Revealed: China’s New Super Submarine Dwarfs Typhoon Class

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Revealed: China’s New Super Submarine Dwarfs Typhoon Class
The new submarine, identified as the Type-100 Class, is armed with 48 Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles (SLBMs). It can also carry ginormous nuclear-powered nuclear-armed autonomous torpedoes. And a hangar on its back indicates a smaller submarine will also be supported. There is no doubt that this is the new god of submarines.

01 Apr 2021

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The New Submarine is massively larger than previous Chinese Navy Nuclear Submarines.


For decades the Russian Navy’s mighty Pr.941 Typhoon Class submarine has been the largest ever built. And size is relevant, both for political messaging as well as military reasons. Giant submarines can have greater stealth (due to space for quieting), greater survivability, and can operate for longer.

But the Typhoon’s reign is over. The Chinese Navy’s (PLAN – People’s Liberation Army Navy) latest submarine is even larger.

Launched earlier today at the Bohai Shipyard in Huludao, China, the new submarine is believed to be the Type-100 ‘Sun Tzu’ class. The timing, together with its type number, appear to refer to the 100th year anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

The vessel is approximately 210 meters (690 feet) long and about 30 meters (100 feet) across. This compares to a paltry 175 meters (574 feet, sources vary) and 23 meters (75 feet) for the Typhoon Class. Although figures for the new submarine’s displacement are not known, it is almost certainly greater than the 48,000 ton Typhoon.

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The Pr.941 Typhoon Class is widely known as the largest submarine in the world. But it’s reign has come to an end thanks to a new Chinese Navy submarine, the Type-100. Photo Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA)


To put this into perspective, the new super submarine is three-to-four times the size of the U.S. Navy’s Ohio class boomer.

And while the Ohio class carries 24 ballistic missiles, the Chinese submarine can carry 48. The Typhoon class only carried 20 although that was partly a political decision. This undoubtedly makes the new class the most heavily armed in the world. It is possible that some of the missile silos will be used for carrier-killing anti-ship ballistic missiles.

In the bow are at least 8 Intercontinental nuclear-powered nuclear-armed hydrosonic torpedoes. These weapons are similar to the Russian Navy’s Poseidon weapon. These have an effectively unlimited range and will be very hard to counter with current weapons. Its development, so soon after Russia moved forward with Poseidon, suggests that Poseidon has been exported. Or that some degree of a technology transfer has taken place.

The shift to a massive submarine may hint, like Typhoon, at an Arctic role. China regards itself as a Near-Arctic country and may intend to use the ice cap to protect its at-sea nuclear deterrence.

Despite being the largest submarine in the world, its dimensions are just within the boundaries of Suezmax. This means that it is still small enough to squeeze through the Suez Canal. This will be critical as China increasingly looks to the Mediterranean as the frontier with Western powers.

On the back is an open hangar which is about the same size as a special submarine previously identified. The ‘sailless’ submarine (it’s official designation is not known) has been built in Shanghai. Possibly its purpose is to be carried by the Type-100.

One potential use for this is to provide layered self-defense for the host submarine. Another possibility is that it tis is for severing undersea internet cables in times of war. It has been suggested that this tactic could be used to bring about the immediate collapse of Western economies.

The new submarine is expected to be the centerpiece of a massive military paraded in Beijing as part of the CCP’s 100 years celebrations in July. More than anything, this previously unreported submarine is a sign of the changing times. April 1st 2021 will go down in history as the start of a new era in submarines.


 
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Even it is a joke for now, I believe China can make it a reality soon, 10 years ago when someone talked about China's infrastructure was catching up with US, people dismissed it as a joke.
And Now China is the world biggest ship builder with the world largest submarine construction factory, so why not.
 

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Even it is a joke for now, I believe China can make it a reality soon, 10 years ago when someone talked about China's infrastructure was catching up with US, people dismissed it as a joke.
And Now China is the world biggest ship builder with the world largest submarine construction factory, so why not.
Just take the L like a sport man. Admit you been punked and laugh it off. Don't make excuses for it.
 

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Revealed: China’s New Super Submarine Dwarfs Typhoon Class
The new submarine, identified as the Type-100 Class, is armed with 48 Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles (SLBMs). It can also carry ginormous nuclear-powered nuclear-armed autonomous torpedoes. And a hangar on its back indicates a smaller submarine will also be supported. There is no doubt that this is the new god of submarines.

01 Apr 2021

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The New Submarine is massively larger than previous Chinese Navy Nuclear Submarines.


For decades the Russian Navy’s mighty Pr.941 Typhoon Class submarine has been the largest ever built. And size is relevant, both for political messaging as well as military reasons. Giant submarines can have greater stealth (due to space for quieting), greater survivability, and can operate for longer.

But the Typhoon’s reign is over. The Chinese Navy’s (PLAN – People’s Liberation Army Navy) latest submarine is even larger.

