TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

mTT said:

I think the AKBABA project is canceled.

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Why?

BaburKhan said:

TÜBİTAK Finishes AKBABA Missile’s Antenna Layout Analysis | TURDEF

ROKETSAN’s AKBABA anti-radiation missile’s second phase antenna layout analysis was completed according to the 2023 Annual Report of TÜBİTAK.

turdef.com

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mTT said:

I think the AKBABA project is canceled.

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No, on the contrary, Akbaba is moving to LRIP.

Akbaba missile is a classified development, until someone decides to use it for political means. But it has all the wholemarks that it is still progressing.
According to technical information coming out of Roketsan, it is powered by a solid fuelled ramjet engine.
Although no specifics have been released, it is logical to assume that it is going to be similar to the meteor missile.
Since it is an anti radiation missile and has to seek for radiation sources; Hence may have to loiter whilst searching (even though it hasn’t been mentioned that it will) , it may have to have a throttle controlled propulsion.
So it will have to have a booster stage to bring the ramjet in to operation, whose solid fuel may have to be stored in the combustion chamber. Once this is depleted, the solid fuel for the ramjet propulsion that is stuck on to the inner periphery of the combustion chamber is peeled off in layers as and when needed giving controlled throttle and variable speed capability.
This is a very special technology. If Roketsan has managed to apply it, then they need to be highly commended.

Could the Kaan carry a missile similar to ASM-3 inside weapons bays?

Weapons bay of Kaan is not like F-22 or F-35, more like SU-57 with the weapon bays between the engines. Allowing for longer length missiles/bombs.

Could it carry a 6 metre ramjet missile in stealth configuration?

Hannibal said:

Could the Kaan carry a missile similar to ASM-3 inside weapons bays?

Weapons bay of Kaan is not like F-22 or F-35, more like SU-57 with the weapon bays between the engines. Allowing for longer length missiles/bombs.

Could it carry a 6 metre ramjet missile in stealth configuration?

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In order to inflict enough damage to a ship a missile needs to be :
1. able to carry adequate explosives and/or
2. have plenty of kinetic energy during impact.
The ASM-3 missile is approximately 1000kg in weight. So it should have enough explosive on board to sink a ship.
At nearly 3 mach speed on impact, it possesses enough kinetic energy to rip through any ship’s hull.
It has a diameter of 35cm and a length of 6 meters.

We can just about fit SOM-J in to the IWB of KAAN. SOM-J is 3.9 meters in length and 540kg in weight.

The measurements related to KAAN and its internal bays are classified information. We can only make educated guesses. But what we know tells us that it is not possible to carry such a large missile in IWBs of KAAN.

ps SU57 IWB length is 4.4 metres

Looks like they are testing for a minimum drop test...

Look to the turn what it can do...

Aselflir500 is being used...