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[Siper>MMU]

Hermes series UAVs use such light and compact systems.

https://elbitsystems.com/media/DCoMPASS-UAV.pdf

 

[kimov]

 

[Combat-Master]

Obsessively anti-Turkey Michael Rubin lied again. In his piece for National Interest he says “I warned Obama administration when transferring drones to Turks.” Rubin is ignorant enough that he doesn’t know the US sold no UAVs to Turkey and Turks began producing UAVs because of this.

 

[Ryder]

Obsessively anti-Turkey Michael Rubin lied again. In his piece for National Interest he says “I warned Obama administration when transferring drones to Turks.” Rubin is ignorant enough that he doesn’t know the US sold no UAVs to Turkey and Turks began producing UAVs because of this.
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His a dirty neocon

 

[Bogeyman]

AKSUNGUR UAV begins first field mission

 

[Ghost soldier]

Obsessively anti-Turkey Michael Rubin lied again. In his piece for National Interest he says “I warned Obama administration when transferring drones to Turks.” Rubin is ignorant enough that he doesn’t know the US sold no UAVs to Turkey and Turks began producing UAVs because of this.
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Doesn't taf already operates gnat 750 and mq-1 uav from the us according to Wikipedia ?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Doesn't taf already operates gnat 750 and mq-1 uav from the us according to Wikipedia ?

The Gnats are really old and not very useful. I don't think we have any left in service.
No MQ-1s in service.

Someone please correct that in Wikipedia!

 

[Ryder]

Credits is on the picture

 

[Era_shield]

Currently, we use costly products such as CATS and MX15D on TB2s. These make up 50-60% of the cost of TB2. We can use lower cost systems. It seems like Aselsan Kırlangıç can do the marking and reconnaissance missions of the TB2. Of course, there will be a difference in performance, but it can be a good alternative especially when embargo and high production are required.

KIRLANGIC Electro-Optical Reconnaissance And Surveillance System | ASELSAN

KIRLANGIC Electro-Optical Reconnaissance And Surveillance System

www.aselsan.com.tr

https://www.aselsan.com.tr/KUZGUN_ElectroOptical_Reconnaissance_Surveillance_and_Targeting_System_8374.pdf

Kirlangic is missing the laser target designator. Without it you can't fire MAM-L and other laser guided missiles.

 

[Nutuk]

Rubin was a pro-Turkey jewmerican until the "one minute" episode, later he turned anti-Turkey

I should better say he is not pro or anti Turkey, he is pro-Israel

 

[Yasar_TR]

I still think that for UCAV operations, MILSAR SAR UAV GMTI Radar is the way forward. It will operate with a 30km range be it cloudy, rainy, snowy. It can differentiate autonomously between civilian equipment/people and military. It can target accordingly.

Meteksan Defence MILSAR SAR/GMTI Radar Provides Outstanding Capabilities to Tactical UAVs

MILSAR generate radar images up to 30cm resolution from 27km.

www.defenceturkey.com

 

[Test7]

@aozencerdem

 

[Siper>MMU]

Kirlangic is missing the laser target designator. Without it you can't fire MAM-L and other laser guided missiles.

It has optional laser designator.

Kuzgun is better than Kırlangıç but Kuzgun is still in development.

 

[Siper>MMU]

Sar

I still think that for UCAV operations, MILSAR SAR UAV GMTI Radar is the way forward. It will operate with a 30km range be it cloudy, rainy, snowy. It can differentiate autonomously between civilian equipment/people and military. It can target accordingly.

Meteksan Defence MILSAR SAR/GMTI Radar Provides Outstanding Capabilities to Tactical UAVs

MILSAR generate radar images up to 30cm resolution from 27km.

www.defenceturkey.com

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Sar radar is good for ISR but since it lacks a laser designator, UAV will not be able to use bombs.

 

[Ryder]

Rubin was a pro-Turkey jewmerican until the "one minute" episode, later he turned anti-Turkey

I should better say he is not pro or anti Turkey, he is pro-Israel

Neocons are pro Turkiye when Turkiye is a servant to them when we start looking for our own interests is when they become hostile to you.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Sar

Sar radar is good for ISR but since it lacks a laser designator, UAV will not be able to use bombs.

If there is a will there is a way!
As per the article I shared from Defense Turkey Magazine, Meteksan is working closely with Baykar to incorporate it in to Bayraktar UAV’s. MILSAR is still in development stage. They were considering it for Anka too. The advantages it presents can not be swept under.
We all know in good weather TB2 is king. But as it was clear in Karabagh, when the weather was overcast and cloudy, operations ceased. So a system has to be devised to utilise UAV’s in all weather conditions..
Baykar must have seen some light in the system to consider developing it together with Meteksan for their platforms.

 

[dustdevil]

If there is a will there is a way!
As per the article I shared from Defense Turkey Magazine, Meteksan is working closely with Baykar to incorporate it in to Bayraktar UAV’s. MILSAR is still in development stage. They were considering it for Anka too. The advantages it presents can not be swept under.
We all know in good weather TB2 is king. But as it was clear in Karabagh, when the weather was overcast and cloudy, operations ceased. So a system has to be devised to utilise UAV’s in all weather conditions..
Baykar must have seen some light in the system to consider developing it together with Meteksan for their platforms.

I agree, the only technique is not SAL so we should work on other types of guidance.

Some examples:

- IIR/TV sensor munition with datalink similar to UMTAS + autonomous target detection
- GPS/INS for bigger glide bombs
- beamriding using the radar to guide the munition, or command guidance while tracking the munition
- painting with radar again with the radar, using radar sensor on the munition

All will be expensive than simple SAL mode but it will be wide area survelliance+simultaneous attack capability even in bad weather. If the data is fed to other airborne or ground launchers attacks per unit time will increase dramatically.

 

[Merzifonlu]

I suggest automatized wire guided missile. Like new generation TOW2 missile. Simple and proper.

 

[Anmdt]

I agree, the only technique is not SAL so we should work on other types of guidance.

Some examples:

- IIR/TV sensor munition with datalink similar to UMTAS + autonomous target detection
- GPS/INS for bigger glide bombs
- beamriding using the radar to guide the munition, or command guidance while tracking the munition
- painting with radar again with the radar, using radar sensor on the munition

All will be expensive than simple SAL mode but it will be wide area survelliance+simultaneous attack capability even in bad weather. If the data is fed to other airborne or ground launchers attacks per unit time will increase dramatically.

Artilleries and ground units exists for a reason, UAV detects with SAR payload, artilleries engage with GPS guided bomb. It is a high value target Kasırga, Kaplan or Bora can be launched.
Also these bombs has GPS guidance, for moving targets, or targets requiring surgical operations tracking is more than being sufficient. They can be handled in their destination or via NEB, SOM if the value is high.
Or lastly some kind of MMW guidance can be introduced, or a scaled down Mildar?

 

[Ghost soldier]

Credits is on the picture

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+++ morocco