Turkish FAC-FIC Designs

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Not yet but soon we will see it.


We shouldn't expect Air defence frigate role from FACs . Both RAM and FL3000N are best defense systems against cruise missiles since they aren't launched vertically.
Moreover FAC's mere threat is cruise missiles.

UAVs , Fighters and other threats which fly at higher altitudes are the business of air defense frigates and land based long range SAMs.


Remember our ADA-class has just RAM.

Apaches equippes with NLOS missiles,
Drones equipped with guided precision bombs.
The war has changed remarkably since then, i am sure we will see some AAD capability on Ada class earlier than MLU.

 

[Turko]

Apaches equippes with NLOS missiles,
Drones equipped with guided precision bombs.
The war has changed remarkably since then, i am sure we will see some AAD capability on Ada class earlier than MLU.

For ADA class, EDAS loaded with G40s

I was wondering if RIM-116 could engage Hellfires, NLoS and MAM-L?

 

[Anmdt]

For ADA class, EDAS loaded with G40s

I was wondering if RIM-116 could engage Hellfires, NLoS and MAM-L?

Hellfire/NLOS morelikely because they have got a strong IR signature,
MAM-L is literally zero, it is business of gun-based or radar guided systems. But because of the SAL guidance, the ships will be aware of the designating platform and can shoot it down instead (unless there is an USV around designating the target), if not with Radar (In case of being suppressed with EW or stealthy form), the UAV can be tracked with IRST/EO or Laser warning system.
A gliding type munition with stand-off capabillity can provide an advantage to pass through missile-based CIWS.

 

[Turko]

Hellfire/NLOS morelikely because they have got a strong IR signature,
MAM-L is literally zero, it is business of gun-based or radar guided systems. But because of the SAL guidance, the ships will be aware of the designating platform and can shoot it down instead (unless there is an USV around designating the target), if not with Radar (In case of being suppressed with EW or stealthy form), the UAV can be tracked with IRST/EO or Laser warning system.
A gliding type munition with stand-off capabillity can provide an advantage to pass through missile-based CIWS.

Then İn order to prevent MAM-L attacks little warships need IIR missiles that can reach 7-8 km altitude where Bayraktar type UAVs fly. 15km range will be enough.
All requirements are match by Hisar A+ and Bozdoğan)
I would prefer horizontal launcher with 4 Bozdoğans rather than HisarA+ VLS since horizontal launcher have lower minumum range.(Hisar A+ minumum range must be 4 km) minumum range is very important against sea skimming cruise missiles.

 

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I hope there is enough space on Ada-class to put at least some VLS without major internal reconstruction.

 

[Turko]

Is there any possibility that a future FAC might carry Gökdeniz as a main gun?

I think tungsten air defence rounds can probably chew through some naval targets as well. Considering how unarmored modern warships are..

It was said that Gökdeniz is too bulky so they are designing compact 20 mm CIWS. In my humble opinion FACs will have Turkish RAM.

 

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It was said that Gökdeniz is too bulky so they are designing compact 20 mm CIWS. In my humble opinion FACs will have Turkish RAM.

FAC is not the old FAC-55 we have seen. Maybe they will reveal the latest form in IDEF.

 

[Spook]

Is there any possibility that a future FAC might carry Gökdeniz as a main gun?

I think tungsten air defence rounds can probably chew through some naval targets as well. Considering how unarmored modern warships are..

MKE nationalizing standardized TWIN 40l70 Compact gun for patrol boats. Gokdeniz most attractive capability is ATOM airburst munition with ammo switch capability. MKE also produces high explosive incendiary ammo. If Tungsten 35mm is developed (ammo not pellets) it could be used for small armored targets much better at longer ranges etc. We could definitely experiment with it.