- Messages
- 2,729
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
AFAIK even most of frigate warships are not combat operational at 5 seastate. Just survive mode.
@Anmdt
Aircraft Carrier Flight Operations – Up to What Sea State?
Modern nuclear-powered aircraft carriers (e.g., Nimitz-class, Ford-class – USA):
Typically capable of conducting flight operations up to Sea State 5 (about 4 meters wave height).
At Sea State 6 or higher, flight operations are usually suspended or highly restricted, due to:
Increased ship movement (roll and pitch), making takeoff and landing dangerous.
Difficulty in maintaining optimal wind alignment for launch and recovery.
Lighter or STOBAR-type carriers (Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery – e.g., Russia’s Admiral Kuznetsov):
Usually effective up to Sea State 4.
At higher sea states, deck motion becomes too severe for safe aircraft operations.
---
In higher sea states, it becomes difficult to maintain a steady position.
The flight deck can pitch and roll dangerously, making both launch and recovery operations risky.
Considering flight deck structure of TCG Anadolu, 5SS is challenge.
@Anmdt
Aircraft Carrier Flight Operations – Up to What Sea State?Modern nuclear-powered aircraft carriers (e.g., Nimitz-class, Ford-class – USA):
Typically capable of conducting flight operations up to Sea State 5 (about 4 meters wave height).
At Sea State 6 or higher, flight operations are usually suspended or highly restricted, due to:
Increased ship movement (roll and pitch), making takeoff and landing dangerous.
Difficulty in maintaining optimal wind alignment for launch and recovery.
Lighter or STOBAR-type carriers (Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery – e.g., Russia’s Admiral Kuznetsov):
Usually effective up to Sea State 4.
At higher sea states, deck motion becomes too severe for safe aircraft operations.
---
In higher sea states, it becomes difficult to maintain a steady position.
The flight deck can pitch and roll dangerously, making both launch and recovery operations risky.
Considering flight deck structure of TCG Anadolu, 5SS is challenge.
Last edited:
- Messages
- 3,517
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
Sea State conditions are assessed by an experienced and trained marine observer via actually measuring and by using instruments like electronic weather buoys to measure wave height and wave radar or remote sensing satellites that can assess wave height as well as degree of spray which constitutes part of the measurement process. (Not by catching a glimpse of a bit of water in a video)
Carrier operational limit is Sea State 5. But this is for a large and heavier carrier. Larger, heavier carriers generally experience less motion in rough seas, allowing for more consistent flight operations and reduced operational limitations. Smaller ships, on the other hand, are more susceptible to the effects of sea state, leading to more frequent disruptions in their ability to launch and recover aircraft
Sea state is characterised by wave height, wave period, and few other factors like wind speed which impacts a ship's motion in all three dimensions. Sea State is measured by taking all these factors in to consideration.
A 27000 ton LHD and a 100000ton super carrier will have very different sea state tolerances if they are both used for same type of carrier operations. (Also it has to be remembered that one is essentially designed to be an Amphibious Assault Vessel, where as the Carrier’s design is such that it is engineered for specifically to withstand rough seas. It has big electronically controlled gyroscopes and ballast tanks that are no match for those used in smaller ships. )
Carrier operational limit is Sea State 5. But this is for a large and heavier carrier. Larger, heavier carriers generally experience less motion in rough seas, allowing for more consistent flight operations and reduced operational limitations. Smaller ships, on the other hand, are more susceptible to the effects of sea state, leading to more frequent disruptions in their ability to launch and recover aircraft
Sea state is characterised by wave height, wave period, and few other factors like wind speed which impacts a ship's motion in all three dimensions. Sea State is measured by taking all these factors in to consideration.
A 27000 ton LHD and a 100000ton super carrier will have very different sea state tolerances if they are both used for same type of carrier operations. (Also it has to be remembered that one is essentially designed to be an Amphibious Assault Vessel, where as the Carrier’s design is such that it is engineered for specifically to withstand rough seas. It has big electronically controlled gyroscopes and ballast tanks that are no match for those used in smaller ships. )
- Messages
- 3,517
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
First of all you can not tell me that I am disrespecting any member. I am not.
I don’t need to agree with what you write. Especially when it is illogical and petty.
Quote
Sea state conditions for a ship can be determined through a combination of visual observations by experienced personnel, instrumental measurements using weather buoys and wave radar, and remote sensing satellites.
Unquote.
Have you done any of that to come to a conclusion of sea state 4?
Please read below article. Especially this paragraph:
quote
How to determine the sea state?
The simplest way is through visual observation by experienced seafarers.In addition, specialized observation ships carry out sea state observations, including water temperature, salinity, chemical composition, marine pollutants, marine life, ocean currents, and other parameters from the surface to the deep layers.
