Azerbaijan Azerbaijan Defence Forum

[Corvus]

where's the outrage? How can we share our defence technology and products with Saudi Arabia if they are willing to cooperate with Palantir

I didn't know about the Saudis, thank you for bringing it into my attention.

However, despite all the attempts I couldn't find much info about the extent of their cooperation.

Specifically, I couldn't find any info about:

cooperation in national data integration, artificial intelligence management, cybersecurity, and critical infrastructure monitoring?

Could you share your source about it?

And if we put aside whataboutism, don't you guys think it is a serious risk for us? Be it Azerbaijan, Saudi or any other country that trust its data&cyber security to AI companies? All the serious intel agencies in the world are already working hard on weaponizing AI.

 

[2033]

A few days ago, when I said Aliyev targeted Turkey, you deleted my posts. Now everyone sees who he was targeting. Tomorrow, Netanyahu is visiting Azerbaijan. It is very sad that Azerbaijan is one of the few countries a person found guilty of genocide can visit. Considering this along with the hijab ban in the country, I think Aliyev will seriously take Israel's side against Turkey. Unfortunately, as long as Aliyev is leading Azerbaijan, I do not expect relations to return to a brotherly level again. I send my respect to my Azerbaijani brothers and sisters, but Aliyev has chosen Israel

 

[TR_123456]

A few days ago, when I said Aliyev targeted Turkey, you deleted my posts. Now everyone sees who he was targeting. Tomorrow, Netanyahu is visiting Azerbaijan. It is very sad that Azerbaijan is one of the few countries a person found guilty of genocide can visit. Considering this along with the hijab ban in the country, I think Aliyev will seriously take Israel's side against Turkey. Unfortunately, as long as Aliyev is leading Azerbaijan, I do not expect relations to return to a brotherly level again. I send my respect to my Azerbaijani brothers and sisters, but Aliyev has chosen Israel

They can say the same about us,just think about it from an Azerbaijani perspective.

 

[Tonyukuk]

A few days ago, when I said Aliyev targeted Turkey, you deleted my posts. Now everyone sees who he was targeting. Tomorrow, Netanyahu is visiting Azerbaijan. It is very sad that Azerbaijan is one of the few countries a person found guilty of genocide can visit. Considering this along with the hijab ban in the country, I think Aliyev will seriously take Israel's side against Turkey. Unfortunately, as long as Aliyev is leading Azerbaijan, I do not expect relations to return to a brotherly level again. I send my respect to my Azerbaijani brothers and sisters, but Aliyev has chosen Israel

No, AKP MPs were targetting Azerbaijan weeks prior. That's what started the spat.

 

[Tonyukuk]

A few days ago, when I said Aliyev targeted Turkey, you deleted my posts. Now everyone sees who he was targeting. Tomorrow, Netanyahu is visiting Azerbaijan. It is very sad that Azerbaijan is one of the few countries a person found guilty of genocide can visit. Considering this along with the hijab ban in the country, I think Aliyev will seriously take Israel's side against Turkey. Unfortunately, as long as Aliyev is leading Azerbaijan, I do not expect relations to return to a brotherly level again. I send my respect to my Azerbaijani brothers and sisters, but Aliyev has chosen Israel

They can say the same about us,just think about it from an Azerbaijani perspective.

AKP has been cosying up with Armenia for years, yet AKP expects Azerbaijan to not have ties with Israel that has been a solid ally for Azerbaijan for years prior.


One thing is clear, lots of these Islamist influencers are agents of influence that are actively trying to destroy Azerbaijan-Türkiye relations. Hell some of them even shared pics of the Armenia flag hoisted and the Azerbaijan flag on the ground. These people need to be dealt with ASAP.

 

[Corvus]

No, AKP MPs were targetting Azerbaijan weeks prior. That's what started the spat.

Which MPs and what did they say exactly?

They can say the same about us,just think about it from an Azerbaijani perspective.

I didn't see anything negative coming out from Turkish officials. On the contrary, every official statement underlined the brotherhood between ouR countries and respected Azerbaijani sovereignty.

I asked a few days ago but couldn't get any response so I'm asking again:

Why did Aliyev make these statements while there was no visible problem? Why he suddenly decided to ban hijab?
I talked to many Azerbaijanis recently. None of them seem to understand what is going on and they are very frustrated.

 

[2033]

Which MPs and what did they say exactly?


I didn't see anything negative coming out from Turkish officials. On the contrary, every official statement underlined the brotherhood between ouR countries and respected Azerbaijani sovereignty.

I asked a few days ago but couldn't get any response so I'm asking again:

Why did Aliyev make these statements while there was no visible problem? Why he suddenly decided to ban hijab?
I talked to many Azerbaijanis recently. None of them seem to understand what is going on and they are very frustrated.

Here is my answer. He wanted an excuse to choose Israel. By banning the hicab, he provoked a reaction from Turkey to cut ties with Turkey and get closer to Israel.

 

[Iskander]

Which MPs and what did they say exactly?


I didn't see anything negative coming out from Turkish officials. On the contrary, every official statement underlined the brotherhood between ouR countries and respected Azerbaijani sovereignty.

I asked a few days ago but couldn't get any response so I'm asking again:

Why did Aliyev make these statements while there was no visible problem? Why he suddenly decided to ban hijab?
I talked to many Azerbaijanis recently. None of them seem to understand what is going on and they are very frustrated.

