TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[boredaf]

Can someone give me an opinion, why Vestel/Lentatek isn't "going big" into the turkish UAV/UCAV market like other competitors like TAI and Baykar? I mean, they have an established plattform to work on.

Because they simply don't have the capabilities to do so and their platform is nothing special, or that proven.

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948705736973795555

I would much rather see Umtas or something similar on that

 

[boredaf]

4 EREN

Fly it under radar height, launch 4 Eren's at the radar and get back. I truly love the idea.

 

[Zafer]

TAI VTOL drone looks so nice, imo the best looking drone. I can't wait for the production model of ANKA-3.
Please use english subtitle.

There are now several small VTOL makes of this type in the market. Looks like the competition will start to win a tender. Baykar spent a lot of time improving their DİHA. I can safely say that Baykar should be ahead in this game.

 

[Zafer]

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Bayraktar KALKAN VTOL

The Bayraktar KALKAN VTOL is a highly versatile platform specifically designed for intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) missions. It i

baykartech.com

They made many prototypes and many tests, maturation of the platforms is paramount otherwise many companies can produce some specks. Baykar DİHA looks more streamlined, you can find better images of it.

 

[boredaf]

They made many prototypes and many tests, maturation of the platforms is paramount otherwise many companies can produce some specks. Baykar DİHA looks more streamlined, you can find better images of it.

Fanboys gonna fanboy.

 

[Zafer]

Fanboys gonna fanboy.

Hater gonna hate.

Some forum members had gotten sick of hearing test news, which means hard work, that pays off.

 

[boredaf]

Hater gonna hate.

Some members had gotten sick of hearing test news, which means hard work, that pays off.

Not a hater at all, you're simply refusing the facts in front of your face.

 

[Zafer]

Not a hater at all, you're simply refusing the facts in front of your face.

What fact is that? The fact that Baykar model is streamlined and TAI one is like an afterthought. Baykar even got an engine made for its product.

 

[Huelague]

Why are we not developing tiltrotor UAVs?

 

[Boykaz]

The new KIZILELMA prototype is being prepared to launch ammunition from its internal station, designed for radar invisibility. The photo shows the internal station hatches activated.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1950941310111588379

 

[Agha Sher]

Is that a different prototype than this one?

After comparing the pictures, it seems to be a different KE under assembly. The KE in Boykaz post is most likely this one (in the background) from your picture. (I deduced that by looking at the angles and windows in the background)

The wingtip of the KE in the front from your post can be seen on Boykaz's post as well.

 

[Aqerdf]

Really ? No one noticed this news ?

IDEF 2025 - Turkish Aerospace Industries gets new contracts and advances development programmes - EDR Magazine

The Hürjet training aircraft, the T625 Gökbey, and the T925 helicopters dominated the Turkish Aerospace Industries stand at IDEF 2025.

www.edrmagazine.eu

(For the time being TUSAŞ has already started working on the Anka IV project, which EDR On-Line was told will have “a B-2 size.”)

 

[Zafer]

Really ? No one noticed this news ?

IDEF 2025 - Turkish Aerospace Industries gets new contracts and advances development programmes - EDR Magazine

The Hürjet training aircraft, the T625 Gökbey, and the T925 helicopters dominated the Turkish Aerospace Industries stand at IDEF 2025.

www.edrmagazine.eu

(For the time being TUSAŞ has already started working on the Anka IV project, which EDR On-Line was told will have “a B-2 size.”)

The only engine that should power such a plane would be a non-afterburner Kaan engine. By comparison with the B-21 Raider we can safely say a twin engine plane should be able to carry 7 tons of weapons load inside the weapons bay given a similar flight range is maintained. However in shorter ranges like half the range the weapons load can be around 10 tons all in stealth configuration. It is a no brainer that when you have the engine you can make this plane before long. A non afterburner Kaan engine can very well be made before the proper Kaan engine. So another project to look forward to before Kaan comes online.

 

[No Name]

Does Turkey even need such a Drone?

Before GAZAP and HAYALET, I would have been excited for it, but since those two bombs can do the same thing as a MOAB and MOP but be used by fighters, is there a purpose for an Anka 4 strategic bomber?

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948705736973795555

Oh this is awesome. I posted a long time ago about my personal VTOL jet-powered UCAV concept which launches suicide drones.

The great thing about this is you don't risk your own troops, send this bad boy in and let it launch its little minions. Great to see TSK is keen on such a concept.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Does Turkey even need such a Drone?

Before GAZAP and HAYALET, I would have been excited for it, but since those two bombs can do the same thing as a MOAB and MOP but be used by fighters, is there a purpose for an Anka 4 strategic bomber?

You will have to send your manned jets to drop the NEB class bombs literally on top of the target to have the right effect. Stand off bombing is not an option. Also there is a lot of HKG class precision bombs in our inventory. To fire these and Gazap on to ground targets you need to get within enemy HSS ranges. A stealth deep strike bomber, especially an unmanned one, is the ideal solution.

 

[No Name]

You will have to send your manned jets to drop the NEB class bombs literally on top of the target to have the right effect. Stand off bombing is not an option. Also there is a lot of HKG class precision bombs in our inventory. To fire these and Gazap on to ground targets you need to get within enemy HSS ranges. A stealth deep strike bomber, especially an unmanned one, is the ideal solution.

I think that makes sense.

Will any variants of the Anka 4 also serve as a tanker or Missile boat? Or will the bomber design limit its potential uses?

 

[Zafer]

A side note: Such a plane can very well be used to launch low earth orbit space payload. Like 100-500 kg payloads can be launched with such a plane. This is feasible because you don't need range with it and all the carrying capacity can go to the rocket that will carry the payload. See the foreign project in the same category.

https://www.science.org/content/article/rocket-launching-drone-ready-take-satellites-orbit
https://www.defenceturk.net/uydu-firlatici-otonom-hava-araci-ravn-x

 

[Anmdt]

My guess is KE will take off from TCG Anadolu (only take off, no landing). What are your guesses?

First, reminding that they are in the brotherly homeland, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Bayraktar said the following:

"Where will we be on September 17–21? We're expecting everyone in Istanbul. But before that, we have another surprise. Where will we be on August 30? At TEKNOFEST Blue Homeland, at the Istanbul Shipyard, God willing, we will witness our youth competing with the heroes of the Blue Homeland, the descendants of Barbaros Hayrettin, and with their creations that will leave a mark on high technology and ensure our freedom and independence in the Blue Homeland. The TCG Anadolu will be there. Our Kızılelma will be on top of the TCG Anadolu. Alongside it, the Bayraktar TB3 will be there. Our national frigates will be present as well. And we’ll even have a big surprise. Likewise, we’re expecting all of Yalova at TEKNOFEST Blue Homeland."

Selçuk Bayraktar: TEKNOFEST kuşağıyla ülkemiz tam bağımsız olma yolunda bir adım daha öteye gidecek

TEKNOFEST Yönetim Kurulu Başkanı Bayraktar, "TEKNOFEST kuşağının dünyaya damgasını vuracak yüksek teknoloji işlere imza atmasıyla ve milletimizi desteğiyle ülkemiz tam bağımsız ve müreffeh olma yolunda bir adım daha öteye gidecek." dedi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

@AlterUnd knows - or has an idea about this surprise (i guess). But i am not sure if he would like to leak that, and as far as i am told it is related to Naval Programs.