Nowadays, instruments such as meteorological buoys, wave radars, or remote sensing satellites can be used to assess sea state. For example, modern autonomous underwater vehicles (AUVs) can make accurate measurements and sea state forecasts in complex ocean environments.
It is worth mentioning that sea state can be quickly judged based on the actual ocean conditions, but we cannot quickly determine the wind and wave conditions on the sea surface according to the Beaufort wind scale. Wind scale cannot fully represent the sea state, and in windy conditions, this state may take several hours to develop.
unquote
Understanding Sea State: A Comprehensive Guide - OUCO
In this comprehensive guide, we will introduce you to the basics of sea states, including how they are measured and what factors can affect them.
ouco-industry.com
- Messages
- 3,186
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
Looks like the Anka-3 PT-2 crash landed during Anatolian Eagle 25. Looks mostly intact.
- Messages
- 904
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
Shit, probably sets back testing phase somewhat. It's oft repeated that flying these flying wing configurations is hard, so probably bound to happen for a firm doing it for the first time. Hopefully it's not damaged too much (doesn't look like it).
- Messages
- 3,186
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
I don't like speculation, we have no idea what happened. Looks like a controlled landing without power, maybe engine gave out. We'll have some idea of what to expect by watching future flight testing. Official explanations will be useless as usual.
Is the wing on the right side broken?
Does this mean there will be a delay in the project?
Also, that is the second one, right?
Strong AI
Experienced member
- Messages
- 1,822
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
Shh, it needs some rest. (video)
Trafik Konya | Konya Haber on Instagram: "Konya’da Anka-3 İHA gerçekleştirilen test uçuşu esnasında kontrollü uçuşla yere yaklaşım yaptı. Teknik ekipler, olayın tüm yönleriyle değerlendirilmesi için saha çalışmalarını başlatmış, olayın sebeplerine
1,486 likes, 61 comments - trafikkonya on June 25, 2025: "Konya’da Anka-3 İHA gerçekleştirilen test uçuşu esnasında kontrollü uçuşla yere yaklaşım yaptı. Teknik ekipler, olayın tüm yönleriyle değerlendirilmesi için saha çalışmalarını başlatmış, olayın sebeplerine ilişkin incelemeler titizlikle...
www.instagram.com
Last edited:
- Messages
- 3,186
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
Looks almost AI, uncanny. Must be quite the spectacle for watchers.Shh, it needs some rest.
Trafik Konya | Konya Haber on Instagram: "Konya’da Anka-3 İHA gerçekleştirilen test uçuşu esnasında kontrollü uçuşla yere yaklaşım yaptı. Teknik ekipler, olayın tüm yönleriyle değerlendirilmesi için saha çalışmalarını başlatmış, olayın sebeplerine
1,486 likes, 61 comments - trafikkonya on June 25, 2025: "Konya’da Anka-3 İHA gerçekleştirilen test uçuşu esnasında kontrollü uçuşla yere yaklaşım yaptı. Teknik ekipler, olayın tüm yönleriyle değerlendirilmesi için saha çalışmalarını başlatmış, olayın sebeplerine ilişkin incelemeler titizlikle...
I think it's PT-2 but that gray tone could also be from the dust on it and maybe it's PT-1?
Regardless, nothing to cry about, it's a prototype for a reason. Lots of lessons to be learned from the mishap for the future.
Strong AI
Experienced member
- Messages
- 1,822
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
The thing is, it could have just crashed. But they/it managed to do an emergency landing without bursting into flames. That's a plus.
I cannot tell if it is its weapons bay that is open or the landing gear. Can someone tell the difference?
Angry Turk !!!
Contributor
- Messages
- 567
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
I'd keep an eye on the people that immediately show those pictures to the open. I know it's the Anatolian Eagle but still. Maybe some skulls need to be cracked to be fair.
Strong AI
Experienced member
- Messages
- 1,822
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
It landed next to a public road, what do you mean? (look at the picture on the right, it is visible between the last trees there)
- Messages
- 5,604
- Solutions
- 2
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
This is significant wave height we are speaking, most military ships have survivability limit at sea state 7. Beyond sea state 5 they only care about surviving it out. (Unless it is a whooping 100K tonnes carrier, or a submarine). Above sea state 3 requires inhumane piloting skills at helicopter operations.
- Messages
- 5,604
- Solutions
- 2
- Reactions
- Nation of residence
-
- Nation of origin
-
Lost the engine, autopiloted, landed smoothly. Kudos to engineers, a flying lost the engine but not flight stability.
It is the engine, again.
