TR Marine Mavi Vatan (Blue Homeland)

[Yasar_TR]

Turkey is funding the France military industry like no other. We should receive some kind of commission for all the Greece deals.

They won’t give you the commission when the debtor forfeits her debt and can’t pay the creditor!
In short; France should get a big glass of cold Evian to drink ! (Our Turkish speakers will know what this means)

 

[Huelague]

Give the diplomacy last chance. If failed, take everything.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1357069802033004545

UK trying to come up with a plan for Cyprus, in federal solution each side elects their own leader and elect a president for the isle together.

As the greeks have majority they’ll be electing the president always.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1357388198138294274

Bought a new ship. Beaucratic work in progress.

 

[Anthony]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1358432680422088708

"Greece has unlawfully armed the islands within the scope of the 1923 Lausanne Treaty, the 1947 Paris Peace Treaty and EGAYDAAK. As a result of our work ◾️ 3 Air ◾️ 8 Seas ◾️ 5 Radar ◾️ We have identified at least 86 Greek military points, including 70 ~ Land base."

Translation by adenl.

 

[adenl]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1358432680422088708

"Greece has unlawfully armed the islands within the scope of the 1923 Lausanne Treaty, the 1947 Paris Peace Treaty and EGAYDAAK. As a result of our work ◾️ 3 Air ◾️ 8 Seas ◾️ 5 Radar ◾️ We have identified at least 86 Greek military points, including 70 ~ Land base."

I think that there is a high chance that these islands will be demilitarized, either willingly or by force by 2025, if not sooner.

 

[Ecderha]

How? Greece GDP 2020 forecast -10 %?

In this kind of situations like greece is it right now and It will be for at list next 10 years (default state).
You need to look how this kind of situations was handled in history. We can see and understand that when greece start Crying/Bitching then EU members comes and help (I mean that EU pay or provide all that is need it for greece ).
At moment realty say that greece is in state of default, but WHO is the owner of greece DEBTS. IT is EU members so there is no problem with greece about debts.

But if it was Turkiye then we need to be realists that in this situation EU and US will put more pressure to fuck up Turks with more debts with twisting hands, make them to obey etc...
If it is about buying something then for Turkiye is always the best OLD/JUNK as a platform.
Just check history examples :
For Turkiye were offred nothing new. Only 5 time more expensive SECOND hand junks with striped mode platform
-German tanks
-US frigates, attack helicopters, weapons
-France Anti tank weapons

There were some exceptions, but I don't want to say what were payied for them - > as all like to say "you can have from time to time something good"

 

[GoatsMilk]

In this kind of situations like greece is it right now and It will be for at list next 10 years (default state).
You need to look how this kind of situations was handled in history. We can see and understand that when greece start Crying/Bitching then EU members comes and help (I mean that EU pay or provide all that is need it for greece ).
At moment realty say that greece is in state of default, but WHO is the owner of greece DEBTS. IT is EU members so there is no problem with greece about debts.

But if it was Turkiye then we need to be realists that in this situation EU and US will put more pressure to fuck up Turks with more debts with twisting hands, make them to obey etc...
If it is about buying something then for Turkiye is always the best OLD/JUNK as a platform.
Just check history examples :
For Turkiye were offred nothing new. Only 5 time more expensive SECOND hand junks with striped mode platform
-German tanks
-US frigates, attack helicopters, weapons
-France Anti tank weapons

There were some exceptions, but I don't want to say what were payied for them - > as all like to say "you can have from time to time something good"

yes, greece in every sense of the word is a slave state to eu/us interests. We are not dealing with the greeks, we are dealing with their owners.

What Turkey should have been doing is conducting an information campaign within greece to wake her citizens up to how she is being used and abused to serve imperial ambitons of others, while they keep her debt ridden and backward.

The common greek has far less in common with a german, frenchman or austrian then he does the Turk.

 

[Ecderha]

yes, greece in every sense of the word is a slave state to eu/us interests. We are not dealing with the greeks, we are dealing with their owners.

What Turkey should have been doing is conducting an information campaign within greece to wake her citizens up to how she is being used and abused to serve imperial ambitons of others, while they keep her debt ridden and backward.

The common greek has far less in common with a german, frenchman or austrian then he does the Turk.

Mate it is seems that you missing things big time.
I agree with you logic, but when 2008 year started and US bank crisis CAME, all debts owners triggered actions to get what ever they can from debt side owners.

