TR Special Operations Forces and Tactical Response Teams

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I waited to much to create that thread. Everybody feel free to post any news and multimedia about all the Turkish military SOF, law enforcement and Gendarmerie tactical response teams. Thank you for the reminder @Zapper

Special Forces Command OKK
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Navy EOD SAS (Special Operations Capable)
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I waited to much to create that thread. Everybody feel free to post any news and multimedia about all the Turkish military SOF, law enforcement and Gendarmerie tactical response teams. Thank you for the reminder @Zapper

Special Forces Command OKK
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Navy SOF SAT
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Navy EOD SAS (Special Operations Capable)
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135th FAC and CSAR Squadron
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So which exactly is your most elite unit among all Turkish SOF? Like SEAL Team-6 (DEVGRU) is considered to be the best among US Tier-1 SOF units publicly known or the Alpha unit of Russian Spetznaz
 

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So which exactly is your most elite unit among all Turkish SOF? Like SEAL Team-6 (DEVGRU) is considered to be the best among US Tier-1 SOF units publicly known or the Alpha unit of Russian Spetznaz
I don't think I can answer your question when you put it that way. We first must understand that there are many different specializations within Special Operations Forces. Special Operations Forces is very wide term and as its western counterparts the Turkish Special Operations Forces have different units with different levels and types of specialization also different mission sets. The magic here happens when you can utilize in the best way all these specialized units in a coordinated action according to their specialization. Apart from the DEVGRU and CAG there are also other Tier 1 Special Mission Units within JSOC that deserves recognition. For example the AFSOC 24th Special Tactics Squadroon Pararescue Jumpers receive the longest SOF course in the US military and they are the best that the US military can offer in terms of combat casualty care force out there. They are also considered as Tier 1 units but their specialization is totally different from for example DEVGRU. They can do many things DEVGRU can't and vise versa. There are also many things that both units are capable of doing but one will be better than the other in certain tasks because of their specialization level and mission set.

Officially there is not known information about Tier 1 units of the Turkish Armed Forces. We know they are there but don't know anything like their name or how training or selection is done. The last known Tier 1 teams were part of the Combat Search and Rescue MAK of the Special Forces Command OKK. It is known that their tasks included much more than CSAR operations and they served all over the world. They were disbanded because of political reasons and the last known thing after them that we knew as kind of Tier 1 was the Special Missions Battalion that was specially created after the hostage crisis when DEASH captured 49 Turkish citizens including diplomats and security element from the Turkish Consulate in Mosul after they captured the city but as far as I know that battalion is no longer active. I am sure that the Special Forces Command (tied directly to the General Staff) and the Turkish National Intelligence Organization MIT posses such forces but it is highly classified.

The Special Forces Command have variety of teams with variety of skills and mission sets. The Special Forces Command is a Special Force. Different from other Special Operations Forces the Special Forces are capable of conducting five out of five main SOF tasks (Direct Actions, Counter-Terrorism, Special Reconnaissance, Unconventional Warfare, Foreign Internal Defence) and in the case of OKK even more. They are taking personnel from all over the armed forces regardless of branch. Within its command OKK haves HALO/HAHO qualified airborne troops, combat divers, counter-terrorism specialists, intelligence specialists, CBRN specialists etc. When all that potential and specialized personnel is combined under unified command and control structure that force can make miracles. I can't answer your question about who is best but I can say
that the Special Forces Command was and still is the most potent SOF command within the Turkish Armed Forces with its high standards of training, years of real combat experience, very diversified specialization trees, large manpower resource, high technology gear and special equipment, dedicated armored vehicle fleet and dedicated helicopter fleet.
 
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I don't think I can answer your question when you put it that way. We first must understand that there are many different specializations within Special Operations Forces. Special Operations Forces is very wide term and as its western counterparts the Turkish Special Operations Forces have different units with different levels and types of specialization also different mission sets. The magic here happens when you can utilize in the best way all these specialized units in a coordinated action according to their specialization. Apart from the DEVGRU and CAG there are also other Tier 1 Special Mission Units within JSOC that deserves recognition. For example the AFSOC 24th Special Tactics Squadroon Pararescue Jumpers receive the longest SOF course in the US military and they are the best that the US military can offer in terms of combat casualty care force out there. They are also considered as Tier 1 units but their specialization is totally different from for example DEVGRU. They can do many things DEVGRU can't and vise versa. There are also many things that both units are capable of doing but one will be better than the other in certain tasks because of their specialization level and mission set.

