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Only thing that is left TB3 with a Fullmar 500 radar, it will not be as the American E2 Hawkeye but we can have several on the ship. We and America will have that capabilities :D .
On a TB3?
You know it has a weight of 500kg?
 

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Only thing that is left TB3 with a Fullmar 500 radar, it will not be as the American E2 Hawkeye but we can have several on the ship. We and America will have that capabilities :D .
Even the smaller Fulmar would be great, considering that TB3 would be taking off from an LHD with a smaller payload capacity. If it can carry Fulmar and Aselsan EW and ES pods, it is a brilliant improvement on the capabilities of any LHD. Although as I said before, I would prefer it to use 2 electronic support pod to more precisely triangulate the location of an enemy radar, if its software is capable of using the millisecond time differential between two pods to improve accuracy.
 

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What about the power needed?
For the power there is always a solution, a mini diesel generator in worst case.

But only Baykar can tell if the TB3 is suitable for Fulmar 500, it has to fit between the wheels, it needs a certain ground clearance etc. etc. There are more factors than power and weight alone.
 

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Yes and tb3 cant provide the power for that only a helicopter
It has been designed for drones mate, Aksungur and Akinci both can use it.

For the power there is always a solution, a mini diesel generator in worst case.

But only Baykar can tell if the TB3 is suitable for Fulmar 500, it has to fit between the wheels, it needs a certain ground clearance etc. etc. There are more factors than power and weight alone.
Fulmar 200 is the one for TB3, not 500. Not only it is far too heavy for TB3, it is also too big as it was made it with Aksungur or Akıncı in mind. Even in the photos in Aselsan brochures have the same split.
 

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Even the smaller Fulmar would be great, considering that TB3 would be taking off from an LHD with a smaller payload capacity. If it can carry Fulmar and Aselsan EW and ES pods, it is a brilliant improvement on the capabilities of any LHD. Although as I said before, I would prefer it to use 2 electronic support pod to more precisely triangulate the location of an enemy radar, if its software is capable of using the millisecond time differential between two pods to improve accuracy.


they can make another smaller fulmar radar for the tb3, a radar is a must for tb3.
 

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Turns out the guessers and spotters were indeed correct.

An M-346FA and an Italian AF T-346 were in Turkey for the "K-Swarm" trials last month.

  • Leonardo M-346 airplanes and Bayraktar KIZILELMA unmanned fighter aircraft have successfully performed a series of joint autonomous formation flights as part of the K-SWARM programme.
  • The live trials assessed and validated collaborative and coordinated operations through advanced, next-generation algorithms.
  • The transition from simulation to live operation, leveraging a digital engineering approach, marked a pivotal step in demonstrating the programme’s advanced solutions and technologies.
  • The capabilities demonstrated in the trials represent an essential enabler for future combat air systems, and are a core pillar in the evolution of current generation fighters.
Leonardo and Baykar set a major milestone in the development of Crewed/UnCrewed Teaming (CUC-T) and swarm tactics capabilities, after successfully completing the first phase of live testing activities for the K-SWARM programme. The programme is aimed at designing and developing interoperability between crewed and uncrewed aircraft.

Collaborative combat teaming has increasingly become a key enabler of future combat air systems, and part of the evolution of current generation fighters. Today’s design of Crewed/UnCrewed Teaming (CUC-T) is one of the fundamental strands for the transformation of military and security tools in all domains. Its’ importance is not only technological, but also operational, doctrinal and industrial. The testing was carried out in May at one of Baykar’s flight and test center in Çorlu, Türkiye. The flight test campaign involved two Leonardo M-346 airplanes - a Leonardo owned M-346 Fighter Attack Variant, with an Italian Air Force’s T-346A acting as chase aircraft - and the Bayraktar KIZILELMA Uncrewed Fighter Aircraft.

Testing activities consisted of a series of missions aimed at assessing latest generation algorithms as well as the relevant tactics and procedures developed by Leonardo at its Avionic, Flight Control Innovation Labs and product capability and concept laboratory, PC2LAB, in Turin, linked with an M-346 Full Mission Simulator in Venegono, Italy. In parallel, leveraging state-of-the-art software and hardware at Baykar facilities, Baykar integrated advanced smart fleet autonomy capabilities into the CUC-T algorithms. KIZILELMA’s advanced autonomy capabilities greatly simplified the integration process, allowing for seamless implementation and rapid deployment.

These were brought into action during the M-346/KIZILELMA formation flights, supporting the validation of advanced collaboration and coordination of different high performance combat platforms and air systems, as the programme marked the transition from simulation to live operations.

An advanced radio frequency data exchange system allowed for the synchronization of all data shared between the M-346 and KIZILELMA platforms, protected by Leonardo GCC Tactical Platform. This proprietary cyber defence platform protects and monitors systems in real time, allowing for effective command and control of the planned flight formations.

During the flight campaign, following an autonomous taxi and take-off, the KIZILELMA autonomously rejoined the M346 Fighter Attack using Smart Fleet Autonomy algorithms developed by the Baykar’s Hardware-in-the-Loop (HIL) Laboratory, enabling the M346 to subsequently assume full control of the unmanned aircraft. Using a newly developed fully integrated onboard avionic suite, the M-346 pilots commanded different formations which were autonomously executed by KIZILELMA through a dedicated crewed/uncrewed computing system. Different maneuvers and formations, including position changes, separations and rejoins were successfully tested with the KIZILELMA accurately responding to the M-346 commands.

The activities performed in Çorlu were the result of extensive and intense preparation work, including pilots and technicians, which were jointly carried out over several months by the Leonardo and Baykar teams. This extensive work resulted in the trials achieving the required level of technical integration of the systems, the development of testing scenarios, the algorithms validation and ensured the tests could be managed and completed safely and effectively.

The data and analysis gathered has been crucial in defining the next steps in the K-SWARM programme, as it moves into more complex operations requiring greater situational awareness and assets working together ‘as one’ towards mission objectives.

The refinement and maturity of “AI” technology, algorithms and collaborative procedures will enable the uncrewed systems to incrementally shift from remote piloting to autonomy, with the aim of reducing pilot workload and increasing mission efficiency while maintaining full control and decision-making. New tests are planned in the coming months, with increasing complexity and additional functions.

The first phase of trials demonstrates the solid partnership between Leonardo and Baykar, and their respective technology and industrial competences. It confirms the companies’ competitive advantage in the field and represents a concrete step towards the development of critical capabilities for modern combat air operations in multidomain operational scenarios."

 

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Why did Baykar run the test with Leonardo?

Did we complete the same tests with hürjet and pur f16s?

Do we lack hardware for such tests?

Is this a door for KE opening exports to Italy?
Baykar didn't just run the test with Leonardo. An Italian Air Force T-346 was also used as a chase plane, Italian AF was there as a possible interested customer.
 
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