I am Pakhtun

[Saiyan0321]

an awesome thread @Kaptaan. let me add some of my family history

 

[Nilgiri]

an awesome thread @Kaptaan. let me add some of my family history

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Saiyan ole chap, I guess you literally are joseph-son?

 

[Saiyan0321]

Saiyan ole chap, I guess you literally are joseph-son?

lolzzz that is the story. The Yousafzai, burkis, niazis, afridis, kakayzais, sadozais, malayzais, and all the other tribes all have a rich history from Khyber to Rohilkhand and while they expanded both eastward and westward, their center remained this land and it is here they live and have lived for thousands of years and expanded, as they are expanding now reaching regions like Karachi and Quetta, however their link to this land has never been broken. They built most of the region comprising central Pakistan and have history and stories dating thousands of years.

My maternal grand uncle wrote several books on Pathan geneology and one on the role of Jalandhar and movement for Pakistan.

The area in lahore, rewaz garden, santanagar, krishanagar have been home to various pathan families for hundreds of years.

 

[Saiyan0321]

akistan has the largest population of Pakhtuns in the world

The census in Pakistan is absolute rubbish since it doesnt bother to deepen the queastion and works on generalizations. The amount of Pathans in Punjab alone make the Pakhtuns a massive community if Pakistan was to count Pathans in Sindh and Punjab. The pathans in Punjab get branded as punjabi but are ethnic pakhtuns and have paklhtun traditions and links. Frankly it is the pakhtuns that are the center of Pakistan and have a presence in all the regions of Pakistan and history over there as well. Each region in Pakistan has a pakhtun history that dates centuries back for some areas like Sheikhupura (Home to Malayzais) and thousands of years like KPK and swat.

Frankly in a better world, Pashto would have united Pakistan rather than Urdu

 

[Kaptaan]

The census in Pakistan is absolute rubbish since it doesnt bother to deepen the queastion and works on generalizations. The amount of Pathans in Punjab alone make the Pakhtuns a massive community if Pakistan was to count Pathans in Sindh and Punjab. The pathans in Punjab get branded as punjabi but are ethnic pakhtuns and have paklhtun traditions and links. Frankly it is the pakhtuns that are the center of Pakistan and have a presence in all the regions of Pakistan and history over there as well. Each region in Pakistan has a pakhtun history that dates centuries back for some areas like Sheikhupura (Home to Malayzais) and thousands of years like KPK and swat.

Frankly in a better world, Pashto would have united Pakistan rather than Urdu

10/10 boss.

 

[Kaptaan]

A tribute by Ali Zafar featuring madam Gul Panra to the city of Peshawar or Pekhavar

 

[Wasim Khan]

They often make it sound sinister. The fact is in every country with a multi-ethnic make up [that covers most of the countries] will have rivalries between differant groups and tussles over resources. This applies to Turkey, to Spain, to UK where Scots often complain about the English. This is entirely human phenomenon and to be expected. However as I said before the most important institution in Pakistan - the army is primarily a Punjabi and Pakhtun force. Yes, there are extreme groups on the fringes but they don't carry much national currency.


They are most dominant in population so that feeds into everything. Also Punjab has huge agriculture dating from British times when irigation farming took off on huge scale. Thus Punjab is today Pakistan's breadbasket. So there is some substance to that.

There is another factor to bear in mind. Modernity arrived in this part of the world with the British. Prior to that this region had effectively been left behind by world events. This factor is a important one when comparing Turkey as a society to places like Pakistan. Turkey being on the door step of Europe was touched by the winds of Renaissance and thus had plenty of time to evolve. Our part of the world was cut off from progress and remained stagnant thus was hundreds of years behind by the time the British arrived.

When the British arrived they were vector for change and introduction to modernity. This is when schools, universities teaching modern subjects were established. This process of modernity being introduced was not equal across their empire. The regions they took over first recieved most of this process of change. The British arrived in what is now India/Bangladesh in 1700s whereas the arrived in what is now Pakistan in 1849. So your talking of extra century of British rule. That allowed lot of time for permeation of modern thought.

Within what is now Pakistan Punjab recieved the most influence by the British as it was firest to fall under trheir rule. The Pakhtun areas on the western side came later under British rule and even then the border zones remained contested with regular wars with the British Empire. This is another reason why Punjab has advantage.

However times are changing. If you look at PTI government education forms top priority and Khyber Pakhtunkwa Province has made incredible progress in education and it is nice to see that this also extends to female education. This all will have major impact with a generation on Pakistan as hidden energy of this part of Pakistan really impacts the national tapestry.


Yes. This is true. Pakhtuns tend to be more conservative and religious. This partly has to do with what I said above but there are other reasons. There is reason to think that religion was given extra importance by the state in this part of Pakistan as a way to neutralize the strong ethno-centrism sentiments revolving around the idea of Pashtunistan. These sentiment often revolved around ethnic supremacism and religion was a tool to muffle such movements. Much diminshed today but they still do persist within fringe parties unfortunately, which are secular and often left leaning. `

But change is coming. We are what we are through our experiances, education and ideas that we have been exposed to. The borderlands or what were until recently called 'tribal regions' had the least developed areas of Pakistan and Pakhtun traditional codes held sway with some of the lowest female literacy rates in the country. But education and exposure can bring enormous change. One great example of this is the present Minister of Climate Change Mrs Zartaj Gul in PM Imran Khan's government. She was born in tribal areas and today is a federal minister. She is a pointer to the future which is where I like looking at then dwelling on the present. Change is law of nature and we should accept and celebrate it. Personally I am very excited about the future of Pakistan. It's the people with enormous abilities, untapped at the moment that gives me hope.

A young female Pakhtun, from tribal areas, today a federal minister. This is sort of change that will bring progress to Pakistan.

I think you are trying to support political party by mentioning a minister of PTI.
Secondly you are mentioning a lady that has no part in tribal culture.
Such people cannot play any role in the develepment of country and the areas where they belong to.

 

[Agha Sher]

Are you Pasthun or non-Pastun ethnic bro ?

I am Pashtun

 

[KamBhakth]

The book says "History of Pathans". Are Pathans and Pakhtuns interchangeable. Here in India, we only use the word Pathan.