Launched earlier today at the Bohai Shipyard in Huludao, China, the new submarine is believed to be the Type-100 ‘Sun Tzu’ class. The timing, together with its type number, appear to refer to the 100th year anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

The vessel is approximately 210 meters (690 feet) long and about 30 meters (100 feet) across. This compares to a paltry 175 meters (574 feet, sources vary) and 23 meters (75 feet) for the Typhoon Class. Although figures for the new submarine’s displacement are not known, it is almost certainly greater than the 48,000 ton Typhoon.

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The Pr.941 Typhoon Class is widely known as the largest submarine in the world. But it’s reign has come to an end thanks to a new Chinese Navy submarine, the Type-100. Photo Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA)


To put this into perspective, the new super submarine is three-to-four times the size of the U.S. Navy’s Ohio class boomer.

And while the Ohio class carries 24 ballistic missiles, the Chinese submarine can carry 48. The Typhoon class only carried 20 although that was partly a political decision. This undoubtedly makes the new class the most heavily armed in the world. It is possible that some of the missile silos will be used for carrier-killing anti-ship ballistic missiles.

In the bow are at least 8 Intercontinental nuclear-powered nuclear-armed hydrosonic torpedoes. These weapons are similar to the Russian Navy’s Poseidon weapon. These have an effectively unlimited range and will be very hard to counter with current weapons. Its development, so soon after Russia moved forward with Poseidon, suggests that Poseidon has been exported. Or that some degree of a technology transfer has taken place.

The shift to a massive submarine may hint, like Typhoon, at an Arctic role. China regards itself as a Near-Arctic country and may intend to use the ice cap to protect its at-sea nuclear deterrence.

Despite being the largest submarine in the world, its dimensions are just within the boundaries of Suezmax. This means that it is still small enough to squeeze through the Suez Canal. This will be critical as China increasingly looks to the Mediterranean as the frontier with Western powers.

On the back is an open hangar which is about the same size as a special submarine previously identified. The ‘sailless’ submarine (it’s official designation is not known) has been built in Shanghai. Possibly its purpose is to be carried by the Type-100.

One potential use for this is to provide layered self-defense for the host submarine. Another possibility is that it tis is for severing undersea internet cables in times of war. It has been suggested that this tactic could be used to bring about the immediate collapse of Western economies.

The new submarine is expected to be the centerpiece of a massive military paraded in Beijing as part of the CCP’s 100 years celebrations in July. More than anything, this previously unreported submarine is a sign of the changing times. April 1st 2021 will go down in history as the start of a new era in submarines.


This is what happens when poorly coded propaganda AI bots start opening threads...can't really differentiate fake news from real ones


I guess mods should integrate "I'm not a robot" feature on this thread

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U.S. Military Struggling to Maintain High-Tech Edge Over China, which may disappear within 5 years
April 1, 2021

The Pentagon is facing major hurdles to maintain the U.S. military’s shrinking edge over China — and is struggling to update its arsenal and field new technology in hypersonics and artificial intelligence, the Washington Post reported.

According to the Post, some senior officials warn that China could be within five years of surpassing a U.S. military beset by a slow budgeting process, congressional requirements, and the Pentagon’s inability to piggyback on private-sector advances.

“It’s like the Pentagon is finding itself staring in the rearview mirror in the face of oncoming traffic,” Mackenzie Eaglen, a defense analyst at the American Enterprise Institute, told the Post.

The news outlet cited challenges including a lag in using Boeing’s KC-46 tanker, developed to replace the 1950s-era KC-135, the lack of full-rate production of a problem-plagued Lockheed Martin F-35 stealth fighter plane; and a race to keep up with China and Russia in hypersonic weapons.

Citing a report by a government-backed commission on artificial intelligence, the Post noted there’s also a dearth of needed skills among government personnel.

In the report, experts warn the window is closing on a shot to outmatch China, which has set a goal of AI primacy by 2030.

“The scope for action remains, but America’s room for maneuver is shrinking,” said the commission, which includes former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.

The Post reported the Pentagon may ultimately be forced to abandon a years-long attempt to create a $10 billion cloud infrastructure because of legal challenges, even as experts warn officials have underestimated the importance of software and underinvested in digital security.

Will Roper, who sought to accelerate Air Force innovation as the service’s top acquisition official during the Trump administration, told the Post that unlike during the Cold War, the bulk of U.S. research and development funding now takes place in the private sector, not in government.

“So, by not being able to tap commercial innovation, the military is losing out on most of its opportunities,” he told the news outlet.

Meanwhile, China’s defense transformation follows a principle known as “military-civil fusion,” which aims to allow the state to capitalize on private-sector advances, the Post reported. Overseen personally by President Xi Jinping, the strategy can include exploitation of dual-use products or even forced technology transfers.

Roper told the Post the U.S. military should focus on hardware and other ways to power major advances in software or AI.

“Scale is going to be against us in almost every case against China,” he said. “We’re going to be looking for technologies that are leaps ahead.”


 

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