Here are a few examples

 

[2033]

Here are a few examples

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Are you kidding me? In a country of 90 million people, will no one react! Even if the hijab were banned in Greece, someone in Turkey would still protest.

 

[Iskander]

Which MPs and what did they say exactly?


I didn't see anything negative coming out from Turkish officials. On the contrary, every official statement underlined the brotherhood between ouR countries and respected Azerbaijani sovereignty.

I asked a few days ago but couldn't get any response so I'm asking again:

Why did Aliyev make these statements while there was no visible problem? Why he suddenly decided to ban hijab?9
I talked to many Azerbaijanis recently. None of them seem to understand what is going on and they are very frustrated.

Here is what the Armenian press is reporting satisfaction:

Protests were held in front of Azerbaijan's diplomatic missions in Turkey (Video)

"...In recent days, a wave of criticism directed at Azerbaijan has emerged in Turkey, stemming from both Baku’s domestic decisions and its foreign policy. Religious and conservative circles in Turkey—those close to the ruling establishment—are criticizing restrictions on wearing the hijab in Azerbaijani schools, drawing parallels to a past era of harsh secularist measures.

Dissatisfaction also arises from Azerbaijan’s relations with Israel and Baku’s stance on the international stage.

Meanwhile, Baku maintains that Azerbaijan, like Turkey, is a secular state, and therefore asserts that 'turning education policy into a subject of political manipulation is unacceptable.' Azerbaijan’s ruling party has called on Turkish politicians. not to interfere in the country's internal affairs."

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://golosarmenii.am/pered-dippredstavitelstvami-azerba/&ved=2ahUKEwikiLXFjrmXAxXE0gIHHbjPARwQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw02lzQdrSGmz_4s7Uj-qgX-

 

[Iskander]

Are you kidding me? In a country of 90 million people, will no one react! Even if the hijab were banned in Greece, someone in Turkey would still protest.

I agree with you. But you see, it isn't 90 million people who serve as presidential advisors, but just a handful. And if the chief among them allows a statement like "This is unacceptable" to be written regarding our domestic policy, then that represents a different level of reaction—and a different matter entirely.

 

[GoatsMilk]

geopolitical realities must always be taken into account. Azerbaijan has the Russians to their north and the iranians to their south. The EU was mostly pro armenia with the french being the biggest mouthpieces for that bloc. If Azerbaijan was against Isreal, that would mean the USA would be against Azerbaijan. This would be suicide.

If they wanted to get their lands back, they had no choice then to have positive relations with isreal. Because if they didnt and the USA used their political and economic weight against Azerbaijan, there is no way that war could have been concluded to the advantage of both Azerbaijan and Turkiye.

I'm personally of the opinion this is all theatre. Its good for the "islamist" erdogan and its good for the "realist" Aliyev. It basically distracts the Turkish people from the massive AK party scandal in which ak party members personally benefited from which robbed the nations peoples of billions. While it helps Aliyev convince the global anglo-american zionist instrument that Azerbaijan isnt just a tool of erdogan.

Secularists/Islamists in Turkiye have licked the arses of the Americans, the British, the French and the Germans, not out of love, but because of geopolitical realities. Why do you think erdogan keeps begging for the F35. You think in terms of crimes against Muslims that America is any less innocent then isreal? Wake up.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Aliyev understands the game, he knows that Turkiye is not strong enough yet to be the deciding factor. The deciding factor is the USA. As long as he can have good relations with the USA, there is nothing Russia or Iran or anyone else can do to Azerbaijan. Because as long as he has good relations with the USA, it not only means that the power the USA can exert will not only not be used against his country, but it means that when Turkiye supports Azerbaijan the international outrage and pressure against Turkiye will be limited. You Turks remember the sanctions and embargoes on military parts because Azerbaijan used TB2's. Imagine if the USA placed a full military embargo on Turkiye for supporting Azerbaijan. imaigine if the USA desinated Azerbiajan in a way where dealing with them would get you blacklisted internationally. It would have been an easy sell in the west "the barbaric Turks slaughtering the christian Armenians" is how they would have sold it. Imagine they took the gypsy pkk terrorists and turned them into freedom fighters.

The only real way Azerbaijan can have those relations with the USA is via Isreal.

Truthfully, Turkiye should never entered this umtard path where we decide to have all this friction now with zionism. We don't even have our own airforce, we are dependent on old american made f16's, the country who makes Isreal powerful. We should kept things smooth until 2040, ideally 2050. Then once you got your powerful military, by all means deal with them.

On a side note i also find it very interesting that the minister being shown as the poster child for the AK party theft and corruption is wearing a hijab.

 

[2033]

I'm personally of the opinion this is all theatre.

I hope so

 

[Corvus]

Here are a few examples

I don't see any official negative statement from any significant person here.

All I see is an AI made propaganda poster with random quotes from mysterious sources, that is clearly aiming to hurt Türkiye-Azerbaijan relationship.

I would like to ask once again; why did Aliyev decided to ban hijab out of nowhere and why he openly made negative statements? What is the general Azerbaijani view on this?

 

[Corvus]

Here is my answer. He wanted an excuse to choose Israel. By banning the hicab, he provoked a reaction from Turkey to cut ties with Turkey and get closer to Israel.

That's what I'm increasingly afraid about. But I still don't understand why would he choose Israel over Türkiye? Do the Jews have THAT much control on Aliyev?

 

[Barry]

Are they just banning the culturally invasive hijab, or are properly Turkish headdresses banned, too?