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Whats so bad about saying his wife is also coming?? They also said Ugur Sahin and not Professor Ugur Sahin.

What does the topic have to do with Arabs???

Her seyi Araplara bagliyoruz.
She is not just his wife,she is a founder and equal partner in the company.
You cant just call her the wife.
 

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Whats so bad about saying his wife is also coming?? They also said Ugur Sahin and not Professor Ugur Sahin.

What does the topic have to do with Arabs???

Her seyi Araplara bagliyoruz.
Imagine you developed/build something with a friend and they announce it like: "Mr.XYZ and his friend (you)"

Would you like that? You equally contributed something but they see you as an side actor. This is rude.
 

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Imagine you developed/build something with a friend and they announce it like: "Mr.XYZ and his friend (you)"

Would you like that? You equally contributed something but they see you as an side actor. This is rude.

Might be rude as you have a point but I dont get why people are including Arabs in this?
 

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Equality is a false god

Erdogans wife belongs to muslim segment that doesn’s shake hands with Men. Abdullah Gül former presidents wife shook hands with men.

So reference to arab culture is sound.

These people are muslims before Turk.
 

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Equality is a false god
Equality of outcome is, not equality of opportunity.

For example, I hope everyone here agrees that women have the right to an education just like men. This is equality of opportunity.

However, not everyone has the brains or work ethic to become a chemical engineer. This is where equality of outcome comes in, which is an artificial attempt to make it so everyone achieves the same by giving those who can't hack it a leg up. That is a false god.
 

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Equality of outcome is, not equality of opportunity.

For example, I hope everyone here agrees that women have the right to an education just like men. This is equality of opportunity.

However, not everyone has the brains or work ethic to become a chemical engineer. This is where equality of outcome comes in, which is an artificial attempt to make it so everyone achieves the same by giving those who can't hack it a leg up. That is a false god.
 

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Erdogans wife belongs to muslim segment that doesn’s shake hands with Men. Abdullah Gül former presidents wife shook hands with men.

So reference to arab culture is sound.

These people are muslims before Turk.

Nah mate Turks nowadays equate everything with Arabs.

They became an easy scapegoat to blame for everything. Either its racism or an inferiority complex.

Since I said this im waiting for people to call me an Arab lover when I made numerous posts critising Arabs the difference is I dont blame them for everything neither obess over them since they are our rivals in the region for centuries.

Eventhough we share the same religion and exchanged culture and mixed with each other I keep it mutual same for the Kurds eventhough I said some racist stuff. I dont see Arabs, Kurds or whatever races or ethnic groups as inferior. I dont believe in racial supremacy or a superior culture.

Its only geopolitics and the will to survive. I think history plays a important role in shaping our worldviews and seeing other people as hostile. I might see Arabs as hostile just dont see them as inferior. Racial supremacy is human arrogance at its best.
 
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Equality of outcome is, not equality of opportunity.

For example, I hope everyone here agrees that women have the right to an education just like men. This is equality of opportunity.

However, not everyone has the brains or work ethic to become a chemical engineer. This is where equality of outcome comes in, which is an artificial attempt to make it so everyone achieves the same by giving those who can't hack it a leg up. That is a false god.

I dont disagree in women getting an education and a career.

But when times they have to get married and have children. So this comes first while the man has to provide for both wife and the children.

Too bad overtime us Men have become stingy dheads. Thats not just the factor nowadays a husband working cant sustain a family which leads to women working.

Even if both are working a lot of them still struggle. Sad times a good childhood comes with a Mother. No point in having one when your mother works 24/7.
 

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I dont disagree in women getting an education and a career.

But when times they have to get married and have children. So this comes first while the man has to provide for both wife and the children.

Too bad overtime us Men have become stingy dheads. Thats not just the factor nowadays a husband working cant sustain a family which leads to women working.

Even if both are working a lot of them still struggle. Sad times a good childhood comes with a Mother. No point in having one when your mother works 24/7.

Wow... So a woman’s place is at home. Make sure to tell RTE to more than double up the salaries then. Preferably in USD or Euro.
 

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Wow... So a woman’s place is at home. Make sure to tell RTE to more than double up the salaries then. Preferably in USD or Euro.
I do not think that he meant that, just that the mother should have enough time to raise kids with enough care and attention.
Generally speaking i do not see how it is good thing that women pursue carreir only to pay other women to raise her children. It is complex social matter, there are more then enough examples from west and east with pro and contra to make proper laws, which should provide middle path that protects women rights and still maintain her women dignity as the one pole of the family.
 

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Wow... So a woman’s place is at home. Make sure to tell RTE to more than double up the salaries then. Preferably in USD or Euro.

Yeah it is. Is that bad?? Family is the backbone of life take shit away your country collapses.

Fertility rates are falling in Turkey while Arabs and Kurds have high fertility rates. In the long term we are going to get replaced if this shits not fixed.

Im 28 years old I regret not getting married early and having children. I really wasted my life when you look back.

In the past I laughed at the Europeans and Japanese for having low fertility rates now the same is going to happen to us. In Australia its already bad.

Time flies for women its much more worse. A man stays fertile until he dies while a women reaches a certain age and its over she cant have children.

People dont realise why Japan and South Korea have a demographic crisis as they threw away the nuclear family.
 

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I do not think that he meant that, just that the mother should have enough time to raise kids with enough care and attention.
Generally speaking i do not see how it is good thing that women pursue carreir only to pay other women to raise her children. It is complex social matter, there are more then enough examples from west and east with pro and contra to make proper laws, which should provide middle path that protects women rights and still maintain her women dignity as the one pole of the family.

Nuclear family is in decline. In other words the future is not bright.

We are screwed worldwide.
 

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Nuclear family is in decline. In other words the future is not bright.

We are screwed worldwide.
I know, prevailing materialism and hedonism does not correspond with healthy natalism. West is finished both philosofically and in realistic sence of that matter
Worldwide population still grow but problem is that it grows in countries with numerous issues, it is time ticking bomb.
 

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I know, prevailing materialism and hedonism does not correspond with healthy natalism.
Worldwide population still grow but problem is that it grows in countries with numerous issues, it is time ticking bomb.

Poor countries have a population boom while rich ones are in decline.
 

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I know, prevailing materialism and hedonism does not correspond with healthy natalism. West is finished both philosofically and in realistic sence of that matter
Worldwide population still grow but problem is that it grows in countries with numerous issues, it is time ticking bomb.

One the aspects of the modern world which I critique. How its made harder for people to have a family.

Central Asia has healthy fertility rates. Central Asian Turks take family seriously.

I know Turkeys economy is shit which makes having a family harder I understand the situation dont think im ignorant abput this. If this shits not fixed you are going to lose in the long term.

Japan and South Korea are the best example of a demographic time bomb. Imagine a world without them?? This shit can happen.

By the way people who support lbgt and gay marriage are also the ones who contribute to the death of a nation. Look it up. Im not making this shit up.
 
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