This kicked and reveal that greece is the most source of debts side. EU and USA become aware about greece situation in that crisis year. It beacome clear the most default county in world is greece. It become a headline news about greece real debt it was and it is still 270% in debts.
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Then those things which you said started in greece from citizens of greece "they wake up and they made so many raids on streets, clashes etc. it continuted more then 4 years ministers, parties, ppl were changed, reassigned.
But it does not change greece, it is default contry with no big assets to cover things.
"They said back then that greece is a person in comma (already death) but EU keep that person in coma with drugs"

About greece ppl they are with fucked minds "I mean they were lied so many years from officials and from their religion pops that greece ppl mind is biased and obsessed with Turkiye". There is not happy end for them they made this on themself

 

[Ghost soldier]

Gerece is on the attack again. 6 frigates to be purchased from France. At least 4 of them will be new. We need to get our finger out and start on those 3 frigates and the Barbaros modernisation.

Yunanistan’dan fırkateyn tedarik planı | SavunmaSanayiST

Yunan Savunma Bakanı Panagiotopulos göre; Yunanistan, Fransa’dan dört adedi yeni olmak üzere altı adet fırkateyn tipi savaş gemisi tedarik etmeyi amaçlıyor.

www.savunmasanayist.com

As long as Greece keep buying weps on this intensity then I expect to they will face bankruptcy like in 2006 and 1995

 

[Nutuk]

Etsinler, zaten bizim planlar yürürlükte

4x I sinifi
7x TF2000

Adamlarin safti kaydi

Mod translate: Let them do it. Our plans are moving.

4x I class
7x TF2000

Please translate your posts in English. Thank you!

 

[Ardabas34]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1357069802033004545

UK trying to come up with a plan for Cyprus, in federal solution each side elects their own leader and elect a president for the isle together.

As the greeks have majority they’ll be electing the president always.

Wow, things were going good with UK, what happened now?
Though I was always sceptical anyway. They are too close to US to actually be on Turks side.

 

[what]

Wow, things were going good with UK, what happened now?
Though I was always sceptical anyway. They are too close to US to actually be on Turks side.

Just because UK is business friendly with Turkey doesn't mean they will change their foreign policy.

As a matter of fact I think it's in the interest of UK to keep the conflict ongoing, because once things are settled they will eventually turn to removing the British base from the island. They even offered to go once settled but we all know it's not going to be settled anytime soon.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1358788603191693313

Frankfurt newspaper pointing out that EU is not supporting Greece’s maximalist goals but are on the side laws etc.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359058246934396929

Nicaraguas island on Colombian side will not have EEZ, cases like these strengthens Turkey’s thesis.

 

[adenl]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1358788603191693313

Frankfurt newspaper pointing out that EU is not supporting Greece’s maximalist goals but are on the side laws etc.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359058246934396929

Nicaraguas island on Colombian side will not have EEZ, cases like these strengthens Turkey’s thesis.

Articles like these should make it obvious that the 'free' media in the west is not as free as one thinks but often acts as the proclaimer of the state, in this particular case the foreign ministry.

 

[Turko]

Look, Chile as tiny country, having bought from Australia two Adelaide class frigates, now request SM-2 missiles .
Mavi Vatan needs areal air defence systems.

Chile requests sale of SM-2 Block IIIA missiles from US

The Chilean Government is seeking to procure Standard Missile-2 (SM-2) Block IIIA missiles through the US foreign military sale (FMS) programme.

www.naval-technology.com

 

[Vergennes]

La France pourrait céder deux frégates légères furtives modernisées à la Grèce​

La France pourrait céder deux frégates légères furtives modernisées à la Grèce - Zone Militaire

En 2025, la Marine nationale devra disposer de huit frégates multimissions , deux frégates de défense aérienne , de deux frégates de défense et

www.opex360.com

Confirmed Greece is interested in acquiring 6 frigates from France. 4 FDI and 2 Lafayette as a short term solution. The French offer is the one prefered by Greek political and military leaders. A decision could be made next month. 2 of the FDI could be built in Greece to support local naval shipyards.

 

[Test7]

CaspianReport told potential benefits of the Turkey-Israel agreement in the eastern mediterranean . It is very important to express these ideas. Israelis need to realize what they are gifting to South Cyprus.

 

[King_West]

CaspianReport told potential benefits of the Turkey-Israel agreement in the eastern mediterranean . It is very important to express these ideas. Israelis need to realize what they are gifting to South Cyprus.

You think that Israel doesnt know that? The fact of the matter is that Turkey needs to earn Israels trust first before Israel will agree to a deal like that. Israel will not make an enemy out of Greece and Cyprus for Turkey, as Turkeys attitude regarding Israel can change with the wind. Imagine Israel making a deal like that with Turkey (and thus straining its ties with Greece and Cyprus), when they are not sure what Turkeys position regarding Israel will be 2 months from now. It would be a huge gamble for Israel. Risking to losing allies left and right, when Turkey can easily turn their back on them like Turkey did in the past. It would be simply too much of a risk for Israel.