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[Huelague]

US presence is a deterence. Even if you have 100 American soldiers stationed in your country, it's not them you fear but the flag behind them.

In which country you trust to defend you?

 

[Huelague]

Russia will never invade Georgia and annex parts of it,
Russia will never invade Ukraine and annex parts of it,
Russia will never assist Assad and win,
Russia will never stay permanently in Syria they don't have the economy to support such an endeavour(Around this time the US tried acting as if they weren't supporting the Rebels to overthrow Assad and tried to paint their presence in Syria as an Anti-terror fight against the organization their own incompetence created in the first place),
Russia will never enter the Sahara region or Central-Africa, don't have the reach and economy for it.
Russia will never keep Belarus in its influence sphere(Couple months ago when europeans had their new delusions that they were gonna overthrow the pro-russia president with their eu-funded protests ) ,
Belarus will never become a russian puppet state <-- We are here

But we are delusional guys, not the people who have been stuttering the same shit on repeat for every conflict theater Russia has humiliated them in over the last decade. I'm sure the Baltics will be different, this time we won't let the russians get away! Its not like the US has abandoned Ukraine again just one month ago. Not at all.

I'm sure Putin won't invade and annex parts of a country and region that has significant Russian populations in it. Which Russia has been arguing now for years are being oppressed.

No no, not like Russia did it twice already. Oh wait....

The good thing is their hate (against Turks) make them blind and fool. And let them make mistakes.

 

[Sinan]

...and lots of keyboard warriors!

That's a given on an online platform...

 

[bsruzm]

Abdulkadir Selvi claims MbZ stands behind Peker in Dubai, isn't that obvious? Peker clearly said "If you can, come and take me.".

Who is using Sedat Peker?​

Everyday an action!
#baskayerdeyasayamam =)

 

[CAN_TR]

Rezalet!
They filled the Party with such clowns...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394553602925019138

 

[guest12]

Rezalet!
They filled the Party with such clowns...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394553602925019138

Like i said before current CHP got nothing to do with Kemalism , they just hide behind it.They are exact copy of 2001-2005 period AKP , full of American assests(Neo-Gulenists/Gladios). Resignation of Muharrem İnce was last nail now they are just Second HDP.

Those planning to vote in next elections have to make a choice : Prosperity or Independence you can't have them both.

 

[Deliorman]

Keeping the corrupt and incompetent mafia clique that ruins the country isn’t making you independent. Being a poor failed state isn’t making you independent.

So yeah... every single sane person would vote for prosperity.

 

[Sinan]

Claims From an Organized Crime Boss Rock Turkey’s Government​

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, already hampered by an economic crisis and a surge in coronavirus cases, is now battling allegations of corruption in his ranks.
Organized crime boss Sedat Peker in Istanbul in 2014.Credit...Islam Yakut/Anadolu Agency, via Getty Images


By Carlotta Gall
May 18, 2021, 11:56 a.m. ET
ISTANBUL — Sliding in opinion polls amid a severe economic crisis and a surge in coronavirus infections, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey is looking unusually embattled these days. And now his administration has been hit by a roiling corruption scandal that some say has a fin de siècle aura about it.
Even as the Israeli bombing of Gaza has filled their television screens over the past week, millions of Turks have been turning to YouTube to hear the latest extraordinary claims of a convicted organized crime boss, Sedat Peker, who is living in exile. In a series of videos over two weeks, Mr. Peker, who was found guilty in 2007 of organized criminal activity and is wanted again by the Turkish police, has flung accusations of rape, drug dealing and suspicious deaths against officials close to Mr. Erdogan.
Mr. Peker’s first accusation appeared aimed at the Pelikan group, a clique centered around Berat Albayrak, Mr. Erdogan’s son-in-law and a former finance minister; and Mehmet Agar, a disgraced former interior minister. But soon, his main target became Suleyman Soylu, the powerful and ambitious interior minister.
“Do not doubt, I will teach some tyrants that there is no more dangerous weapon than a man who dares to die,” Mr. Peker said on Twitter, advertising the third video. “Deep Statists, Pelikanists, you will be defeated by a camera on a tripod,” he added.
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The Interior Ministry, which raided Mr. Peker’s home in Istanbul in April as part of a broad investigation into his criminal network, has rejected his claims and said that it would continue its fight against organized crime. Mr. Soylu filed a criminal complaint on Monday against Mr. Peker over the accusations.
Undeterred, and speaking in a colloquial, devil-may-care manner, Mr. Peker released his fifth monologue on Sunday, mixing calculated revelations with the threat of further disclosures. He has been careful to avoid any direct accusations against Mr. Erdogan. But his descriptions of bitter infighting among rival groups around the president and of murky links between senior officials and the mob are nevertheless extremely damaging.



