under aerial bombardment🙄
 
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