Officially there is not known information about Tier 1 units of the Turkish Armed Forces. We know they are there but don't know anything like their name or how training or selection is done. The last known Tier 1 teams were part of the Combat Search and Rescue MAK of the Special Forces Command OKK. It is known that their tasks included much more than CSAR operations and they served all over the world. They were disbanded because of political reasons and the last known thing after them that we knew as kind of Tier 1 was the Special Missions Battalion that was specially created after the hostage crisis when DEASH captured 49 Turkish citizens including diplomats and security element from the Turkish Consulate in Mosul after they captured the city but as far as I know that battalion is no longer active. I am sure that the Special Forces Command (tied directly to the General Staff) and the Turkish National Intelligence Organization MIT posses such forces but it is highly classified.

The Special Forces Command have variety of teams with variety of skills and mission sets. The Special Forces Command is a Special Force. Different from other Special Operations Forces the Special Forces are capable of conducting five out of five main SOF tasks (Direct Actions, Counter-Terrorism, Special Reconnaissance, Unconventional Warfare, Foreign Internal Defence) and in the case of OKK even more. They are taking personnel from all over the armed forces regardless of branch. Within its command OKK haves HALO/HAHO qualified airborne troops, combat divers, counter-terrorism specialists, intelligence specialists, CBRN specialists etc. When all that potential and specialized personnel is combined under unified command and control structure that force can make miracles. I can't answer your question about who is best but I can say
that the Special Forces Command was and still is the most potent SOF command within the Turkish Armed Forces with its high standards of training, years of real combat experience, very diversified specialization trees, large manpower resource, high technology gear and special equipment, dedicated armored vehicle fleet and dedicated helicopter fleet.
SAT? Afaik SATs are the best of the best. Direct equivalent of US Navy Seals.
 

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Can anyone specify the make and model of the gear & equipment being used
Left Special Forces Command Personnel: YDS uniform, specially designed vest for the OKK again by YDS , Ops-Core FAST helmet, Ops-Core RAC headset, S&S Precision Manta Strobe, FN Minimi

Right side SAT (Navy SOF): Can't see well but looks like Truspec Tactical Response pants, the top I can't identify, Condor made vest, Ops-Core Fast helmet, as far as I can see 3M Peltor headset, S&S Precision Manta Strobe, M4 RIS model with FabDefence stock, most probably EOTech XPS holographic sight.
SAT? Afaik SATs are the best of the best. Direct equivalent of US Navy Seals.
SAT are not a Tier 1 unit. SAT are regarded as Tier 2. SAT are good in what they do and the same goes to the US Navy SEALs. As I said different tasks require different specialization and SAT are probably the best in their branch as Navy's primary Special Operations Force.

If there is an island that have to be captured, if there is a ship that have to be attacked underwater, if there is sea borne infiltration and reconnaissance mission, if coastal base have to be hit and SOF are needed on the scene SAT are the first I would call but I doubt they will perform better than specialized OKK teams if we task them to infiltrate Iraq, gather intelligence in coordination with MIT on a terrorist organization, pose as taxy drivers and assassinate a pre-chosen HVT. OKK's missions and skills sets are also including underwater operations and diver teams but the emphasis of OKK is different. The different specializations are helping OKK to work as unified command that is capable of conducting special warfare. That is why I like the old name of Special Forces Command more.

The old name was Special Warfare Department and that name is helping people understand better what that command is all about.

SAT are the spearhead of Navy's special operations needs and OKK dive teams are playing more a supportive role because of the low number of SAT.
 

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Quality thread so far, it looks like it was merged into an earlier existing one.

With this post I will get updates. Carry on everyone :)
Some posts from the Multimedia thread were transferred as far as I can tell. We had one on PDF so it will be good to have one also here.
 

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Bro can you tell me how much of their equipment is Turkish? Because I’ve seen most SF operators in the world use American equipments mostly.
The Turkish SOF is not exclusion from that. Most of the equipment of the SOF of the armed forces is foreign made.
 

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Turkish Special Forces Command personnel in a joint Counter-Terrorism and Border Security exercise with Uzbekistani counterparts.
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