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Military sales are to Czechia probably gets funneled to Ukraine who already uses and is familiar with Igla. And we get to replace our old stocks SungurWhen did we sell igla and not sungur?
Military sales are to Czechia probably gets funneled to Ukraine who already uses and is familiar with Igla. And we get to replace our old stocks SungurWhen did we sell igla and not sungur?
We never had Igla in service. 65 of anything is also probably higher than what we ever captured from PKK. Maybe coupled with what's retrieved from Syria and caught arms dealers etc.Military sales are to Czechia probably gets funneled to Ukraine who already uses and is familiar with Igla. And we get to replace our old stocks Sungur
Not necessarily for us but we bought Soviet/russian arms and gave them to Libya and Syrian rebels so maybe something like that?We never had Igla in service. 65 of anything is also probably higher than what we ever captured from PKK. Maybe coupled with what's retrieved from Syria and caught arms dealers etc.
We did not provide MANPADS to any non state group.Not necessarily for us but we bought Soviet/russian arms and gave them to Libya and Syrian rebels so maybe something like that?
They signed a G2G contract, it's not yet clear which design will be supplied by which company. Just that it will be built in Turkey.Malaysia will buy STM LPD design
New contracts will come for aselsan and roketsan![]()
PT PAL expects contract for third and fourth Red White frigates in 2026
PT PAL expects a procurement contract for Indonesia's third and fourth Red White frigates to be signed in 2026, the company's CEO Kaharuddin Djenod told Janes in a...www.janes.com
PT PAL expects contract for third and fourth Red White frigates in 2026
PT PAL expects a procurement contract for Indonesia's third and fourth Red White frigates to be signed in 2026, the company's CEO Kaharuddin Djenod told Janes in a recent interview.
The follow-on vessels will retain the form factor of the first two Red White frigates but are designed to accommodate enhanced combat capabilities, Djenod said.
“It will not have more than 64 VLS [vertical launching system] cells as that's the maximum for this design,” he said. “But each of the cells and venting systems in the VLS can potentially accommodate larger missile types.”
This approach would allow the Indonesian Navy to enhance the class's overall combat effect without increasing the number of launch cells.
Indonesia's Red White frigate programme is based on Babcock's Arrowhead 140 design, although PT PAL has modified the baseline
That's still not certain. There's a rumor that the British lender financing the third and fourth Merah Putih frigates requires CAMM to be included as one of the ships' armaments. If that's true, then you can imagine what the rest of the SEWACO will be.New contracts will come for aselsan and roketsan
And will your country accept a lender meddling in your defence procurement ?That's still not certain. There's a rumor that the British lender financing the third and fourth Merah Putih frigates requires CAMM to be included as one of the ships' armaments. If that's true, then you can imagine what the rest of the SEWACO will be.
Well, that depends on how the negotiations with the British. I don't think the government would simply accept it as it is. We'll see what happens in the future.And will your country accept a lender meddling in your defence procurement ?
So, nearly everyone in "the west" ?And countries that were part of the embargo against us.
Yeah. I love to see them sitting on our laps and tell ‘em, tables have turned now but it doesn’t work that way. You need to be richer, disciplined and stabilized to dictate the terms.So, nearly everyone in "the west" ?
Exporting defence to west should be limited and just enough to use for PR. Exporting for a few 100 million is peanuts and doesn't really benefit our country in the long run. I think an arms deal should include commercial deal too. So if they import for 100 million. Missiles and such, they should import consumer products for 100 million too.Yeah. I love to see them sitting on our laps and tell ‘em, tables have turned now but it doesn’t work that way. You need to be richer, disciplined and stabilized to dictate the terms.
Only direct benefit we offer is shorter lead times on munitions and drone tech. All the rest is stuff they can make themselves or buy from many other interested sellers. We simply do not have such a luxury to reject a business proposal.Exporting defence to west should be limited and just enough to use for PR. Exporting for a few 100 million is peanuts and doesn't really benefit our country in the long run. I think an arms deal should include commercial deal too. So if they import for 100 million. Missiles and such, they should import consumer products for 100 million too.
Wow, you got cocky real fastYeah. I love to see them sitting on our laps and tell ‘em, tables have turned now but it doesn’t work that way. You need to be richer, disciplined and stabilized to dictate the terms.