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President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara, Turkey, in April. Mr. Peker has been careful to avoid any direct accusations against the president.Credit...Murat Kula/Anadolu Agency, via Getty Images
Sensing weakness at the helm, Mr. Erdogan’s political opponents have been quick to demand an investigation into Mr. Peker’s allegations. They have also drawn parallels to a damaging political scandal in the 1990s that revealed the deep ties between organized crime and the Turkish government.
“Every day a different Pandora’s box is being opened,” Ahmet Davutoglu, a former prime minister who fell out with Mr. Erdogan and set up the opposition Future Party, said in a statement this month.
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“As seen in all longstanding governments that are coming to an end, there is infighting within the government,” Mr. Davutoglu added. “As the end of the tunnel is visible now, everyone is trying to secure the most powerful protection possible before reaching the end.”
Mr. Erdogan had no doubt expected the 2020s to be an era of crowning personal achievements that would raise him to the pantheon of Turkish leaders. A presidential system put in place in 2018 gave him overarching powers that he envisioned deploying to assure his re-election in time for the grand celebration of 100 years of the republic in 2023, making him the longest-serving leader of modern Turkey.
But things are looking increasingly difficult.
Despite Mr. Erdogan’s desire to forge a more assertive foreign policy, he has had to make several climb-downs on the international stage. Notably, after feuding for years, he has been forced to repair relations with Egypt and Saudi Arabia in an effort to save his economy. Just recently, he had to swallow President Biden’s recognition of the mass killings of Armenians more than a century ago as genocide. And in a further sign of his waning influence, Mr. Erdogan’s calls for Muslim solidarity on behalf of the Palestinians in their war with Israel have so far brought little result.
At home, as Turks have been hit by a painful economic downturn, rising prices and a sharp rise in coronavirus infections, Mr. Erdogan is now polling behind major rivals in a prospective presidential race. His extreme right-wing ally in the government, the Nationalist Movement Party, or M.H.P., is hemorrhaging supporters at an even greater rate to the opposition Good Party, which was founded by Meral Aksener, a former M.H.P. lawmaker.

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“Turkey is no longer Erdogan’s country,” Murat Ucer and Atilla Yesilada wrote on Sunday in an article for GlobalSource Partners, which provides analysis on emerging markets. “The administration is also facing a rejuvenated and united opposition, which smells victory, or a wounded predator, limping away to safety, rather than the hunter that it was before.”
Mr. Erdogan, who often bides his time when trouble first arises in his administration but who is also known for acting with ruthless decisiveness, made his first comments on the Peker affair in a speech after a cabinet meeting on Monday.



“Nineteen years ago when we came to rule of the country, one of the most important actions we took was to bring peace everywhere in our country, where criminal groups, terror organizations and ideological struggle were rife,” he said.
“As we saved Turkey from the claws of patronage, coup makers, rapacious gunmen, domestic and foreign political agents who couldn’t tolerate democracy, every kind of gangs, we will foil this dirty script too.”
Mr. Erdogan’s Justice and Development Party, or A.K.P., was seen as a clean break from badly discredited predecessor governments when he took over as prime minister in 2003. Turkey had been rocked by a scandal in 1996 when a senior police official and a nationalist assassin and drug trafficker were killed in a car accident near the town of Susurluk, revealing close ties between the government, right-wing nationalists and organized crime.
The shock in Turkey of what became known as the Susurluk scandal was amplified by the realization that the mafia, far-right militias and the government had been divvying up national resources while acting under the guise of a vaunted nationalist struggle against Kurdish militants.
“The A.K.P. rose to prominence by positioning itself as the antithesis of that world,” said Asli Aydintasbas, a senior fellow with the European Council on Foreign Relations. “Erdogan made a name for himself cleaning up the deep state and organized crime.”
Yet, in the aftermath of the 2016 attempted coup against him, Mr. Erdogan turned for support to the nationalist movement, which came accompanied by its old networks of professional criminals and far-right nationalists.



“It looks like in the post-coup period they have come back,” Ms. Aydintasbas said.



Devlet Bahceli, leader of the M.H.P., one of the right-wing nationalist groups allied with Mr. Erdogan, denied any links to the mafia in comments on Tuesday.
Mr. Peker is not the only one with allegations of dirt against the government. Mr. Erdogan’s political opponents, sensing his growing vulnerability, have sought to expose allegations of corruption or abuse of power at every turn.
But Mr. Peker, with as many as four million viewers tuning in to his rambling, hourlong videos, is by far the most trenchant and damaging.
Among the unproven accusations he has tossed out are the illegal seizure of a marina by a government insider and the subsequent use of it for drug trafficking; the death of a woman who filed a complaint of sexual assault against a well-placed A.K.P. lawmaker; and even crimes that he said he committed himself at the behest of senior officials, such as instigating the assault of a former A.K.P. lawmaker, threatening university academics who signed a peace petition, and aiding Mr. Soylu, the interior minister, in his rivalry against Mr. Albayrak, Mr. Erdogan’s son-in-law.
Many of the allegations were directed against the former interior minister, Mr. Agar, and his son, who have both rejected the claims as baseless. The police have said that the woman who filed the sexual assault case had died in a suicide.
In an interview with the Turkish daily Cumhuriyet, Fikri Saglar, a former lawmaker, said, “We can call this the second Susurluk incident.” Mr. Saglar was a member of the parliamentary committee that investigated the 1990s scandal.
“It may be more serious,” he added. “Susurluk was like the foundations of exposing relations between politicians-mafia-the state, now traces of what this establishment has been doing are revealed.”

Claims From an Organized Crime Boss Rock Turkey’s Government (Published 2021)

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, already hampered by an economic crisis and a surge in coronavirus cases, is now battling allegations of corruption in his ranks.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Sinan]

Sedat Peker just ended the career of Hadi, goodbye ass-liker of AKP, so-called journalist scum.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394721863549526020

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394724407508090890

 

[guest12]

Keeping the corrupt and incompetent mafia clique that ruins the country isn’t making you independent. Being a poor failed state isn’t making you independent.

So yeah... every single sane person would vote for prosperity.

Lucky for us Ataturk was not a sane person like you.God knows what kind of luxurious lifestyle Brits and French would provide to him if he were to choose prosperity(easy life) over independence.

 

[bsruzm]

Apparently Peker is in one of those apartments in Dubai Marina

 

[guest12]

Apparently Peker is in one of those apartments in Dubai Marina

I also heard that rumor but still not proven.If it is so we can rule him out as just another traitor.

 

[Deliorman]

Lucky for us Ataturk was not a sane person like you.God knows what kind of luxurious lifestyle Brits and French would provide to him if he were to choose prosperity(easy life) over independence.

You compare things that are incomparable.
Prosperity of the nation and of the country are much more important than the well being of a certain political/mafia clique running the country. I talk about prosperity of the state while you talk about personal gains.

Ataturk and his Comrades fought for Turkey’s lands, it’s nation and it’s future. After the war was won he fought to bring development and prosperity- art, education, industry, railways, institutions etc. A basis that Turkey had and still has even if not in it’s best shape.

You win your independence by being a prosperous and developed state that has financial and scientific power and not by being a rogue state like Mullah Iran or NoKo which are enemies to absolutely everyone around them... They also claim how independent they are, they build nukes and rockets and weapons etc too but for what when their nations are starving and living in poverty?

 

[Saithan]

The moment politicians like RTE decided that he was above the law, and could refuse to follow the court decisions. The foundation for the current situation was laid.

A return to true rule of law would and could mean we need to implement death penalty and start a thorough cleanup.

I have pretty much stopped following domestic politics, cause I am going to vote for the opposition so whatever RTE does is irrelevant as long as he doesn't plunge our nation into war.

 

[Saithan]

AKP'li başkan ‘gri pasaport’ skandalını gündeme getirenleri suçladı

Malatya'nın AKP'li Yeşilyurt Belediyesi tarafından Almanya'ya gönderilen 45 kişiden sadece iki kişinin geri dönmesi olayı mayıs ayı meclis

www.veryansintv.com

AKP in Malatya is annoyed that the grey passport that was used to escape from Turkey to seek assylum was brought up. (It was CHP that brought it into daylight btw).

 

[Ryder]

Rezalet!
They filled the Party with such clowns...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394553602925019138

This is the same politician who cried about dersim.

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394643181032071169

Once again shows how behind chp is.

 

[Saithan]

Ülkücülerin sembol ismi Şevkat Çetin'den hükümete sert eleştiri

MHP Genel Başkan eski Yardımcısı Şefkat Çetin sosyal medya hesabından dikkat çeken bir paylaşımda bulundu.

www.veryansintv.com

Previous no. 2 in MHP shared a post/tweet criticizing government.

 

[Xenon54]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394643181032071169

Once again shows how behind chp is.

Leftist in Europe also tend to support Palestinian cause, why is it surprising to you when leftists in Turkey do it?

 

[GoatsMilk]

I am amazed how detached from reality most posters in here are.Absolutely NO ONE in Europe looks to Turkey as their protector from Russia. Nor will Russia invade and annex the 3 Baltic countries.

You heard it here first.

Having travelled Europe extensively most Europeans still fear a Turkish invasion more then they do a Russian one.

As for western nonsense, the future is Asia.